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192kbps MP3s on a big sound system?



 
 
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Old February 11th 04, 09:22 PM posted to rec.audio.pro,rec.audio.tech,uk.rec.audio
citronzx
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Default 192kbps MP3s on a big sound system?


"Alex Rodriguez" wrote in message
...
In article et,
says...

You all must go to pretty fancy clubs where everyone is quiet and the

music
is played softly enough that you can even understand what the singer is
singing. The acoustics in most clubs combined with the ambient noise

makes
for such a poor listening experience to begin with that I doubt anyone

would
notice the difference between an MP3 and a CD. You might notice a loss

of
bass with some tracks though.


You must go to clubs that have crappy gear. Loud distortion sounds like
loud distortion. You can hear it, just louder. Most of the clubs I have
been to have sound systems that play clean and loud. So unless you are
really drunk, you can hear the lousy sound.
-------------
Alex


That was pretty much my point, the music's always sounds crappy in a packed
club. I'm talking about a place where everyone is talking and many are
dancing. Even it the sound system sounds terrific with the place empty, the
guests will not be able to tell over the ambient noise in a full club. You
can feel the bass, so you can dance, and you can make out words (if any) if
you already know the music but that's it. I'm talking about dance music
like: Top 20, R&B, Techno, and maybe some 80's. No one goes to a club for
the quality of the reproduction of the music, you just have to be able to
dance to it.


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Old February 15th 04, 02:54 AM posted to rec.audio.pro,rec.audio.tech,uk.rec.audio,alt.music.makers.dj
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Default 192kbps MP3s on a big sound system?

I agree, the acoustics of a club change dramaticlly when there are 200+
people jumping, screaming, talking, dancing, stripping, and everything else
that goes on. I have a few tracks that sound like crap when the room is
empty, but when I play them at night I can only hear the difference in my
headphones, no one on the floor notices.

Clean music and a good system are always helpful but useless if you dont
work the crowd. None of them are audiophiles, they wont care if your version
of milkshake is 128kbps or CD, as long as they can dance to it.


"citronzx" wrote in message
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"Alex Rodriguez" wrote in message
...
In article et,
says...

You all must go to pretty fancy clubs where everyone is quiet and the

music
is played softly enough that you can even understand what the singer is
singing. The acoustics in most clubs combined with the ambient noise

makes
for such a poor listening experience to begin with that I doubt anyone

would
notice the difference between an MP3 and a CD. You might notice a loss

of
bass with some tracks though.


You must go to clubs that have crappy gear. Loud distortion sounds like
loud distortion. You can hear it, just louder. Most of the clubs I

have
been to have sound systems that play clean and loud. So unless you are
really drunk, you can hear the lousy sound.
-------------
Alex


That was pretty much my point, the music's always sounds crappy in a

packed
club. I'm talking about a place where everyone is talking and many are
dancing. Even it the sound system sounds terrific with the place empty,

the
guests will not be able to tell over the ambient noise in a full club.

You
can feel the bass, so you can dance, and you can make out words (if any)

if
you already know the music but that's it. I'm talking about dance music
like: Top 20, R&B, Techno, and maybe some 80's. No one goes to a club for
the quality of the reproduction of the music, you just have to be able to
dance to it.






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Old February 15th 04, 04:36 AM posted to rec.audio.pro,rec.audio.tech,uk.rec.audio,alt.music.makers.dj
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Default 192kbps MP3s on a big sound system?

"sk8erteck" wrote in message
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Clean music and a good system are always helpful but useless if you dont
work the crowd. None of them are audiophiles, they wont care if your

version
of milkshake is 128kbps or CD, as long as they can dance to it.


You said a mouthful.


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Old February 15th 04, 06:21 AM posted to rec.audio.pro,rec.audio.tech,uk.rec.audio,alt.music.makers.dj
Dutch
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Default 192kbps MP3s on a big sound system?

Every MP3 I have is 128kbps. No one even the DJs that come to my shows don't
know the difference. If you EQ it right and setup the computer right no one
will notice the difference at all.
Besides most of the professional drinkers are so drunk by 9PM that they
wouldn't notice if their seat was on fire let alone a minor musical
fluctuation.

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"sk8erteck" wrote in message
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Clean music and a good system are always helpful but useless if you dont
work the crowd. None of them are audiophiles, they wont care if your

version
of milkshake is 128kbps or CD, as long as they can dance to it.


You said a mouthful.




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Old February 15th 04, 07:10 AM posted to rec.audio.pro,rec.audio.tech,uk.rec.audio,alt.music.makers.dj
Tim S Kemp
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Default 192kbps MP3s on a big sound system?

Dutch wrote:
Every MP3 I have is 128kbps. No one even the DJs that come to my
shows don't know the difference. If you EQ it right and setup the
computer right no one will notice the difference at all.
Besides most of the professional drinkers are so drunk by 9PM that
they wouldn't notice if their seat was on fire let alone a minor
musical fluctuation.


You must have a crap sound system. And EQ cannot fix anything.


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Old February 15th 04, 10:18 AM posted to rec.audio.pro,rec.audio.tech,uk.rec.audio,alt.music.makers.dj
Geoff Wood
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Default 192kbps MP3s on a big sound system?

Dutch wrote:
Every MP3 I have is 128kbps. No one even the DJs that come to my
shows don't know the difference.


All deaf.


geoff


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Old February 15th 04, 10:17 AM posted to rec.audio.pro,rec.audio.tech,uk.rec.audio,alt.music.makers.dj
Geoff Wood
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Default 192kbps MP3s on a big sound system?

sk8erteck wrote:
I agree, the acoustics of a club change dramaticlly when there are
200+ people jumping, screaming, talking, dancing, stripping, and
everything else that goes on. I have a few tracks that sound like
crap when the room is empty, but when I play them at night I can only
hear the difference in my headphones, no one on the floor notices.

Clean music and a good system are always helpful but useless if you
dont work the crowd. None of them are audiophiles, they wont care if
your version of milkshake is 128kbps or CD, as long as they can dance
to it.



With the copious upper-mid/lo-hi crud of mp3s, your patrons may develop
ear-fatigue after 30 minutes or so.

geoff


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Old February 15th 04, 05:13 PM posted to rec.audio.pro,rec.audio.tech,uk.rec.audio,alt.music.makers.dj
sk8erteck
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Default 192kbps MP3s on a big sound system?

Not all of my songs are mp3's (most arent) but the few I have sound the same
under the conditions of the club. My point was that none of the patrons are
audiophiles and really don't care if there is a slight change in the sound.

Sorry I am still new to newsgroups and I thought this would get put under
the thread for this and not top posted.


"Geoff Wood" -nospam wrote in message
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sk8erteck wrote:
I agree, the acoustics of a club change dramaticlly when there are
200+ people jumping, screaming, talking, dancing, stripping, and
everything else that goes on. I have a few tracks that sound like
crap when the room is empty, but when I play them at night I can only
hear the difference in my headphones, no one on the floor notices.

Clean music and a good system are always helpful but useless if you
dont work the crowd. None of them are audiophiles, they wont care if
your version of milkshake is 128kbps or CD, as long as they can dance
to it.



With the copious upper-mid/lo-hi crud of mp3s, your patrons may develop
ear-fatigue after 30 minutes or so.

geoff






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Old February 17th 04, 01:35 AM posted to rec.audio.pro,rec.audio.tech,uk.rec.audio,alt.music.makers.dj
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Default 192kbps MP3s on a big sound system?

Patrons of a nightclub with a huge sound system generally develop ear
fatigue within minutes of entering -- unless you're talking about a
quiet jazz club...

With the copious upper-mid/lo-hi crud of mp3s, your patrons may develop
ear-fatigue after 30 minutes or so.


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