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Good amps all sound the same do they?



 
 
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Old October 11th 04, 04:15 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Tat Chan
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Default Good amps all sound the same do they?

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

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Wally wrote:

the opinion you hear hear is that all *COMPETANT* amps sound the same
- that is, all amps, able to drive enough current into the load to
accurately replicate the input signal on the output terminals, will
sound identical.



That sounds rather tautological to me.



Sadly, it's not. You'd be amazed what tricks some 'respected' makers get
up to to make their amps sound 'different' and therefore 'better' at a
simple audition. But these are easily measured. Which is why some of the
more esoteric mags don't like lab tests.


What other esoteric mags are there? Stereophile publishes measurements,
and HFN&RR probably does (haven't seen a copy for a while, the recent
ones at my newsagent were sealed).

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Old October 11th 04, 07:10 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Stewart Pinkerton
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Default Good amps all sound the same do they?

On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:15:45 +1000, Tat Chan
wrote:

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
Wally wrote:

the opinion you hear hear is that all *COMPETANT* amps sound the same
- that is, all amps, able to drive enough current into the load to
accurately replicate the input signal on the output terminals, will
sound identical.



That sounds rather tautological to me.



Sadly, it's not. You'd be amazed what tricks some 'respected' makers get
up to to make their amps sound 'different' and therefore 'better' at a
simple audition. But these are easily measured. Which is why some of the
more esoteric mags don't like lab tests.

What other esoteric mags are there? Stereophile publishes measurements,
and HFN&RR probably does (haven't seen a copy for a while, the recent
ones at my newsagent were sealed).


The Absolute Sound, Hi-Fi+, UHF, for some. Sterophile and HFN are the
daddies of all mainstream mags, certainly not 'esoteric'.

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Old October 11th 04, 08:09 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Tat Chan
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Default Good amps all sound the same do they?

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:15:45 +1000, Tat Chan
wrote:


Dave Plowman (News) wrote:




Sadly, it's not. You'd be amazed what tricks some 'respected' makers get
up to to make their amps sound 'different' and therefore 'better' at a
simple audition. But these are easily measured. Which is why some of the
more esoteric mags don't like lab tests.


What other esoteric mags are there? Stereophile publishes measurements,
and HFN&RR probably does (haven't seen a copy for a while, the recent
ones at my newsagent were sealed).



The Absolute Sound, Hi-Fi+, UHF, for some. Sterophile and HFN are the
daddies of all mainstream mags, certainly not 'esoteric'.


I have seen the TAS at my newsagent from time to time.

Btw, I think Stereophile is esoteric compared to What Hi Fi and Hi Fi
Choice!
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Old October 11th 04, 04:30 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Stewart Pinkerton
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Default Good amps all sound the same do they?

On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 18:09:38 +1000, Tat Chan
wrote:

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:15:45 +1000, Tat Chan
wrote:


What other esoteric mags are there? Stereophile publishes measurements,
and HFN&RR probably does (haven't seen a copy for a while, the recent
ones at my newsagent were sealed).


The Absolute Sound, Hi-Fi+, UHF, for some. Sterophile and HFN are the
daddies of all mainstream mags, certainly not 'esoteric'.

I have seen the TAS at my newsagent from time to time.

Btw, I think Stereophile is esoteric compared to What Hi Fi and Hi Fi
Choice!


What Hi-Fi certainly, but Hi-Fi Choice often goes pretty upmarket -
although not generally above £10k, to be sure. Mind you, you'd expect
some similarities in style between HFN and S'pile, as S'pile's editor
used to edit HFN.
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Old October 11th 04, 08:18 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Jim Lesurf
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Default Good amps all sound the same do they?

In article , Tat Chan
wrote:


What other esoteric mags are there? Stereophile publishes measurements,
and HFN&RR probably does (haven't seen a copy for a while, the recent
ones at my newsagent were sealed).


HFN does both 'auditions' (no real measurements) and 'lab tests'.

Slainte,

Jim

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