On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 14:26:53 +0000
Laurence Payne wrote:

A compressed format isn't going to sound *better*.

Not wishing to incur the attentions of two individuals here, but...

define better ;-)

Now, to be clear, I *totally* agree that mp3 will never be better in terms of faithfullness to the original.

But one interesting point is this.

My hearing is not 'usual', in that I dont seem to filter what I hear the same way as other people.

This can cause me a lot of problems and makes it very very hard for me to follow a conversation if more than 2 people are talking, for example, as I hear *everything* - my brain doesnt seperate out the streams from different people properly.

The same applies to music, which in many cases I think allows me to get more out of a track, however it can also make a track sound VERY stressfull, as I have to really concentrate in order to hear it properly.

I have found that lower bitrate CBR mp3 (128, 160, 192) tends to 'throw away' some of what is distracting me, and makes some tracks far more enjoyable to listen to.

Again, this falls entirely into the same category as using tone controls to make things 'better', and is not the more accurate kind of 'better'.

Just thought it was an interestng point.

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On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 14:52:52 +0000, Ian Molton wrote:

My hearing is not 'usual', in that I dont seem to filter what I hear the same way as other people.

This can cause me a lot of problems and makes it very very hard for me to follow a
conversation if more than 2 people are talking, for example, as I hear *everything* -
my brain doesnt seperate out the streams from different people properly.

I believe that's not uncommon, after a certain age. Rather like
EVERYONE over 40 needing reading glasses.

I certainly have it. (Which is, of course, why I investigated the
subject:-). It makes it difficult to filter conversations. It
makes UNWANTED music (Musak, "background" music etc.) doubly
irritating. But, as I don't play music as wallpaper, only when I
want to listen to it, it isn't a problem then.

With one exception. I do like to fall asleep to the World Service.
A determinedly lo-fi clock radio is best. Better sound keeps me
awake.

"Laurence Payne" wrote
I certainly have it. (Which is, of course, why I investigated the
subject:-). It makes it difficult to filter conversations. It
makes UNWANTED music (Musak, "background" music etc.) doubly
irritating. But, as I don't play music as wallpaper, only when I
want to listen to it, it isn't a problem then.

This scares me! I'm 32 and I've got about 3 years (I estimate) before
I'm gonna start developing a bald patch. And I'm still single so this
is worrying in the extreme. Now I read here that I can also possibly
"look forward" to a deterioration of brain function regarding my
ability to focus on a speaker in a noisy room. Nice.

With one exception. I do like to fall asleep to the World Service.
A determinedly lo-fi clock radio is best. Better sound keeps me
awake.

I have a crappy valve radio. Glowing in the dark, it is indeed,
comforting! Brand new valves, too! I'm happy to say, it has no
clock attached.


Martin
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On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 17:43:52 -0000, "Fleetie"
wrote:

This scares me! I'm 32 and I've got about 3 years (I estimate) before
I'm gonna start developing a bald patch. And I'm still single so this
is worrying in the extreme. Now I read here that I can also possibly
"look forward" to a deterioration of brain function regarding my
ability to focus on a speaker in a noisy room. Nice.


EVERYTHING deteriorates.

But, hopefully, you get more ingenious in using what's left :-)

"Fleetie" wrote in message
...
"Laurence Payne" wrote
I certainly have it. (Which is, of course, why I investigated the
subject:-). It makes it difficult to filter conversations. It
makes UNWANTED music (Musak, "background" music etc.) doubly
irritating. But, as I don't play music as wallpaper, only when I
want to listen to it, it isn't a problem then.

This scares me! I'm 32 and I've got about 3 years (I estimate) before
I'm gonna start developing a bald patch.


Buy a longer bed then...... ;-)


And I'm still single so this
is worrying in the extreme. Now I read here that I can also possibly
"look forward" to a deterioration of brain function regarding my
ability to focus on a speaker in a noisy room. Nice.

With one exception. I do like to fall asleep to the World Service.
A determinedly lo-fi clock radio is best. Better sound keeps me
awake.

I have a crappy valve radio. Glowing in the dark, it is indeed,
comforting! Brand new valves, too! I'm happy to say, it has no
clock attached.


OK, you need a nice GPS controlled Nixisat to go with it then!

See:

http://www.amug.org/~jthomas/clockpage.html

"Keith G" wrote
Buy a longer bed then...... ;-)

Huh? *Whoosh* -- That was the sound of your joke (I assume) going way
over my head.

OK, you need a nice GPS controlled Nixisat to go with it then!

See:

http://www.amug.org/~jthomas/clockpage.html

*Drool*. *******. I've got wood now. HomerN-i-x-i-e T-u-b-e-s! Mmm!/


Martin
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M.A.Poyser Tel.: 07967 110890
Manchester, U.K. http://www.fleetie.demon.co.uk