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DJ TecThreat July 6th 04 10:21 AM

Scoop Bins
 

"levyte357" wrote in message
...
I recently acquired 4 18" scoop bins at an absurdly cheap price
due to reclaim of storage space.

Unfortunately, they are made of High Density chipboard,
and covered with aged vinly covering, but have good dimensions and are

VERY,
VERY solid.

My "Sound Guy" I took with me to check them out before buying them, said

it
would be worthwhile to strip the vinyl, and spray them with fibreglass
resin.

I am in E London.

Q1. Where can I get fibreglass spray in London?
Q2. Is it better to paint boxes first, then spray/paint on resin?
Q3. Would it be cheaper for a cabinet maker to do it ?

Thanx in advance.


Its a little more than just a spray AFAIK, i used to work for a car audio
shop making enclosers, kick pods, panels, bezels, etc.. out of fiberglass
and there was alot of preparation and mixing involved and if not done right
it can be a mess, its also very hazzardess your health and is deadly if the
right precautions arent taken.

Now, dont get discouraged, if you feel you can do it, then i would get
intouch with a fiberglass supply company, i dont know of any in the UK and
the one where i got my stuff from says they wont ship out of the US.

Like i said its not just a simple spray theres a bit more to it than that,
you're going to need resin, fiberglass (chopmatt or weave), a brush and some
acetone, not to mention some gloves and a respirator mask.

If this seems like a bit much for your liking, you may want to send them out
to have it done.

DJ TecThreat
The Real Threat



levyte357 July 6th 04 10:59 AM

Scoop Bins
 
I recently acquired 4 18" scoop bins at an absurdly cheap price
due to reclaim of storage space.

Unfortunately, they are made of High Density chipboard,
and covered with aged vinly covering, but have good dimensions and are VERY,
VERY solid.

My "Sound Guy" I took with me to check them out before buying them, said it
would be worthwhile to strip the vinyl, and spray them with fibreglass
resin.

I am in E London.

Q1. Where can I get fibreglass spray in London?
Q2. Is it better to paint boxes first, then spray/paint on resin?
Q3. Would it be cheaper for a cabinet maker to do it ?

Thanx in advance.



d parker July 6th 04 12:37 PM

Scoop Bins
 
Yeah that's one idea.. OR, you could get hold of some Pro Industry paint
called "Rock Hard". Just brush it on and you will have a very strong but
hi qual finish. Not cheap but worth every $$.


--
Dave Parker
Pro Beat Entertainment
www.probeatentertainment.com
"levyte357" wrote in message
...
I recently acquired 4 18" scoop bins at an absurdly cheap price
due to reclaim of storage space.

Unfortunately, they are made of High Density chipboard,
and covered with aged vinly covering, but have good dimensions and are

VERY,
VERY solid.

My "Sound Guy" I took with me to check them out before buying them, said

it
would be worthwhile to strip the vinyl, and spray them with fibreglass
resin.

I am in E London.

Q1. Where can I get fibreglass spray in London?
Q2. Is it better to paint boxes first, then spray/paint on resin?
Q3. Would it be cheaper for a cabinet maker to do it ?

Thanx in advance.





Scott Dorsey July 6th 04 01:48 PM

Scoop Bins
 
DJ TecThreat beaniATcharterDOTnetNOSPAM wrote:
"levyte357" wrote in message

My "Sound Guy" I took with me to check them out before buying them, said

it
would be worthwhile to strip the vinyl, and spray them with fibreglass
resin.


Its a little more than just a spray AFAIK, i used to work for a car audio
shop making enclosers, kick pods, panels, bezels, etc.. out of fiberglass
and there was alot of preparation and mixing involved and if not done right
it can be a mess, its also very hazzardess your health and is deadly if the
right precautions arent taken.

Now, dont get discouraged, if you feel you can do it, then i would get
intouch with a fiberglass supply company, i dont know of any in the UK and
the one where i got my stuff from says they wont ship out of the US.


Take it to a surfboard shop and have them do the work. They do it all day
long, and they don't charge a lot.

My question, though, is whether anyone has tried the spray-on truck bed
liner material. Around here, lots of pickup trucks are driving around with
this spray-on polymer stuff in the bed, and there are places all over the
place that are applying it. It looks like just the thing to stiffen an A-7.
--scott


--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Robert Morein July 6th 04 02:00 PM

Scoop Bins
 

"levyte357" wrote in message
...
I recently acquired 4 18" scoop bins at an absurdly cheap price
due to reclaim of storage space.

Unfortunately, they are made of High Density chipboard,
and covered with aged vinly covering, but have good dimensions and are

VERY,
VERY solid.

My "Sound Guy" I took with me to check them out before buying them, said

it
would be worthwhile to strip the vinyl, and spray them with fibreglass
resin.

I am in E London.

Q1. Where can I get fibreglass spray in London?
Q2. Is it better to paint boxes first, then spray/paint on resin?
Q3. Would it be cheaper for a cabinet maker to do it ?

Thanx in advance.

There are new wonders every day, but I've never heard of fiberglass spray.

Traditionally, "fiberglass" consists of glass fiber, either in the form of a
woven mat, or a thick muddy mixture of glass and resin.
The resin has two components, much like epoxy. There is a hardener.
The resin contains methyl-ethlyl-ketone, which means it smells very strong
and very bad. I would not do this in a very densely populated city area; you
can get away with it in the suburbs.



DJ TecThreat July 6th 04 07:14 PM

Scoop Bins
 

"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message
...
DJ TecThreat beaniATcharterDOTnetNOSPAM wrote:
"levyte357" wrote in message

My "Sound Guy" I took with me to check them out before buying them,

said
it
would be worthwhile to strip the vinyl, and spray them with fibreglass
resin.


Its a little more than just a spray AFAIK, i used to work for a car audio
shop making enclosers, kick pods, panels, bezels, etc.. out of fiberglass
and there was alot of preparation and mixing involved and if not done

right
it can be a mess, its also very hazzardess your health and is deadly if

the
right precautions arent taken.

Now, dont get discouraged, if you feel you can do it, then i would get
intouch with a fiberglass supply company, i dont know of any in the UK

and
the one where i got my stuff from says they wont ship out of the US.


Take it to a surfboard shop and have them do the work. They do it all day
long, and they don't charge a lot.

My question, though, is whether anyone has tried the spray-on truck bed
liner material. Around here, lots of pickup trucks are driving around

with
this spray-on polymer stuff in the bed, and there are places all over the
place that are applying it. It looks like just the thing to stiffen an

A-7.

Bedliner is good for alot of things, i've actually sprayed an entire vehicle
(offroad truck) and as a theme i sprayed the door panels, kick pods, rear
sub encloser, stereo bezel and panel, crossover/eq panel/rack and amp rack.
Look incredibly cool and had a rough feel to it.

DJ TecThreat
The Real Threat



DJ TecThreat July 6th 04 07:57 PM

Scoop Bins
 

"levyte357" wrote in message
...

"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message
...
DJ TecThreat beaniATcharterDOTnetNOSPAM wrote:
"levyte357" wrote in message

My "Sound Guy" I took with me to check them out before buying them,

said
it
would be worthwhile to strip the vinyl, and spray them with

fibreglass
resin.

Its a little more than just a spray AFAIK, i used to work for a car

audio
shop making enclosers, kick pods, panels, bezels, etc.. out of

fiberglass
and there was alot of preparation and mixing involved and if not done

right
it can be a mess, its also very hazzardess your health and is deadly if

the
right precautions arent taken.

Now, dont get discouraged, if you feel you can do it, then i would get
intouch with a fiberglass supply company, i dont know of any in the UK

and
the one where i got my stuff from says they wont ship out of the US.


Take it to a surfboard shop and have them do the work. They do it all

day
long, and they don't charge a lot.

I made some enquiries about the fibre glass spraying and it seems to be
costly.

Someone on a net forum just suggested painting with hammerite. Would that
waterproof and strengthen, or just waterproof..?


Are the boxes weak? trying to spray something on them to strengthen isnt
going to help in the long run.

DJ TecThreat
The Real Threat



levyte357 July 6th 04 08:47 PM

Scoop Bins
 

"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message
...
DJ TecThreat beaniATcharterDOTnetNOSPAM wrote:
"levyte357" wrote in message

My "Sound Guy" I took with me to check them out before buying them,

said
it
would be worthwhile to strip the vinyl, and spray them with fibreglass
resin.


Its a little more than just a spray AFAIK, i used to work for a car audio
shop making enclosers, kick pods, panels, bezels, etc.. out of fiberglass
and there was alot of preparation and mixing involved and if not done

right
it can be a mess, its also very hazzardess your health and is deadly if

the
right precautions arent taken.

Now, dont get discouraged, if you feel you can do it, then i would get
intouch with a fiberglass supply company, i dont know of any in the UK

and
the one where i got my stuff from says they wont ship out of the US.


Take it to a surfboard shop and have them do the work. They do it all day
long, and they don't charge a lot.

I made some enquiries about the fibre glass spraying and it seems to be
costly.

Someone on a net forum just suggested painting with hammerite. Would that
waterproof and strengthen, or just waterproof..?





Arny Krueger July 6th 04 08:48 PM

Scoop Bins
 
"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message

DJ TecThreat beaniATcharterDOTnetNOSPAM wrote:
"levyte357" wrote in message

My "Sound Guy" I took with me to check them out before buying them,
said it would be worthwhile to strip the vinyl, and spray them
with fibreglass resin.


Its a little more than just a spray AFAIK, i used to work for a car
audio shop making enclosers, kick pods, panels, bezels, etc.. out of
fiberglass and there was alot of preparation and mixing involved and
if not done right it can be a mess, its also very hazzardess your
health and is deadly if the right precautions arent taken.

Now, dont get discouraged, if you feel you can do it, then i would
get intouch with a fiberglass supply company, i dont know of any in
the UK and the one where i got my stuff from says they wont ship out
of the US.


Take it to a surfboard shop and have them do the work. They do it
all day long, and they don't charge a lot.

My question, though, is whether anyone has tried the spray-on truck
bed liner material. Around here, lots of pickup trucks are driving
around with this spray-on polymer stuff in the bed, and there are
places all over the place that are applying it. It looks like just
the thing to stiffen an A-7.


http://www.google.com/groups?selm=df...g .google.com

"I built some monitor wedges a while back with a buddy. He took them
into the local Line-X place. They sprayed them for $60 a box, not
cheap, but worth it. He said sometimes they only charge $40/box,
depends whos working. Another sound company I know had a dozen large
monitors sprayed for $40 each. They have to spray one side then let
it dry and spray the other side, so there is an overlap seam. Some
boxes come out better than others. You might want to see if they can
do one box first to get an idea of how good they are. Even the worst
ones I've seen aren't bad, but it is a bit frustrating when you pay
$60 to get the box finished and its not perfect."



Pooh Bear July 6th 04 11:19 PM

Scoop Bins
 


Scott Dorsey wrote:

snip

My question, though, is whether anyone has tried the spray-on truck bed
liner material. Around here, lots of pickup trucks are driving around with
this spray-on polymer stuff in the bed, and there are places all over the
place that are applying it. It looks like just the thing to stiffen an A-7.


I've heard you mention this truck bed stuff before Scott but I have no idea what
it is. Clearly in the UK it's called something else. The OP's in the UK too btw.

Do you have a link to a supplier ? Would be interesting to see the description
and try and make sense of it.

He's mentioned Hammerite (
http://www.hammerite.com/webapp/wcs/.../Home_Page.jsp ) which
is basically an industrial heavy duty paint with a metallic sheen. It doesn't
have any texture and shiny isn't really what you want !


Graham




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