Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

There's a fair amount of evidence to show that the 'Miller' effect was
first documented by Blumlein, here in the UK.


As with almost everything else related to audio............

FYI...

http://web.mit.edu/klund/www/papers/jmiller.pdf

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Nick

On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 21:23:06 +0000, Nick Gorham
wrote:

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

There's a fair amount of evidence to show that the 'Miller' effect was
first documented by Blumlein, here in the UK.


As with almost everything else related to audio............

FYI...

http://web.mit.edu/klund/www/papers/jmiller.pdf

That would seem to predate Blumlein's work. Also see

http://www.doramusic.com/patents/505480.htm from 1937,

wherein Blumlein refers to "the well-known 'Miller' effect". I doubt
that any scientist in history has given credit to another if he
reckoned that he thought of it first.........

Ah well, I guess Blumlein can't have invented *everything*! :-)

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"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
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On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 21:23:06 +0000, Nick Gorham
wrote:

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

There's a fair amount of evidence to show that the 'Miller' effect was
first documented by Blumlein, here in the UK.


As with almost everything else related to audio............

FYI...

http://web.mit.edu/klund/www/papers/jmiller.pdf

That would seem to predate Blumlein's work. Also see

http://www.doramusic.com/patents/505480.htm from 1937,

wherein Blumlein refers to "the well-known 'Miller' effect". I doubt
that any scientist in history has given credit to another if he
reckoned that he thought of it first.........

Ah well, I guess Blumlein can't have invented *everything*! :-)



With 128 patents to his name then he had a damn good go...
Read all about it at www.doramusic.com/patents.htm
Luvly site but you can spend the whole week there :-)

Mike

*God made the 807*

Hi,

In message , Mike Gilmour
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"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
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On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 21:23:06 +0000, Nick Gorham
wrote:
Ah well, I guess Blumlein can't have invented *everything*! :-)



With 128 patents to his name then he had a damn good go...
Read all about it at www.doramusic.com/patents.htm
Luvly site but you can spend the whole week there :-)

Good site. For those interested, the biography of Blumlein by Robert
Charles Alexander is a good read, if a little technical for some people.
I'm about half way through it. Blumlein was a *very* busy chap!

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Regards,
Glenn Booth

On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 23:01:42 +0000, Kurt Hamster
wrote:

On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 07:04:04 +0000 (UTC), Stewart Pinkerton used
to say...

On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 02:31:15 +0000, Kurt Hamster
wrote:

On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 19:07:59 +0000 (UTC), Stewart Pinkerton used
to say...

On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:24:19 +0300, "Iain M Churches"
wrote:

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
om...
A case of direct experience or hearsay Pinky?

Hearsay from real cutting engineers, such as the guys at Linn Records.

Come on Stewart:-) Get yourself out of that print room and get some real
hands-on experience in audio engineering. If you have the motivation,
it is still not too late.

I have about forty years worth of hands-on experience in audio
*engineering*, you appear to have about none, or at least have
*learned* nothing from what little experience you do have. Being a
fader jockey isn't *engineering*, y'know...............

So you say but in actual fact there is little proof beyond your say so.

Just look at Churches posts for proof of his lack of technical
expertise. If you're referring to mine, I would (a) point you to my CV
and (b) wonder how *you* could tell the difference.......... :-)

Personally I believe Iain.

Belief is not knowledge.

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't a CV something that is self penned?

Indeed it is - but it can always be checked.

A bit like your assertions on Usenet really!

See above............... :-)
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On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 02:48:08 +0000, Kurt Hamster
wrote:

On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 21:21:33 +0000 (UTC), Stewart Pinkerton used
to say...

On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 23:01:42 +0000, Kurt Hamster
wrote:

Personally I believe Iain.

Belief is not knowledge.

It certainly sounds like he has more than you in the area you chose to
challenge him on though. Perhaps that's why you gave him such a hard
time. You were in danger of someone demonstrating you to be the bull****
artist many believe you to be.

I merely pointed out where he was making claims which ran quite
contrary to what many other cutting engineers have said. Interesting
that he then began personal attacks. Which of us went defensive?

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't a CV something that is self penned?

Indeed it is - but it can always be checked.

But rarely is. Something many people bank on...

Not in my Bank! :-)

A bit like your assertions on Usenet really!

See above............... :-)

See above...............

The thing about all my 'assertions' is that they *can* be readily
checked, and I always invite people to try it for themselves. Iain is
the one who keeps dropping names and demanding that people simply
accept his authority, not me.
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"Kurt Hamster" wrote


Many? Let's have it right, you said you had a cutting engineer mate
round for afternoon tea (paraphrased). So basically you are confronting
Iain's assertions based on hearsay from someone else.

As for the personal attacks, well you started them almost from the
beginning as soon as it started to look like you were being made shown
to be a bull****ter.


:-)


Iain was courteous right the way down the line.


:-)


So publish your CV either here or on a website (I'll gladly host it for
you) so that we can all check up on it.

There was one question Iain asked where your lack of reply was
particularly noticeable, i.e. which university supplied your
qualifications as he couldn't find any Angus Stewart Pinkerton as
receiving any sort of degree.


:-) again....


Ho hum.......

Keith G wrote:


There was one question Iain asked where your lack of reply was
particularly noticeable, i.e. which university supplied your
qualifications as he couldn't find any Angus Stewart Pinkerton as
receiving any sort of degree.


Just for my personal gratification, how would one go about checking if a
named individual has a university degree? Surely not google??

Ian

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Ian Bell

On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 00:53:46 -0000, "Mike Gilmour"
wrote:

And note that it was the puffed-up valvie Churches who mentioned the
Miller effect in the first
place.

Iain Churches is an experienced engineer who still works in the record
industry, why do you persist in maligning him so?

Referring to him as a puffed-up valvie is simply descriptive, not
malignant.
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Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 13:12:28 +0000, Kurt Hamster
wrote:

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 07:03:41 +0000 (UTC), Stewart Pinkerton used
to say...

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 02:48:08 +0000, Kurt Hamster
wrote:

On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 21:21:33 +0000 (UTC), Stewart Pinkerton used
to say...

On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 23:01:42 +0000, Kurt Hamster
wrote:

Personally I believe Iain.

Belief is not knowledge.

It certainly sounds like he has more than you in the area you chose to
challenge him on though. Perhaps that's why you gave him such a hard
time. You were in danger of someone demonstrating you to be the bull****
artist many believe you to be.

I merely pointed out where he was making claims which ran quite
contrary to what many other cutting engineers have said. Interesting
that he then began personal attacks. Which of us went defensive?

Many? Let's have it right, you said you had a cutting engineer mate
round for afternoon tea (paraphrased). So basically you are confronting
Iain's assertions based on hearsay from someone else.

That was one 'direct from the horse's mouth' occasion, there have also
been articles written by the engineers at Linn Records. You think they
weren't able to get the best from vinyl?

As for the personal attacks, well you started them almost from the
beginning as soon as it started to look like you were being made shown
to be a bull****ter. Iain was courteous right the way down the line.

Yeah, riiiight, hence all the references to 'the print room', right?

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't a CV something that is self penned?

Indeed it is - but it can always be checked.

But rarely is. Something many people bank on...

Not in my Bank! :-)

So publish your CV either here or on a website (I'll gladly host it for
you) so that we can all check up on it.

I doubt it would be of great interest to an audio group, although
Albert 'von' Schweikert did once offer me consultancy work. I turned
it down when it became obvious that a condition of the contract would
be that I stopped slagging off his Usenet posts!

There was one question Iain asked where your lack of reply was
particularly noticeable, i.e. which university supplied your
qualifications as he couldn't find any Angus Stewart Pinkerton as
receiving any sort of degree.

He didn't look very hard...................... Clue, I started off
doing psychology in Scotland, before realising what a dirty game it
was as a career, and switched to electronics.

Besides which, I have always maintained that calls to personal
authority indicate a weak argument.

The thing about all my 'assertions' is that they *can* be readily
checked, and I always invite people to try it for themselves. Iain is
the one who keeps dropping names and demanding that people simply
accept his authority, not me.

So, pray tell, how do we check up those legendary 'interactions' with
old Ivor then?

Ask Ivor - he'll remember. And his is a name I'd never 'drop' in
polite company..................
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