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The old headphones question.



 
 
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Old August 13th 04, 01:43 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Mike Gilmour
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Default The old headphones question.


"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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tony sayer wrote:
Ever heard the colouration on a pair of Beyer DT100's?...


It's difficult to explain why you might want to use something apparently
not of the finest possible quality for monitoring use, but despite trying
most, I still like the DT 100s.

LS 3/5a is a prime example. It may have a restricted and slightly tubby
bass, but anything that sounds fine on those is likely to be very
acceptable on anything else. Balancing on speakers with a 'larger than
life' sound is likely to result in poor overall results for everyone else.

However, I never use cans for pleasure purposes. Hate the bl***y things.

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Some folk get used to the ubiquitous DT100 like an old friend, especially
that 'feel' if you're doing something like broadcasting. They're robust and
when they get mangled in the studio environment (which they most certainly
do frequently) then spare parts are readily available, ensuring rapid
repair. Unless you carry your own phones in such use you'll find the last
broadcaster with a bigger head (!) has sprung the headband out so when you
lean forward they feel like their about to slide off unless you bend it
back!!...time for new headband I suspect. Personally I prefered Sony's
(closed back) but who am I to knock an institution.

Mike


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Old August 13th 04, 02:15 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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Default The old headphones question.

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Mike Gilmour wrote:
Some folk get used to the ubiquitous DT100 like an old friend,
especially that 'feel' if you're doing something like broadcasting.
They're robust and when they get mangled in the studio environment
(which they most certainly do frequently) then spare parts are readily
available, ensuring rapid repair. Unless you carry your own phones in
such use you'll find the last broadcaster with a bigger head (!) has
sprung the headband out so when you lean forward they feel like their
about to slide off unless you bend it back!!...time for new headband I
suspect. Personally I prefered Sony's (closed back) but who am I to
knock an institution.


Yes - of course they're commonly used for 'talkback' in a studio rather
than critical applications. The fact that they are available in a variety
of impedances and with or without mic makes them very attractive from the
maintenance view - many spares are common to all types. So they'll get
used for other perhaps more critical apps like muso cans too.

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Old August 13th 04, 01:26 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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Default The old headphones question.

In article ,
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Ever heard the colouration on a pair of Beyer DT100's?...


It's difficult to explain why you might want to use something apparently
not of the finest possible quality for monitoring use, but despite trying
most, I still like the DT 100s.


I meant, of course DT48s.

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Old August 13th 04, 01:50 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Mike Gilmour
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Default The old headphones question.


"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Ever heard the colouration on a pair of Beyer DT100's?...


It's difficult to explain why you might want to use something apparently
not of the finest possible quality for monitoring use, but despite

trying
most, I still like the DT 100s.


I meant, of course DT48s.

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Ah I was beginning to wonder - there's me being rather polite in my last
posting ;-)

Mike


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Old August 13th 04, 01:25 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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Default The old headphones question.

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tony sayer wrote:
Ever heard the colouration on a pair of Beyer DT100's?...


But were they ever sold as domestic units? They're commonly just
reasonable quality general quality pro units that can at least be repaired
when trashed.

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Old August 13th 04, 10:02 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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Default The old headphones question.



tony sayer wrote:

Ever heard the colouration on a pair of Beyer DT100's?...


Most I've heard sound quite 'muddy' to me - but that may be because they get
totally thrashed and abused in their intended application.

Not a pair of headphones I'd suggest for home listening.


Graham


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Old August 12th 04, 06:39 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Andy Hewitt
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Default The old headphones question.

Pooh Bear wrote:

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Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any decent hi-fi shops around
here locally (Durham) to go and try some out (unless someone knows
different). Although IMHO, it seems a bit pointless testing headphones
that haven't been 'broken in' anyway.


It's fairly accepted that heavy duty ( eg PA type ) speakers can be 'broken
in' with a few hours 'conditioning' with the result of a lower resonant
frequency but I've never heard the claim made of headphones - nor can I
think of a rational reason why they should need such conditioing.


There are a *lot* of reviewers out there that would disagree. I'm not
disputing you, but there seems to be considerable mentions of this
nonetheless.

Names like Technics, Koss and Sennheiser are also some I've looked at,
in partcilular the Sennheiser HD497.


Beyers are nice too - I have a pair currently.

I think the only Koss headphones around now are the Chinese PRO4AA 'copies'.
Very heavy. The ear seal makes for stunning ( literally sometimes ) bass
though.

Sennheisers and Beyers tend to much favoured by pros. AKG make some good
stuff too. Seems to be an area where the European manufacturers seem to have
an edge.


Yes, some of the AKG's had good reports. Sennheisers don't seem to match
the Grado's at the same price level.

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Old August 12th 04, 08:04 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
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Default The old headphones question.

Andy Hewitt wrote:
Hi chaps, Haven't posted here for a while, but here goes. I have
checked out Google, and not much help there on this.

snip
Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any decent hi-fi shops around
here locally (Durham) to go and try some out (unless someone knows
different). Although IMHO, it seems a bit pointless testing headphones
that haven't been 'broken in' anyway.

Names like Technics, Koss and Sennheiser are also some I've looked at,
in partcilular the Sennheiser HD497.

Looking for some inspiriation here.

Cheers.


If you go to hi fi choice forum look for a user call ROSSOred

or contact him via web site http://www.rosso-audio.4t.com/

Tell him davewhit2 sent you

might get your Grado SR60 at your budget price

He has in the past done the top of the range for about £500


regards


Dave xxxx
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Old August 12th 04, 06:39 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Andy Hewitt
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Default The old headphones question.

Dave xxxxx wrote:

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If you go to hi fi choice forum look for a user call ROSSOred

or contact him via web site http://www.rosso-audio.4t.com/

Tell him davewhit2 sent you

might get your Grado SR60 at your budget price

He has in the past done the top of the range for about £500


Many thanks for that, email sent.

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Old August 13th 04, 09:22 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Andy Hewitt
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Default The old headphones question.

Dave xxxxx wrote:

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If you go to hi fi choice forum look for a user call ROSSOred

or contact him via web site http://www.rosso-audio.4t.com/

Tell him davewhit2 sent you

might get your Grado SR60 at your budget price


Absolutely he did, I ordered a pair off him last night. He even did the
sale up to midnight impressed.

Cheers.

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http://www.thehewitts.plus.com - now online
 




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