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Old February 11th 04, 01:23 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Triffid
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steve wrote:
I may want to have a bash at making a recording of my wife's choir. I
realise it will not be remotely professional quality, but I hope I
could do better than a portable cassette deck!

I had in mind recording in two ways:
1. On my Sony Minidisc player
2. On my PC, creating a WAV file onto the hard disc, which I could
later put onto CD.

I have an old but decent (I think) pair of panasonic microphones
which I could experiment with. I assume I would stick them into my
stereo amplifier (circa 1975), and then feed the output into my
Minidisc player and into the sound card of the PC.

I know my home PC (Athlon 1400 processor) seems quite happy at making
decent WAV files, using Musicmatch software. I haven't tried yet
with my work laptop (Intel 900), and I don't know what software I
would use on that.

Thanks for any (polite) suggestions, or any pointers to web sites
that I would find useful.

Steve


1) I have a portable cassette deck that can happily flatten any minidisc
recorder out there, ta very much (Sony TC153).

2) Where are you going to position the mics - can you fit them in on stage,
or will they be in the aisle?

3) How are you going to mount them - you can't spent the whole concert with
them on your lap y'kno.

4) Will the leads be long enough.

5) If it's the pc, the power cords are gonna be a pain, and the laptop WILL
flatten the batteries just at the good bit.

If you're interested, this was taken with my TC153 and a cheapo
audio-technica stereo mic meant for video recorders 10ft from the stage of a
small church in the centre aisle, on a camera tripod.

http://punter1.users.btopenworld.com..._Flat_Op77.mp3


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Old February 11th 04, 12:30 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Ian Bell
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Triffid wrote:



1) I have a portable cassette deck that can happily flatten any minidisc
recorder out there, ta very much (Sony TC153).



If you're interested, this was taken with my TC153 and a cheapo
audio-technica stereo mic meant for video recorders 10ft from the stage of
a small church in the centre aisle, on a camera tripod.


http://punter1.users.btopenworld.com..._Flat_Op77.mp3

Pity about the hiss and distortion though.

Ian

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Old February 11th 04, 12:39 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Triffid
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Ian Bell wrote:
Triffid wrote:



1) I have a portable cassette deck that can happily flatten any
minidisc recorder out there, ta very much (Sony TC153).



If you're interested, this was taken with my TC153 and a cheapo
audio-technica stereo mic meant for video recorders 10ft from the
stage of a small church in the centre aisle, on a camera tripod.



http://punter1.users.btopenworld.com..._Flat_Op77.mp3

Pity about the hiss and distortion though.


Would that be hiss and distortion as in 'sex and violence'? There is some
hiss, but not a lot of distortion, and the point was that it's
representative of what you're likely to get if you just walk into a room
armed with a recorder rather than get the chance to set it up properly. I
think it sounds a bit thin, but that's cheapo mics for you.


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Old February 11th 04, 01:00 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Laurence Payne
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On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 13:39:57 +0000 (UTC), "Triffid"
wrote:

Would that be hiss and distortion as in 'sex and violence'? There is some
hiss, but not a lot of distortion, and the point was that it's
representative of what you're likely to get if you just walk into a room
armed with a recorder rather than get the chance to set it up properly. I
think it sounds a bit thin, but that's cheapo mics for you.


I hear severe distortion on the louder passages - probably a simple
overload.
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Old February 11th 04, 04:30 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Ian Bell
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Triffid wrote:

Ian Bell wrote:
Triffid wrote:



1) I have a portable cassette deck that can happily flatten any
minidisc recorder out there, ta very much (Sony TC153).



If you're interested, this was taken with my TC153 and a cheapo
audio-technica stereo mic meant for video recorders 10ft from the
stage of a small church in the centre aisle, on a camera tripod.




http://punter1.users.btopenworld.com..._Flat_Op77.mp3

Pity about the hiss and distortion though.


Would that be hiss and distortion as in 'sex and violence'? There is some
hiss, but not a lot of distortion, and the point was that it's
representative of what you're likely to get if you just walk into a room
armed with a recorder rather than get the chance to set it up properly. I
think it sounds a bit thin, but that's cheapo mics for you.


The hiss sounds like band limited Dolby hiss typical of cassette recorders.
the distortion could be from a number of sources but the tape itself is a
prime one. I think the only way your TC153 would flatten a minidsik
recorder is if it were dropped on it.

Ian
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Old February 12th 04, 02:01 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Bill
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Ian Bell wrote in message ...
Triffid wrote:

Ian Bell wrote:
Triffid wrote:



1) I have a portable cassette deck that can happily flatten any
minidisc recorder out there, ta very much (Sony TC153).



If you're interested, this was taken with my TC153 and a cheapo
audio-technica stereo mic meant for video recorders 10ft from the
stage of a small church in the centre aisle, on a camera tripod.




http://punter1.users.btopenworld.com..._Flat_Op77.mp3

Pity about the hiss and distortion though.


Would that be hiss and distortion as in 'sex and violence'? There is some
hiss, but not a lot of distortion, and the point was that it's
representative of what you're likely to get if you just walk into a room
armed with a recorder rather than get the chance to set it up properly. I
think it sounds a bit thin, but that's cheapo mics for you.


The hiss sounds like band limited Dolby hiss typical of cassette recorders.
the distortion could be from a number of sources but the tape itself is a
prime one. I think the only way your TC153 would flatten a minidsik
recorder is if it were dropped on it.

Ian


With a laptop, Super Mp3 Recorder at http://www.supermp3recorder.com helps much.
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Old February 12th 04, 07:18 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Ian Bell
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Bill wrote:

Ian Bell wrote in message
...
Triffid wrote:

Ian Bell wrote:
Triffid wrote:



1) I have a portable cassette deck that can happily flatten any
minidisc recorder out there, ta very much (Sony TC153).



If you're interested, this was taken with my TC153 and a cheapo
audio-technica stereo mic meant for video recorders 10ft from the
stage of a small church in the centre aisle, on a camera tripod.





http://punter1.users.btopenworld.com..._Flat_Op77.mp3

Pity about the hiss and distortion though.


Would that be hiss and distortion as in 'sex and violence'? There is
some hiss, but not a lot of distortion, and the point was that it's
representative of what you're likely to get if you just walk into a
room
armed with a recorder rather than get the chance to set it up properly.
I think it sounds a bit thin, but that's cheapo mics for you.


The hiss sounds like band limited Dolby hiss typical of cassette
recorders. the distortion could be from a number of sources but the tape
itself is a
prime one. I think the only way your TC153 would flatten a minidsik
recorder is if it were dropped on it.

Ian


With a laptop, Super Mp3 Recorder at http://www.supermp3recorder.com helps
much.


YuK!!!!!

Ian
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Old February 11th 04, 12:59 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Laurence Payne
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Default Recording a concert by local choir

On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 02:23:23 +0000 (UTC), "Triffid"
wrote:

1) I have a portable cassette deck that can happily flatten any minidisc
recorder out there, ta very much (Sony TC153).

2) Where are you going to position the mics - can you fit them in on stage,
or will they be in the aisle?

3) How are you going to mount them - you can't spent the whole concert with
them on your lap y'kno.

4) Will the leads be long enough.

5) If it's the pc, the power cords are gonna be a pain, and the laptop WILL
flatten the batteries just at the good bit.

If you're interested, this was taken with my TC153 and a cheapo
audio-technica stereo mic meant for video recorders 10ft from the stage of a
small church in the centre aisle, on a camera tripod.

http://punter1.users.btopenworld.com..._Flat_Op77.mp3


Terrible tape noise in the initial "silence", distortion on the first
forte passage. Not a terribly good advert for your system, I'm
afraid :-)

I'm going to continue to recommend the Rode NT4 stereo mic. Runs on
internal 9v battery or standard phantom power. 2 x XLR and stereo
minijack cables included. Along with a portable minidisk recorder
it's the ideal tool for this job.

Though the stereo mic that came with my minidisk recorder, a tiny
thing marked PC-62, runs a surprisingly close second.

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Old February 11th 04, 04:50 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Tim S Kemp
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I'm going to continue to recommend the Rode NT4 stereo mic. Runs on
internal 9v battery or standard phantom power. 2 x XLR and stereo
minijack cables included. Along with a portable minidisk recorder
it's the ideal tool for this job.


Yep, minidisc all the way - I reckon on 4 safe hours then change the AA
battery, using a Sony MS907 mic for ordinary stuff or a pair of Superlux
HM8-A through a behringer preamp or a yamaha mixer for anything important


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Old February 11th 04, 08:29 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman
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In article ,
Triffid wrote:
1) I have a portable cassette deck that can happily flatten any minidisc
recorder out there, ta very much (Sony TC153).


It would, being heavier.

But not in a subjective test on 99% of programme material. And that's with
a cassette well up to spec, which most in practice aren't.

--
*Give me ambiguity or give me something else.

Dave Plowman London SW 12
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