Hi,

I was just listening to a CD and noticed it had a "copy controlled" logo on
it, so I thought I would stick it in my PC to see what happened.

I cancelled the "do you want to install the software" dialog, then went into
nero, selected 'save tracks to HD' and I was able to save the tracks to
uncompressed WAV without any warnings or anything.

Have I been incredibly devious here? I wasn't trying to defeat the copy
protection, just watch it in action.

FWIW the CD is called "urban flavas 2" on untouchables records (not to be
confused with the unrelated "urban flavas" series on warner). The PC is
running nero 5.5 express on windows 2000 server sp4 with a pioneer dvr-106d.

Andy

"Andy Fish" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I was just listening to a CD and noticed it had a "copy controlled" logo
on
it, so I thought I would stick it in my PC to see what happened.

I cancelled the "do you want to install the software" dialog, then went
into
nero, selected 'save tracks to HD' and I was able to save the tracks to
uncompressed WAV without any warnings or anything.

Have I been incredibly devious here? I wasn't trying to defeat the copy
protection, just watch it in action.

FWIW the CD is called "urban flavas 2" on untouchables records (not to be
confused with the unrelated "urban flavas" series on warner). The PC is
running nero 5.5 express on windows 2000 server sp4 with a pioneer
dvr-106d.

It would appear as usual that so-called "copy protection" DOESN'T. Of
course this most likely won't prevent the RIAA from screaming that "it's the
pirates! The PIRATES!"


--
Steve Goodman
* Cartoons about DVDs and stuff
* http://www.earthlight.net/HiddenTrack

"Revd. Norle Enturbulata" wrote in message
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It would appear as usual that so-called "copy protection" DOESN'T.

If however it does, CloneCD does the job.

"Andy Fish" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Have I been incredibly devious here? I wasn't trying to defeat the copy
protection, just watch it in action.


My experience is that the copy protection doesn't work. All it achieves is
making the CD unplayable on many (usually high end) CD players. However, if
you rip the tracks ('cos the protection doen't work) and burn your own CD,
that plays perfectly.

Have a look at http://ukcdr.org/ for more blurb, including a list of
"affected" CDs.

Roy.




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I can confirm that is the case. Norah Jones Feels like Home will not play on a
top of the range DVD player my cousin has, but after I did a straight copy using
Nero 6 the copy disc plays fine.

Remember on the back of all your vinyl albums from the 70's "Home Taping is
Killing Music"
Then CD copying Was Killing Music
Now Downloading is Killing Music

Crap music at high prices is killing music.


I still doubt the likes of
Asda are selling them as loss leaders at £9.87 when the list price is 13-15
quid!

and even that is expense when you can buy the of the net at £8.99 or less from
the likes of CD-WOW and Play247 and they will deliver it to your door.

Your got to wonder the brains of the folk at the BPI when their way to stop
piracy was to try and make CD-WOW put UP the price of a CD. Now that is plan
stupid.




"Roy" rp wrote in message ...

"Andy Fish" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Have I been incredibly devious here? I wasn't trying to defeat the copy
protection, just watch it in action.


My experience is that the copy protection doesn't work. All it achieves is
making the CD unplayable on many (usually high end) CD players. However, if
you rip the tracks ('cos the protection doen't work) and burn your own CD,
that plays perfectly.

Have a look at http://ukcdr.org/ for more blurb, including a list of
"affected" CDs.

Roy.




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"Whiteflyer" wrote in message
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I can confirm that is the case. Norah Jones Feels like Home will not play
on a
top of the range DVD player my cousin has, but after I did a straight copy
using
Nero 6 the copy disc plays fine.

Remember on the back of all your vinyl albums from the 70's "Home Taping
is
Killing Music"
Then CD copying Was Killing Music
Now Downloading is Killing Music

Crap music at high prices is killing music.


I still doubt the likes of
Asda are selling them as loss leaders at £9.87 when the list price is
13-15
quid!

and even that is expense when you can buy the of the net at £8.99 or less
from
the likes of CD-WOW and Play247 and they will deliver it to your door.

Your got to wonder the brains of the folk at the BPI when their way to
stop
piracy was to try and make CD-WOW put UP the price of a CD. Now that is
plan
stupid.



also the population is aging in western sociaty,
so less people to buy 'youth pop' music,
the 14-24 YO group prob has the most disposible income for music.
and PC games and similar are more attractive now than owning the latest
albums.
regards malcolm

malcolm wrote:


"Whiteflyer" wrote in message
...
I can confirm that is the case. Norah Jones Feels like Home will not
play
on a
top of the range DVD player my cousin has, but after I did a straight
copy
using
Nero 6 the copy disc plays fine.

Remember on the back of all your vinyl albums from the 70's "Home
Taping
is
Killing Music"
Then CD copying Was Killing Music
Now Downloading is Killing Music

Crap music at high prices is killing music.


I still doubt the likes of
Asda are selling them as loss leaders at £9.87 when the list price is
13-15
quid!

and even that is expense when you can buy the of the net at £8.99 or less
from
the likes of CD-WOW and Play247 and they will deliver it to your door.

Your got to wonder the brains of the folk at the BPI when their way to
stop
piracy was to try and make CD-WOW put UP the price of a CD. Now that is
plan
stupid.



also the population is aging in western sociaty,
so less people to buy 'youth pop' music,

I think the group nowadays with the most disposable income is the over 50s.

Ian