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StaffBull August 2nd 04 10:41 PM

Valve amps
 
Has anyone any info on the Chinese valve amps floating around on e -bay? I
am thinking of going to valve amplification as I am predominately listening
to more mellow stuff and the hardest thing I listen to is the doors.
It would be powering a set of B&W CDM1 SE's and getting its IP from a
systemdek IIV and a NAD HDCD - currently amped with a NAD C320BEE.

Any advice/info much appreciated - there are no hi fi shops in N Wales with
any valve amps so auditioning is out of the question.



Trevor Wilson August 3rd 04 01:30 AM

Valve amps
 

"StaffBull" wrote in message
...
Has anyone any info on the Chinese valve amps floating around on e -bay? I
am thinking of going to valve amplification as I am predominately

listening
to more mellow stuff and the hardest thing I listen to is the doors.
It would be powering a set of B&W CDM1 SE's and getting its IP from a
systemdek IIV and a NAD HDCD - currently amped with a NAD C320BEE.

Any advice/info much appreciated - there are no hi fi shops in N Wales

with
any valve amps so auditioning is out of the question.


**Would you buy a car without first driving it?
Would you marry a woman without first....(Well, you get the idea)?
Would you buy a tellie without first watching it?
Would you buy *any* audio equipment, without first listening to it?

You get the idea.

Why would you think a valve amp is a good idea, anyway?
Do you think that all valve amps are the same?
Do you think that all SS amps are the same?
Why do you think that people sell stuff on eBay?


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au



Tat Chan August 3rd 04 04:41 AM

Valve amps
 
Trevor Wilson wrote:


**Would you buy a car without first driving it?


well, if you are getting a stock standard Astra/Corolla/Pulsar ...


Would you marry a woman without first....(Well, you get the idea)?


Hmmm ... the people in Regency House and Pride and Prejudice would!
(both shows were shown back to back on the ABC on Sunday night).
Actually, then again, they might not ... I guess I have to watch both
shows till the end to find out!

But then again, valve and SS amps didn't exist back in those days!




Eiron August 3rd 04 10:41 AM

Valve amps
 
Trevor Wilson wrote:


**Would you buy a car without first driving it?


Most people buying a new one do, having tested a demonstration model.

Would you buy a tellie without first watching it?


Most people buying a new one do, having tested a demonstration model.

Would you buy *any* audio equipment, without first listening to it?


Most people buying a new one do, having tested a demonstration model.

Would you marry a woman without first....(Well, you get the idea)?


Does she have a sister?





Dave Plowman (News) August 3rd 04 12:45 PM

Valve amps
 
In article ,
Tat Chan wrote:
**Would you buy a car without first driving it?


well, if you are getting a stock standard Astra/Corolla/Pulsar ...


They are the equivalent of a music centre...

--
*Why isn't 11 pronounced onety one? *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Graham Holloway August 3rd 04 02:17 PM

Valve amps
 


--
Best regards

Graham Holloway
WPS Electronics
(Tel/Fax 0(044)1233 662599)
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Tat Chan wrote:
**Would you buy a car without first driving it?


well, if you are getting a stock standard Astra/Corolla/Pulsar ...


They are the equivalent of a music centre...

--
*Why isn't 11 pronounced onety one? *

Or oneteen?

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.




Stimpy August 3rd 04 02:35 PM

Valve amps
 
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Tat Chan wrote:
**Would you buy a car without first driving it?


well, if you are getting a stock standard Astra/Corolla/Pulsar ...


They are the equivalent of a music centre...


If by that you're trying to suggest the models listed are an 'inferior'
product then you're wrong... They're well made, well engineered mainstream
vehicles designed to appeal to a mass-market looking for well equipped,
comfortable functional transport at an affordable price where core
functionality is more important than image

It would, I suggest, be better to compare them to mass-market audio
separates from manufacturers along the lines of Rotel, NAD and Marantz




Andy Evans August 3rd 04 03:14 PM

Valve amps
 
It all depends on whether you understand circuits a bit and have some soldering
skills. If you do, a Chinese amp may well represent good value for money. But
remember that if you have it shipped from abroad you are in some difficulty
regarding any manufacturing defects such as dry joints etc (which have been
reported). There again, if you are confident with circuits you might as well
build one, which is a different story, or rebuild a Leak amp like the Stereo 20
which are plentiful and £300 -ish. With that you have the benefit of a strong
user group to give you advice and help deal with any
problems.(hjleak@yahoogroups). To get up to speed with circuits, read Morgan
Jones "Valve Amplifiers" which is an excellent guide to the basics.
Now, if you are a novice with valve amps I'd suggest a working model bought in
Britain. Again, a refurbished Leak would be fine, by which I mean that any old
and dodgy resistors, capacitors or valves have been replaced and the amp
certified fully working. For this try ebay or http://www.emporiumhifi.com/ for
instance.
As for having a valve amp - well I haven't been without one for 45 years. And
by one, I mean usually several! Good luck, Andy

=== Andy Evans ===
Visit our Website:- http://www.artsandmedia.com
Audio, music and health pages and interesting links.

Dave Plowman (News) August 3rd 04 03:30 PM

Valve amps
 
In article ,
Stimpy wrote:
**Would you buy a car without first driving it?


well, if you are getting a stock standard Astra/Corolla/Pulsar ...


They are the equivalent of a music centre...


If by that you're trying to suggest the models listed are an 'inferior'
product then you're wrong... They're well made, well engineered
mainstream vehicles designed to appeal to a mass-market looking for well
equipped, comfortable functional transport at an affordable price where
core functionality is more important than image


As is a decent music centre.

It would, I suggest, be better to compare them to mass-market audio
separates from manufacturers along the lines of Rotel, NAD and Marantz


You have to specify what you want with these - they're not a take it or
leave it package like your 'stock' Astra, etc.

--
*I can see your point, but I still think you're full of ****.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Stimpy August 3rd 04 04:02 PM

Valve amps
 
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

It would, I suggest, be better to compare them to mass-market audio
separates from manufacturers along the lines of Rotel, NAD and
Marantz


You have to specify what you want with these - they're not a take it
or leave it package like your 'stock' Astra, etc.


This comment confuses me. Can you explain what you mean by "You have to
specify what you want with these" in relation to Rotel/NAD/Marantz kit?

Almost no mass-market production car on the market these days is a 'take it
or leave it' product; even the 'stock' Astra (currently the 1.6 Envoy) comes
with an options list. Some of these a factory fit and are incorporated into
the vehicle at build; others are dealer fit and are added by the dealer
before delivery.

Do NAD provide a similar options list for each of their individual models?
I think not, you buy the amp you want directly from the catalogue/dealer and
you receive that model - NAD or the dealer don't offer factory fit or dealer
fit options to modify the product.





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