On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 21:44:04 +0000, Ian Molton wrote:

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 17:24:41 +0000 (UTC)
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

I like to keep the little people amused. I don't suppose you ride a
Triumph motorbike by any chance?

Nope. Werent they the ones that made aluminium castings so shoddy that
oil actually seeped THROUGH them ?

Yep, and I was so tempted when one lexicographically challenged audio
poster suggested that in digital audio , *Meriden* would probably lead
the world............. :-)

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On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 21:42:55 +0000, Ian Molton wrote:

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 17:24:41 +0000 (UTC)
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

I also have a massive American style LG fridge/
freezer, which is every bit as good as an Amana, at half the price.

If it ever breaks, let me know how the customer service is ;-)

Will do, but I suspect that it's MTBF exceeds mine.............
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On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 18:53:29 +0000, Kurt Hamster
wrote:

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 17:24:42 +0000 (UTC), Stewart Pinkerton used
to say...

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 11:03:23 +0000, Glenn Booth
wrote:

Hi,

In message , Stewart
Pinkerton writes
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 18:19:46 +0000, Kurt Hamster
wrote:

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 17:46:34 +0000 (UTC), Stewart Pinkerton used
to say...

I take it you mean avoid Linux at all costs? Good advice..........

Now why would that be good advice?

Because it's used exclusively by sad lefty geeks.................

Oy! I resemble that remark! I've got a Linux box here, and I only
fit two of those criteria :-)

Admittedly, it only runs a firewall, NAT and DHCP services, it has no
monitor, no keyboard and no mouse, and I haven't actually touched it for
about two years, but I do have one running.

Admittedly, it's stable.......................

So is Windows if you don't actually do anything with it.

LOL! Kool, and I don't really give a sh1t tonight, as I'm off to India
in the morning. Peace and luurve, dudes, and good Kharma.....
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On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 21:41:58 +0000, Ian Molton wrote:

My monitor is an Iiyama Vision master Pro 400 (the previous was a VMpro 17 - I wish the later numbers meant what the earlier ones did!)

When I got my 17, I sent it back (poor convergence).

I sent the replacement back because the red gun was loose

I sent *its* replacement back because it wasnt sharp enough.

The fourth one... the fourth one... stayed up! (and didnt burn down or fall into the swamp). I think its 7 years old now, and when I had it (2 years of its life) it was on 24/7/365. My dad uses it now, and it still looks as good as the day I bought it (he uses it far less, though).

My 400 is the third I owned. (I sent the first two back for similar reasons to the original 17's).

Its been running for 5 years now, almost entirely 24/7/365 (displaying a picture the whole time - I never power it down as it takes too long for the picture to 'lock' in place from cold (I adjust mine to use every last phosphor smudge on the screen). And its only now starting to go downhill (not reliability, but the picture tube is gradually fading - its contrast is worsening, and it actually has burn-in of the task bar! not a common thing to see in a modern unit - gives some idea of the punishment it gets!)

I'd buy another Iiyama unit in a flash, partly because (once I do the QC guys job for him) they seem to be solid units, but mostly because the customer service has be *ABSOLUTELY* stunning - they did not argue (nor should they have) even once - and THEY paid all the postage!

If I could afford one of their 1600x1200 TFTs I'd have one *in a flash*.

Well now, there y'go. I had a 21" Visionmaster for a couple of years,
then it went a bit fuzzy, then it crashed. Now I have a 19" Sony E400,
which gives me a crisp 1600x1200 at 80Hz, so I'm a happy bunny. Agreed
that a distortion-free 22" Tufty would be nice..............
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"Ian Molton" wrote in message
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On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 16:58:20 -0000
"Keith G" wrote:

you are missing my point - you are
allowing past experience to prejudice your view of today's offerings
from a
substantial company like it is incapable of correcting mistakes or
improving
its products.

No, you point isnt lost on me, honest.

My monitor is an Iiyama Vision master Pro 400 (the previous was a VMpro
17 - I wish the later numbers meant what the earlier ones did!)

When I got my 17, I sent it back (poor convergence).

I sent the replacement back because the red gun was loose

I sent *its* replacement back because it wasnt sharp enough.

The fourth one... the fourth one... stayed up! (and didnt burn down or
fall into the swamp). I think its 7 years old now, and when I had it (2
years of its life) it was on 24/7/365. My dad uses it now, and it still
looks as good as the day I bought it (he uses it far less, though).

My 400 is the third I owned. (I sent the first two back for similar
reasons to the original 17's).

Its been running for 5 years now, almost entirely 24/7/365 (displaying a
picture the whole time - I never power it down as it takes too long for the
picture to 'lock' in place from cold (I adjust mine to use every last
phosphor smudge on the screen). And its only now starting to go downhill
(not reliability, but the picture tube is gradually fading - its contrast is
worsening, and it actually has burn-in of the task bar! not a common thing
to see in a modern unit - gives some idea of the punishment it gets!)

I'd buy another Iiyama unit in a flash, partly because (once I do the QC
guys job for him) they seem to be solid units, but mostly because the
customer service has be *ABSOLUTELY* stunning - they did not argue (nor
should they have) even once - and THEY paid all the postage!

If I could afford one of their 1600x1200 TFTs I'd have one *in a flash*.

LG on the other hand, almost *never* acknowledge faults, and, even when
its proven to be their fault, they wont do the honourable thing (and this
isnt just the recent drive failures under linux due to their non-compliance
to the atapi spec).


OK, it's pretty obvious that you and I have had a vastly different track
record regarding monitors. Although a certain 'wobbery monitor' from a
London supplier (back when clone-builders were a newly emergent species) did
lead me into a rather nice 7 year relationship with a 'Chelsea Girl Sloane
Ranger' who was actually from Fulham, but that's another (very long)
story..... ;-)

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 23:22:43 +0000 (UTC)
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:


If it ever breaks, let me know how the customer service is ;-)

Will do, but I suspect that it's MTBF exceeds mine.............

Just to throw in some data in the interests of fairness, My parents Bosch fridge (full height) has had 3 failed pumps.

To be fair to them they have serviced it free every time so far...

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On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 23:16:12 +0000 (UTC)
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

They all appear to be NT around my part of the country. Including the
ATMs.

That's just the desktops.

He did say 'including the ATMs' ;-)

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"Ian Molton" wrote in message
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On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 17:24:41 +0000 (UTC)
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

I like to keep the little people amused. I don't suppose you ride a
Triumph motorbike by any chance?

Nope. Werent they the ones that made aluminium castings so shoddy that
oil actually seeped THROUGH them ?


Nuffink shoddy about Triumph castings me old sunshine - eau cointreau, they
were very good an polished up like good 'uns. Oil seepage from the *joints*
(rather than the alloy as your post suggests) was never as bad as it sounds
or legend would have it. In any case, a few drops of oil here and there were
absolutely f*ck all compared to the tit-tingling thrill of frashing one of
those beauties up the (pre-dual carriageway) A1 I can tell you!

Last I heard, Triumph was very much on the up again and yet another example
of a company weathering ill fortune and hard times. (Ya really gotta try and
see the bigger picture....!!)

In fact, the last bike I had that persisted in dripping oil on my right boot
(despite my efforts to stop it) was a venerable BMW R75 boxer - a bike known
for its 'quality engineering'. The reason Jap bikes didn't drip oil in those
days is because they twigged that splitting the crankcase horizontally would
a) prevent oil drips and b) allow them to pull a few cheap (but effective)
tricks with main bearings!

Again I say, you can only speak as you find.....

"Kurt Hamster" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 23:24:09 +0000 (UTC), Stewart Pinkerton used
to say...

LOL! Kool, and I don't really give a sh1t tonight, as I'm off to India
in the morning. Peace and luurve, dudes, and good Kharma.....

You won't forget the Rennies and the iced toilet paper will you?

Have a good journey.


Yep and from me also - have a good 'un and *do* try not to forget the sticks
of rock this time...... ;-)

On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 00:04:18 -0000
"Keith G" wrote:

Last I heard, Triumph was very much on the up again

I must say I saw a modern one the other day and it was indeed a thing of beauty...

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