"Tumbleweed" wrote in message
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"The Artist" wrote in message
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertain...ic/3416437.stm

And then they'll be complaining later that illegal downloads have
increased.
If you had any moral qualms about downloading, this action should remove
them.

An intriguing point of view - can you explain why? I'd quite like a Porsche
Boxster, but don't want to pay £31,450 for it - after all, there can't be
more than a couple of grand's worth of materials in it - would it be OK to
steal one of those, too?

I'm not saying that the BPI approach is right, but CDs are luxury goods, and
so, presumably, there is an least an element of "opportunity pricing." They
can't really have a "value for money" as you're buying something intangible
(although I think they're cheap compared with concerts, trips to the cinema,
days out, etc.).

Surely the approach of most right-thinking people who don't want to pay for
luxury goods would be to go without, rather than to steal?

Andrew

On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 23:31:50 -0000
"Andrew Virnuls" wrote:

(although I think they're cheap compared with concerts, trips to the
cinema, days out, etc.).

In northwich I could go to the cinema *ten* times for the same as it
costs me for a third-rate ****ty mastered DVD.

(most titles hit the market at about 29.99 and it costs 3.00 to get into
my local cinema.)

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"Ian Molton" wrote in message
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On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 23:31:50 -0000
"Andrew Virnuls" wrote:

(although I think they're cheap compared with concerts, trips to the
cinema, days out, etc.).

In northwich I could go to the cinema *ten* times for the same as it
costs me for a third-rate ****ty mastered DVD.

(most titles hit the market at about 29.99 and it costs 3.00 to get into
my local cinema.)

But for your £3 you're only buying the right to see the film once, whereas
with the DVD you're buying the right to watch it as many times as you like.
Plus, since I bought my DVD player and surround-sound system, I'm always
disappointed by the quality of the picture and the sound when I go the
cinema!

Andrew

On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:27:50 -0000
"Andrew Virnuls" wrote:

In northwich I could go to the cinema *ten* times for the same as it
costs me for a third-rate ****ty mastered DVD.

(most titles hit the market at about 29.99 and it costs 3.00 to get into
my local cinema.)

But for your _3 you're only buying the right to see the film once, whereas
with the DVD you're buying the right to watch it as many times as you like.

On a HUUUGE screen with a good soundsystem (good != hifi in this case bnut nontheless...)

and for my _30 I could see it 10 times, not once.

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On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 23:54:41 +0000, Ian Molton wrote:

On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 23:31:50 -0000
"Andrew Virnuls" wrote:

(although I think they're cheap compared with concerts, trips to the
cinema, days out, etc.).

In northwich I could go to the cinema *ten* times for the same as it
costs me for a third-rate ****ty mastered DVD.

Whereas at the cinema you get one shot to see a ****ty
fifth-generation print, and listen to lots of yapping, rustling and
mobile phones................

(most titles hit the market at about 29.99 and it costs 3.00 to get into
my local cinema.)

You're buying your DVDs at the wrong shop!
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On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 08:29:53 +0000 (UTC)
(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote:

(most titles hit the market at about 29.99 and it costs 3.00 to get into
my local cinema.)

You're buying your DVDs at the wrong shop!

I wont buy em at that price.

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"Andrew Virnuls" wrote in message
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"Tumbleweed" wrote in message
.. .
"The Artist" wrote in message
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertain...ic/3416437.stm

And then they'll be complaining later that illegal downloads have
increased.
If you had any moral qualms about downloading, this action should remove
them.

An intriguing point of view - can you explain why? I'd quite like a
Porsche
Boxster, but don't want to pay £31,450 for it - after all, there can't be
more than a couple of grand's worth of materials in it - would it be OK to
steal one of those, too?

Crap analogy, but lets run with it... its the equivalent of Porche
physically preventing me buying a Boxter from (say) Hong Kong where they are
(say) half the price, even though they can apparently sell at a profit in
Hong Kong and their dealer in Hong Kong is very happy to sell me one.

Also, lets be quite clear, I am *not* stealing their product by downloading
it, because I was going to *buy it* from Hong Kong, and Hell Will Freeze
Over before I buy it in the UK, so they have lost nothing at all, they dont
get a sale in the UK to me in either case.


I'm not saying that the BPI approach is right, but CDs are luxury goods,
and
so, presumably, there is an least an element of "opportunity pricing."
They
can't really have a "value for money" as you're buying something
intangible
(although I think they're cheap compared with concerts, trips to the
cinema,
days out, etc.).


I really dont care. I want to take advantage of global pricing, just as
these companies do themselves when it comes to sourcing supplies and jobs.
All I ask is the same global supply opportunities the companies have. Thats
all I expect, a fair playing field.


Surely the approach of most right-thinking people who don't want to pay
for
luxury goods would be to go without, rather than to steal?

Companies clamour for global trade. And then when they get it, try and stop
it for their consumers!! They don't have any qualms about shutting down jobs
in this country in order to ship them somewhere cheaper, yet when I try and
buy from one of those cheaper places, they want to stop me. Its nothing
short of outrageous.

Surely the approach of most right-thinking people would be that if the
company can manufacture its products wherever it wants, I can buy them
wherever I want?

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newsgroups)

So how much did the BPI force CDWow have to raise their prices by? They seem
quite cheap to me.

Kind Regards,
Shane Cook.

On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:12:16 -0000
"Tumbleweed" wrote:


Companies clamour for global trade. And then when they get it, try and stop
it for their consumers!! They don't have any qualms about shutting down jobs
in this country in order to ship them somewhere cheaper, yet when I try and
buy from one of those cheaper places, they want to stop me. Its nothing
short of outrageous.

Good point, well made.

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