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Ian Bell February 7th 04 12:09 PM

My equipment review of the Bose 901
 
Peter Sammon wrote:


Science and technology are difficult concepts to grasp at times. Bose
901s aren't perfect, but they have tackled the difficult engineering
challenges other less technologically developed speaker companies can't
even grasp!

For God's sakes, we're talking real science, research and engineering
concepts!


OK, so which particular engineering challenges have they tackled? Let's
talk real engineering.

Ian



George M. Middius February 7th 04 02:29 PM

My equipment review of the Bose 901
 


Peter Sammon said:

For God's sakes, we're talking real science, research and engineering
concepts!


Then why do those birdhouses sound so bad when they're asked to play
music?




George M. Middius February 7th 04 02:29 PM

My equipment review of the Bose 901
 


Peter Sammon said:

The 901's do not conform to modern theory or practice, and are notably
inferior to practically any modern speaker sold at more than a
moderate price point.


Nonesense. They are base upon sound engineering principles, so sound in
fact the US Air Force has depended upon Bose equipment.


But they sound like crap.




Sander deWaal February 7th 04 04:58 PM

My equipment review of the Bose 901
 
Nutter said:

Next you'll be telling us that B&O are reasonably priced with 'high
end' (whatever that is) sound.


B&O made some good sounding speakers in the past, Bose never did.
Besides, B&O offers at least an appealing design, Bose does not.

If the BOSE technology were so great, why then are they the only (?)
people creating reflex speakers for the home market?


There are/were others, Sonab comes to mind.

--
Mr Klipsch and Dr Bose are walking down opposite sides of the street,
approaching each other.
Klipsch cups his hands around his mouth, faces Bose and calls out :
"Hey, Bose, you still making those speakers"
Bose turns his head away, stuffs his scarf in his mouth and mutters :
"Yep" - Unknown poster in rec.audio.tubes

Stimpy February 7th 04 05:18 PM

My equipment review of the Bose 901
 
Peter Sammon wrote:

I love it when people say that Bose is not taken seriously by the
rest of the industry...of course if you are referring to the so
called HIGH END...there is a great reason why...because the high end
hates Bose and the 901


....because they sound crap



Scott Dorsey February 7th 04 06:25 PM

My equipment review of the Bose 901
 
Julian Fowler wrote:

Applied to Bose "hi fii" products? APPLIED TO BOSE "HI FI"
PRODUCTS???

RAOTFL ... unless, of course, the result of "real science, research
and engineering concepts" is *supposed* to be crap sound ...


In actuality, Bose does an awful lot of very careful engineering and
research. But their products sound crappy because they are deliberately
designed to sound crappy.

They aren't designed to sound good because that's not the design goal
they have set. They are designed to sound different, to really stand
out from other speakers when you listen to them. They are designed to
sound exciting, to have a lot of boom and a lot of screech, so that
they really appeal to the inexperienced listener for a short listen in
the store.

Bose has done very careful research into how typical buyers listen to
stereo gear, and they have designed gear to get those buyers' attention.
A huge amount of very careful engineering goes into their products to
make them as cheap as possible and get the best possible margins.

It's worth it to take apart one of their Acoustmass enclosures. It really
is a brilliant piece of engineering... I swear it can't cost more than ten
bucks total to make one of those things. The amount of manufacturing
engineering that has gone into bringing the manufacting price down is
amazing.

I have to have a lot of respect for Bose, even if I can't stand listening
to any of their products. They know their market and they know how to
build products for that market to maximize profit. I'd certainly consider
Bose stock a good investment even if I'd consider buying their speakers
to be flushing money down the toilet.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Rob Adelman February 7th 04 06:31 PM

My equipment review of the Bose 901
 


Peter Sammon wrote:

I truly believe that technology such as that encorporated within Bose
901s should be shared with everyone, Germany, France or even less
technologically advanced countries such as the UK.


So you finally admit you are a troll.

That is why I posted
here.


I suggest you get a life.



barry February 7th 04 07:50 PM

My equipment review of the Bose 901
 

"Peter Sammon" wrote in message
...
"Geoff Wood" -nospam wrote in
:

I truly believe that technology such as that encorporated within Bose
901s should be shared with everyone, Germany, France or even less
technologically advanced countries such as the UK. That is why I posted
here.



Peter.......you are trying to wind us all up :) and you are doing well
but its a lost cause mate....... as my old grandma used to say "you cant
polish a turd!"

Barry




Joseph Oberlander February 7th 04 08:19 PM

My equipment review of the Bose 901
 
Scott Dorsey wrote:

Julian Fowler wrote:

Applied to Bose "hi fii" products? APPLIED TO BOSE "HI FI"
PRODUCTS???

RAOTFL ... unless, of course, the result of "real science, research
and engineering concepts" is *supposed* to be crap sound ...



In actuality, Bose does an awful lot of very careful engineering and
research. But their products sound crappy because they are deliberately
designed to sound crappy.

They aren't designed to sound good because that's not the design goal
they have set. They are designed to sound different, to really stand
out from other speakers when you listen to them. They are designed to
sound exciting, to have a lot of boom and a lot of screech, so that
they really appeal to the inexperienced listener for a short listen in
the store.


It's trickier than that. Ever wonder why there is a huge midrange
hump? Simple - where they are selling them is often a mall or
large store. TONS of background noise. They are specifically made
to sound good in such an environment. In other words, they adjust
the sound to play somewhat flat in a typical store full of shoppers.

Now, since we don't live in a store, you unfortunately are stuck with
this "effect" when you are at home and don't need it. But it DOES sell
a lot of speakers. The people don't return them because they still
have the idea of the acceptable sound in the store when they first
listened to them in their minds.

Marketing genius. Poor sound quality, though.

P.S. They use the same "trick" with car speakers. Here, it works,
because of the constant wind and engine and tire drone at about
60-80db.


Geoff Wood February 7th 04 09:18 PM

My equipment review of the Bose 901
 
barry wrote:
Peter.......you are trying to wind us all up :) and you are doing well
but its a lost cause mate....... as my old grandma used to say
"you cant polish a turd!"



Look, Barry. Before you post your erroneous generalisations here I suggest
you research your summary dismissal of the concept in question .

GoogleGroups will show you copious threads in many newsgroups where it has
been firmly establish that you indeed CAN polish a turd. The trick is that
you have to freeze it first.


geoff




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