Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 11:08:26 +0200, Sander deWaal
wrote:


Stewart Pinkerton said:


What you need is a BMW rear wheel drive, much more fun to play with.

I live in the country, with muddy roads at this time of year. Too many
3-series cluttering the ditches for my taste................

Ok, make that an X-5 ;-)


Blech, just can't stand anything with the taint of Bangle about it!
Besides, I live up a lane, and nobody would let me out if I drove a
Beemer. No problem with either of the Audis!


whats the problem with lanes and Beemers?

On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 09:14:35 +1000, Tat Chan
wrote:

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 11:08:26 +0200, Sander deWaal
wrote:


Stewart Pinkerton said:


What you need is a BMW rear wheel drive, much more fun to play with.

I live in the country, with muddy roads at this time of year. Too many
3-series cluttering the ditches for my taste................

Ok, make that an X-5 ;-)


Blech, just can't stand anything with the taint of Bangle about it!
Besides, I live up a lane, and nobody would let me out if I drove a
Beemer. No problem with either of the Audis!

whats the problem with lanes and Beemers?

Most 3-series drivers are aggressive assholes, hence people carve them
up at every opportunity. As a result, if you are sitting in almost any
Beemer at the end of a lane waiting to turn right onto the main road
in rush hour, no one is going to let you out. OTOH, I am an aggressive
hooligan who drives an Audi, and I never have to wait more than two or
three cars to be waved out.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 09:14:35 +1000, Tat Chan
wrote:


Stewart Pinkerton wrote:


Blech, just can't stand anything with the taint of Bangle about it!
Besides, I live up a lane, and nobody would let me out if I drove a
Beemer. No problem with either of the Audis!

whats the problem with lanes and Beemers?


Most 3-series drivers are aggressive assholes,

oooh ... that is a very sweeping statement. Or is it because it is
usually yuppies who drive them? "Look at me, I have just taken another
step up the corporate ladder".

What about people driving the new 1-series then?

hence people carve them up at every opportunity.

what happened to the polite, reserved British nature?


OTOH, I am an aggressive
hooligan who drives an Audi, and I never have to wait more than two or
three cars to be waved out.

Vorsprung Durch Technik, eh?


Getting OT here (as always!), I have noticed that Orientals tend to
flash their wealth about ... so anyone in a Beemer doesn't get lip, but
in a way are almost respected. Though Mercedes Benzes are more popular
among the Chinese than Beemers ...

Though in Oz, the term "******" tends to be used for people who drive
Beemers (or maybe even European cars in general!)

In article ,
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
Most 3-series drivers are aggressive assholes, hence people carve them
up at every opportunity.

Perhaps that's what makes them so aggressive? And I don't have a
3 Series. ;-)

As a result, if you are sitting in almost any Beemer at the end of a
lane waiting to turn right onto the main road in rush hour, no one is
going to let you out. OTOH, I am an aggressive hooligan who drives an
Audi, and I never have to wait more than two or three cars to be waved
out.

They must still be a rarity in your part of the world. In London they're
so common that they're just another car. 4X4s are treated as the new
BMW...

--
*What do little birdies see when they get knocked unconscious? *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Tat Chan" wrote in message
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Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 09:14:35 +1000, Tat Chan
wrote:


Stewart Pinkerton wrote:


Blech, just can't stand anything with the taint of Bangle about it!
Besides, I live up a lane, and nobody would let me out if I drove a
Beemer. No problem with either of the Audis!

whats the problem with lanes and Beemers?


Most 3-series drivers are aggressive assholes,

oooh ... that is a very sweeping statement. Or is it because it is usually
yuppies who drive them? "Look at me, I have just taken another step up the
corporate ladder".


Most definitely not - a Series 3 BMW (once common as muck, now disappearing
hearabouts) is no 'status symbol' these days in the UK!

I took a (no longer young but smart) 316 on 3-spoke alloys in lieu of a
refund a year or 3 ago and felt such a tit driving it that I gave it to my
youngest son. He kept it for at least 3 months before swapping for a Vauhall
estate (Astra?). My current car (very 'ordinaire' but a bit of a 'loup dans
l'habillement de mouton' ;-) would eat it (and most other Teutonic
****maschinen) in all respects: speed, acceleration, braking, handling,
ride, and comfort....

Which makes me realise, interestingly, I have never given a thought about
replacing it whic is probably just as well because I don't really have the
funds atm! - I grabbed it off my brother when he was going to p/x it for
chump change. It was mint then (not quite so mint now! :-) and had had a
very easy life, wot with him being an engineer an' all! For instance, I
recently did St Neots to Dundee in 6 hours and 1 minute (overnight) - that's
a steady 4,000rpm/90mph *all* the way with one quick stop for gas and 6.5
hours back the next night, fully laden (to the roof) with bits and bob's
including a stone birdbath! (Only took the extra half hour as I tried, in
vain, to keep it down to 70 and gave up by the time we had reached
Edinburgh!!

(Pinky thinks I drive a Rover!! - See 'Ronin' Ch.14 for a clue, albeit of an
earlier incarnation.... ;-)


what happened to the polite, reserved British nature?


That'd be *English* not 'British' - there's a big difference!!

;-)

"Tat Chan" wrote


Getting OT here (as always!),


Don't worry abiut it, Tat - OT posts are a lot more interesting than no
posts at all!!


I have noticed that Orientals tend to flash their wealth about


So would we - if we had any!! :-)


... so anyone in a Beemer doesn't get lip, but
in a way are almost respected. Though Mercedes Benzes are more popular
among the Chinese than Beemers ...


That's because they've got better taste....



Though in Oz, the term "******" tends to be used for people who drive
Beemers (or maybe even European cars in general!)


In the UK, that terms covers pretty much *every other* road user..... :-)

On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 17:38:00 +1000, Tat Chan
wrote:

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 09:14:35 +1000, Tat Chan
wrote:

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:


Blech, just can't stand anything with the taint of Bangle about it!
Besides, I live up a lane, and nobody would let me out if I drove a
Beemer. No problem with either of the Audis!

whats the problem with lanes and Beemers?

Most 3-series drivers are aggressive assholes,

oooh ... that is a very sweeping statement. Or is it because it is
usually yuppies who drive them? "Look at me, I have just taken another
step up the corporate ladder".

You're getting the idea! I did say most, not all. There's a 62-year
old farmer in our village who has a 330i coupe which he drives in a
courteous manner, but he's not yer average 3-series driver!

What about people driving the new 1-series then?

Bizarre? Don't understand packaging? Desperate to own a Beemer? :-)

hence people carve them up at every opportunity.

what happened to the polite, reserved British nature?

Road rage...............

OTOH, I am an aggressive
hooligan who drives an Audi, and I never have to wait more than two or
three cars to be waved out.

Vorsprung Durch Technik, eh?

Indeed. ASR, ESP, ABS, 5-valve, quad cam, quattro............

Getting OT here (as always!), I have noticed that Orientals tend to
flash their wealth about ... so anyone in a Beemer doesn't get lip, but
in a way are almost respected. Though Mercedes Benzes are more popular
among the Chinese than Beemers ...

Though in Oz, the term "******" tends to be used for people who drive
Beemers (or maybe even European cars in general!)

Shouldn't that be people who drive the Mazda RX-8? :-)
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Kurt Hamster wrote:
On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 22:30:15 +0100, Ian Molton used
to say...


Kurt Hamster wrote:


Surely the ideal amp is the one that does what you want at the price you
can afford?

Since when were ideal and best the same thing ?


So you are suggesting they can't be the same thing then?

No, I'm not.

However I am saying that one does not *imply* the other.

Keith G wrote:

"Tat Chan" wrote in message
...

oooh ... that is a very sweeping statement. Or is it because it is usually
yuppies who drive them? "Look at me, I have just taken another step up the
corporate ladder".

Most definitely not - a Series 3 BMW (once common as muck, now disappearing
hearabouts) is no 'status symbol' these days in the UK!

Damn, Beemers must be cheaper over in Europe than in Oz! Over here, a 3 series
is still a status symbol!


I took a (no longer young but smart) 316 on 3-spoke alloys in lieu of a
refund a year or 3 ago and felt such a tit driving it that I gave it to my
youngest son. He kept it for at least 3 months before swapping for a Vauhall
estate (Astra?).

a 316 would be quite underpowered, wouldn't it? I have driven a Holden Astra
(Opel Astra in Europe?). Thank goodness it was an auto, I'm used to the Japanese
style gearbox style. It took me a while to get used to the instruments in the
Astra (had to read the damn manual!) and the reversed positions of the
windscreen wiper switch and indicators!


My current car (very 'ordinaire' but a bit of a 'loup dans
l'habillement de mouton' ;-)

a what? Sorry, I never did French in school!

would eat it (and most other Teutonic
****maschinen) in all respects: speed, acceleration, braking, handling,
ride, and comfort....



(Pinky thinks I drive a Rover!! - See 'Ronin' Ch.14 for a clue, albeit of an
earlier incarnation.... ;-)

Ah, Rovers get the stigma of public school rugby types and rich stay at home
mums here ... (or that could be my imagination working overtime)



what happened to the polite, reserved British nature?



That'd be *English* not 'British' - there's a big difference!!

;-)



Ah, so the stereotypes would be ...

Polite, reserved English
Fiery Scots/Welsh?

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 17:38:00 +1000, Tat Chan
wrote:


Stewart Pinkerton wrote:




You're getting the idea! I did say most, not all. There's a 62-year
old farmer in our village who has a 330i coupe which he drives in a
courteous manner, but he's not yer average 3-series driver!



farmer .. village ... I guess the 330i would be his weekend car, I get the
impression you need a 4WD on a farm!


What about people driving the new 1-series then?

Bizarre? Don't understand packaging? Desperate to own a Beemer? :-)


I don't think they look that bad. They have just be launched in Oz.