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The old headphones question.



 
 
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Old August 13th 04, 01:26 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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Default The old headphones question.

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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Ever heard the colouration on a pair of Beyer DT100's?...


It's difficult to explain why you might want to use something apparently
not of the finest possible quality for monitoring use, but despite trying
most, I still like the DT 100s.


I meant, of course DT48s.

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Old August 13th 04, 01:43 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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Default The old headphones question.


"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
tony sayer wrote:
Ever heard the colouration on a pair of Beyer DT100's?...


It's difficult to explain why you might want to use something apparently
not of the finest possible quality for monitoring use, but despite trying
most, I still like the DT 100s.

LS 3/5a is a prime example. It may have a restricted and slightly tubby
bass, but anything that sounds fine on those is likely to be very
acceptable on anything else. Balancing on speakers with a 'larger than
life' sound is likely to result in poor overall results for everyone else.

However, I never use cans for pleasure purposes. Hate the bl***y things.

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Some folk get used to the ubiquitous DT100 like an old friend, especially
that 'feel' if you're doing something like broadcasting. They're robust and
when they get mangled in the studio environment (which they most certainly
do frequently) then spare parts are readily available, ensuring rapid
repair. Unless you carry your own phones in such use you'll find the last
broadcaster with a bigger head (!) has sprung the headband out so when you
lean forward they feel like their about to slide off unless you bend it
back!!...time for new headband I suspect. Personally I prefered Sony's
(closed back) but who am I to knock an institution.

Mike


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Old August 13th 04, 01:50 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Mike Gilmour
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Default The old headphones question.


"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Ever heard the colouration on a pair of Beyer DT100's?...


It's difficult to explain why you might want to use something apparently
not of the finest possible quality for monitoring use, but despite

trying
most, I still like the DT 100s.


I meant, of course DT48s.

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Ah I was beginning to wonder - there's me being rather polite in my last
posting ;-)

Mike


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Old August 13th 04, 02:15 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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Default The old headphones question.

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Mike Gilmour wrote:
Some folk get used to the ubiquitous DT100 like an old friend,
especially that 'feel' if you're doing something like broadcasting.
They're robust and when they get mangled in the studio environment
(which they most certainly do frequently) then spare parts are readily
available, ensuring rapid repair. Unless you carry your own phones in
such use you'll find the last broadcaster with a bigger head (!) has
sprung the headband out so when you lean forward they feel like their
about to slide off unless you bend it back!!...time for new headband I
suspect. Personally I prefered Sony's (closed back) but who am I to
knock an institution.


Yes - of course they're commonly used for 'talkback' in a studio rather
than critical applications. The fact that they are available in a variety
of impedances and with or without mic makes them very attractive from the
maintenance view - many spares are common to all types. So they'll get
used for other perhaps more critical apps like muso cans too.

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Old August 13th 04, 03:20 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Mike Gilmour
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Default The old headphones question.


"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Mike Gilmour wrote:
Some folk get used to the ubiquitous DT100 like an old friend,
especially that 'feel' if you're doing something like broadcasting.
They're robust and when they get mangled in the studio environment
(which they most certainly do frequently) then spare parts are readily
available, ensuring rapid repair. Unless you carry your own phones in
such use you'll find the last broadcaster with a bigger head (!) has
sprung the headband out so when you lean forward they feel like their
about to slide off unless you bend it back!!...time for new headband I
suspect. Personally I prefered Sony's (closed back) but who am I to
knock an institution.


Yes - of course they're commonly used for 'talkback' in a studio rather
than critical applications. The fact that they are available in a variety
of impedances and with or without mic makes them very attractive from the
maintenance view - many spares are common to all types. So they'll get
used for other perhaps more critical apps like muso cans too.

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If I remember impedances 8 ohms through 2K. I know them as widely used at
Radio Stations as radio presenters/guests headphones - but not as you say
for critical applications. With mics on OB and studio - studio talkback
Always sounded a bit wooly & muffled to me but sort of okay for on-air
monitoring or pfl apps.
Mike


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Old August 13th 04, 10:02 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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tony sayer wrote:

Ever heard the colouration on a pair of Beyer DT100's?...


Most I've heard sound quite 'muddy' to me - but that may be because they get
totally thrashed and abused in their intended application.

Not a pair of headphones I'd suggest for home listening.


Graham


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Old August 15th 04, 01:43 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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Default The old headphones question.

Spiderant wrote:
But other than price, the Grados do have another advantage: Unlike the
Sennheiser HD 580s, the Grados are low impedance (32 ohms as opposed to 300
for the Sennheisers) which makes them easy to run off of portable CD units.
Most of the newer model portable cd players don't put out the same volume as
older players (to conserve battery life?) and seem to need more sensitive
headphones.


It's an EU directive thing. Instigated by the French, I'm told.

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Old August 15th 04, 04:19 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Woody
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Default The old headphones question.


"nsj" wrote in message
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Spiderant wrote:
But other than price, the Grados do have another advantage: Unlike the
Sennheiser HD 580s, the Grados are low impedance (32 ohms as opposed to

300
for the Sennheisers) which makes them easy to run off of portable CD

units.
Most of the newer model portable cd players don't put out the same

volume as
older players (to conserve battery life?) and seem to need more

sensitive
headphones.


It's an EU directive thing. Instigated by the French, I'm told.


............presumably as the French do not manufacture headphones?


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Old August 15th 04, 11:32 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Pooh Bear
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Default The old headphones question.



nsj wrote:

Spiderant wrote:
But other than price, the Grados do have another advantage: Unlike the
Sennheiser HD 580s, the Grados are low impedance (32 ohms as opposed to 300
for the Sennheisers) which makes them easy to run off of portable CD units.
Most of the newer model portable cd players don't put out the same volume as
older players (to conserve battery life?) and seem to need more sensitive
headphones.


It's an EU directive thing. Instigated by the French, I'm told.


Uh ?

What's an EU directive thing ?


Graham

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Old August 16th 04, 11:11 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Eiron
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Default The old headphones question.

Pooh Bear wrote:


nsj wrote:


Spiderant wrote:

But other than price, the Grados do have another advantage: Unlike the
Sennheiser HD 580s, the Grados are low impedance (32 ohms as opposed to 300
for the Sennheisers) which makes them easy to run off of portable CD units.
Most of the newer model portable cd players don't put out the same volume as
older players (to conserve battery life?) and seem to need more sensitive
headphones.


It's an EU directive thing. Instigated by the French, I'm told.



Uh ?

What's an EU directive thing ?


The EU is like the mafia and runs Europe.
A directive is like an offer you can't refuse.

In the case of the iPOD, I'm told that you can download
EU spec firmware which restricts the audio output power
or US firmware which doesn't.
 




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