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Is this an audio group, a group for music lovers or an engineering group?



 
 
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Old June 22nd 04, 10:05 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
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Is this an audio group, a group for music lovers or an engineering group?

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Old June 22nd 04, 10:16 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
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Andy Evans wrote:
Is this an audio group, a group for music lovers or an engineering group?


With audio in the title I'd say it deals more with the hardware.

You don't need any interest in audio to be a music lover.

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Old June 22nd 04, 10:32 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
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Andy Evans wrote:
Is this an audio group, a group for music lovers or an engineering
group?


Here's the group's charter...

http://www.usenet.org.uk/uk.rec.audio.html


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Old June 22nd 04, 11:44 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
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"Andy Evans" wrote in message

Is this an audio group, a group for music lovers or an engineering
group?


As they say, audio is engineering, music is art.


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Old June 22nd 04, 02:07 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Andy Evans
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As they say, audio is engineering, music is art.

....you can see engineering, you can touch engineering and you can measure
engineering but you can't hear engineering. Isn't hearing phenomena called
psychoacoustics?
"Psychoacoustics can be defined simply as the psychological study of hearing.
The aim of psychoacoustic research is to find out how hearing works. In other
words, the aim is to discover how sounds entering the ear are processed by the
ear and the brain in order to give the listener useful information about the
world outside.Some of the hot areas of psychoacoustic research at the time of
writing a
How do we separate sounds occurring simultaneously (e.g. two speakers speaking
at once)?
How do we localise sounds in space?
How do we determine the pitch of, say, a musical instrument?
How does the cochlea separate a complex sound into its different frequency
components?
Determining the abilities and limitations of human hearing is invaluable in
helping us to use sounds in our environment. Any device that produces sound for
the purpose of human listening should take account of what the listener's ears
are going to do with that sound. "

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Old June 22nd 04, 05:18 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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In article ,
Andy Evans wrote:
How does the cochlea separate a complex sound into its different
frequency components?


It doesn't - it's part of a simple microphone. The brain does the clever
bits.

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Old June 22nd 04, 06:24 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Andy Evans wrote:
How does the cochlea separate a complex sound into its different
frequency components?


It doesn't - it's part of a simple microphone. The brain does the clever
bits.


I was under the impression that different parts of the cochlea are sensitive
to different frequency bands...??

Roy




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Old June 22nd 04, 07:08 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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Roy rp wrote:
It doesn't - it's part of a simple microphone. The brain does the
clever bits.


I was under the impression that different parts of the cochlea are
sensitive to different frequency bands...??


It's not linear, unlike a decent microphone. But the brain sorts that out
too.

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Old June 22nd 04, 05:53 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Nick Gorham
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Andy Evans wrote:

How does the cochlea separate a complex sound into its different
frequency components?



It doesn't - it's part of a simple microphone. The brain does the clever
bits.


I woudn't argue that the brain does the clever bits, but the little I
have read about the subject shows that the operation of the cochlea is
nothing like any microphone I have seen, and is far from simple.

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Old June 22nd 04, 06:57 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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"Nick Gorham" wrote
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Andy Evans wrote:

How does the cochlea separate a complex sound into its different
frequency components?



It doesn't - it's part of a simple microphone. The brain does the clever
bits.


I woudn't argue that the brain does the clever bits, but the little I
have read about the subject shows that the operation of the cochlea is
nothing like any microphone I have seen, and is far from simple.


Yeah.

Micro-hairs at different positions along the length of the inside of
the cochlea respond to different frequencies.

It's been years since my degree now, but the whole thing is rather
elaborate.

If you care, you (pl.) could google for something like

cochlea hairs frequencies "organ of corti" window

Hmm, just tried the above; it works ok.


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