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Welly October 20th 04 05:11 PM

Strata v Quake - A Considered Opinion Sought
 
Scenario:
Denon AVR-2805 driving Monitor Audio R90 L, R & Surrounds; R180 Centre; plus
REL Strata (original 60W version) subwoofer in 3m X 4m listening room.
Source material is Music and Movies from Pioneer DV-656A.
Question:
Would it sound better if I replace the Strata with a Quake?
TIA,
Welly.



Keith G October 20th 04 05:24 PM

Strata v Quake - A Considered Opinion Sought
 

"Welly" wrote in message
...
Scenario:
Denon AVR-2805 driving Monitor Audio R90 L, R & Surrounds; R180 Centre;
plus REL Strata (original 60W version) subwoofer in 3m X 4m listening
room. Source material is Music and Movies from Pioneer DV-656A.
Question:
Would it sound better if I replace the Strata with a Quake?
TIA,
Welly.



I have recently been informed (by one who 'knows') that the 'Ss' beat the
'Qs' when it comes to REL subs.....



Nath October 20th 04 05:28 PM

Strata v Quake - A Considered Opinion Sought
 

"Welly" wrote in message
...
Scenario:
Denon AVR-2805 driving Monitor Audio R90 L, R & Surrounds; R180 Centre;
plus REL Strata (original 60W version) subwoofer in 3m X 4m listening
room. Source material is Music and Movies from Pioneer DV-656A.
Question:
Would it sound better if I replace the Strata with a Quake?
TIA,
Welly.



No. If you want to upgrade consider the Storm or better. Although I think
Rel are overpriced, and underperform for HT use.



Iain Miller October 20th 04 05:38 PM

Strata v Quake - A Considered Opinion Sought
 

"Welly" wrote in message
...
Scenario:
Denon AVR-2805 driving Monitor Audio R90 L, R & Surrounds; R180 Centre;

plus
REL Strata (original 60W version) subwoofer in 3m X 4m listening room.
Source material is Music and Movies from Pioneer DV-656A.
Question:
Would it sound better if I replace the Strata with a Quake?


A Storm III would probably be the right upgrade for that system. Had mine
for 3 years & still like it a lot.

rgds

I.



Nath October 20th 04 11:44 PM

Strata v Quake - A Considered Opinion Sought
 

"Iain Miller" wrote in message
...

"Welly" wrote in message
...
Scenario:
Denon AVR-2805 driving Monitor Audio R90 L, R & Surrounds; R180 Centre;

plus
REL Strata (original 60W version) subwoofer in 3m X 4m listening room.
Source material is Music and Movies from Pioneer DV-656A.
Question:
Would it sound better if I replace the Strata with a Quake?


A Storm III would probably be the right upgrade for that system. Had mine
for 3 years & still like it a lot.

rgds

I.


Try Titan AE Ice Field, Toy Story II intro, Star Wars Bubble, T2 THX logo.
That'll show up the limitations of the Rel Storm. I know ;-) Sub calibrated
to 85dB, others to 85dB, in a 4m x 4m room, normal listening level at -20dB.
Not really the fault of the Rel, just LFE + re-directed 5.0 bass is recorded
so damn hot that unless you sub overkill yourself you'll just hear
distortion. For 95% of films it's good, no problem with music or concert
DVD's, but if it sounds ****e for that last action movies of 5% it's worth
changing for (or using THX Sub Peak limitor to limit the maximum possible
output regardless of master volume) Brothers Yamaha bottomed out in Star
Wars Bubble. God that sounded ****e :-)



BenOne© October 21st 04 02:10 AM

Strata v Quake - A Considered Opinion Sought
 
Nath wrote:

Try Titan AE Ice Field, Toy Story II intro, Star Wars Bubble, T2 THX logo.
That'll show up the limitations of the Rel Storm. I know ;-) Sub calibrated
to 85dB, others to 85dB, in a 4m x 4m room, normal listening level at -20dB.
Not really the fault of the Rel, just LFE + re-directed 5.0 bass is recorded
so damn hot that unless you sub overkill yourself you'll just hear
distortion. For 95% of films it's good, no problem with music or concert
DVD's, but if it sounds ****e for that last action movies of 5% it's worth
changing for (or using THX Sub Peak limitor to limit the maximum possible
output regardless of master volume) Brothers Yamaha bottomed out in Star
Wars Bubble. God that sounded ****e :-)



What is this Star Wars Bubble you speak of?

--
Ben Thomas
Opinions, conclusions, and other information in this message that do not
relate to the official business of my firm shall be understood as neither
given nor endorsed by it.


Stewart Pinkerton October 21st 04 05:59 AM

Strata v Quake - A Considered Opinion Sought
 
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 18:24:32 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Welly" wrote in message
...
Scenario:
Denon AVR-2805 driving Monitor Audio R90 L, R & Surrounds; R180 Centre;
plus REL Strata (original 60W version) subwoofer in 3m X 4m listening
room. Source material is Music and Movies from Pioneer DV-656A.
Question:
Would it sound better if I replace the Strata with a Quake?
TIA,
Welly.


I have recently been informed (by one who 'knows') that the 'Ss' beat the
'Qs' when it comes to REL subs.....


Richard E Lord would agree with you. The Q series are mass-market HT
boomers, the S series are the 'real' RELs. Hence, the S series are
smoother and deeper, but the Q series have more 'slam', what the OP
might call more welly.............
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Stewart Pinkerton October 21st 04 06:01 AM

Strata v Quake - A Considered Opinion Sought
 
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 00:44:56 +0100, "Nath" wrote:


"Iain Miller" wrote in message
...

"Welly" wrote in message
...
Scenario:
Denon AVR-2805 driving Monitor Audio R90 L, R & Surrounds; R180 Centre;

plus
REL Strata (original 60W version) subwoofer in 3m X 4m listening room.
Source material is Music and Movies from Pioneer DV-656A.
Question:
Would it sound better if I replace the Strata with a Quake?


A Storm III would probably be the right upgrade for that system. Had mine
for 3 years & still like it a lot.

rgds

I.


Try Titan AE Ice Field, Toy Story II intro, Star Wars Bubble, T2 THX logo.
That'll show up the limitations of the Rel Storm. I know ;-) Sub calibrated
to 85dB, others to 85dB, in a 4m x 4m room, normal listening level at -20dB.
Not really the fault of the Rel, just LFE + re-directed 5.0 bass is recorded
so damn hot that unless you sub overkill yourself you'll just hear
distortion. For 95% of films it's good, no problem with music or concert
DVD's, but if it sounds ****e for that last action movies of 5% it's worth
changing for (or using THX Sub Peak limitor to limit the maximum possible
output regardless of master volume) Brothers Yamaha bottomed out in Star
Wars Bubble. God that sounded ****e :-)


Pardon my iggerance - Star Wars Bubble?

--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Nath October 21st 04 10:36 AM

Strata v Quake - A Considered Opinion Sought
 

"BenOne©" wrote in message
...
Nath wrote:

Try Titan AE Ice Field, Toy Story II intro, Star Wars Bubble, T2 THX
logo. That'll show up the limitations of the Rel Storm. I know ;-) Sub
calibrated to 85dB, others to 85dB, in a 4m x 4m room, normal listening
level at -20dB. Not really the fault of the Rel, just LFE + re-directed
5.0 bass is recorded so damn hot that unless you sub overkill yourself
you'll just hear distortion. For 95% of films it's good, no problem with
music or concert DVD's, but if it sounds ****e for that last action
movies of 5% it's worth changing for (or using THX Sub Peak limitor to
limit the maximum possible output regardless of master volume) Brothers
Yamaha bottomed out in Star Wars Bubble. God that sounded ****e :-)


What is this Star Wars Bubble you speak of?

--
Ben Thomas


Intro on the new Star Wars films (Hope, ESB, ROTJ)



Nath October 21st 04 10:56 AM

Strata v Quake - A Considered Opinion Sought
 

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 00:44:56 +0100, "Nath" wrote:


"Iain Miller" wrote in message
...

"Welly" wrote in message
...
Scenario:
Denon AVR-2805 driving Monitor Audio R90 L, R & Surrounds; R180 Centre;
plus
REL Strata (original 60W version) subwoofer in 3m X 4m listening room.
Source material is Music and Movies from Pioneer DV-656A.
Question:
Would it sound better if I replace the Strata with a Quake?

A Storm III would probably be the right upgrade for that system. Had
mine
for 3 years & still like it a lot.

rgds

I.


Try Titan AE Ice Field, Toy Story II intro, Star Wars Bubble, T2 THX logo.
That'll show up the limitations of the Rel Storm. I know ;-) Sub
calibrated
to 85dB, others to 85dB, in a 4m x 4m room, normal listening level
at -20dB.
Not really the fault of the Rel, just LFE + re-directed 5.0 bass is
recorded
so damn hot that unless you sub overkill yourself you'll just hear
distortion. For 95% of films it's good, no problem with music or concert
DVD's, but if it sounds ****e for that last action movies of 5% it's worth
changing for (or using THX Sub Peak limitor to limit the maximum possible
output regardless of master volume) Brothers Yamaha bottomed out in Star
Wars Bubble. God that sounded ****e :-)


Pardon my iggerance - Star Wars Bubble?

--


Bubble/Rain/Thunder THX sequence just before Lucasarts drum fanfare



Stewart Pinkerton October 21st 04 04:10 PM

Strata v Quake - A Considered Opinion Sought
 
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 11:36:52 +0100, "Nath" wrote:


"BenOne©" wrote in message
...
Nath wrote:

Try Titan AE Ice Field, Toy Story II intro, Star Wars Bubble, T2 THX
logo. That'll show up the limitations of the Rel Storm. I know ;-) Sub
calibrated to 85dB, others to 85dB, in a 4m x 4m room, normal listening
level at -20dB. Not really the fault of the Rel, just LFE + re-directed
5.0 bass is recorded so damn hot that unless you sub overkill yourself
you'll just hear distortion. For 95% of films it's good, no problem with
music or concert DVD's, but if it sounds ****e for that last action
movies of 5% it's worth changing for (or using THX Sub Peak limitor to
limit the maximum possible output regardless of master volume) Brothers
Yamaha bottomed out in Star Wars Bubble. God that sounded ****e :-)


What is this Star Wars Bubble you speak of?

--
Ben Thomas


Intro on the new Star Wars films (Hope, ESB, ROTJ)


Oh, right, you mean the THX thunderbubble, a sort of ripoff of the
Terminator time travel bubble.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Welly October 21st 04 08:44 PM

Strata v Quake - A Considered Opinion Sought
 
I fear my request was slightly ambiguous and we've gone OT anyway!
I can't afford an "Upgrade" from the Strata, and the other co-habitant of my
abode likes smaller things (!) - SO - given the set-up detailed, would it be
worth getting a new 100W Quake to replace my old 60W Strata "1"? Or am I
better to stick with the Strata?
Welly.



"Welly" wrote in message
...
Scenario:
Denon AVR-2805 driving Monitor Audio R90 L, R & Surrounds; R180 Centre;
plus REL Strata (original 60W version) subwoofer in 3m X 4m listening
room. Source material is Music and Movies from Pioneer DV-656A.
Question:
Would it sound better if I replace the Strata with a Quake?
TIA,
Welly.




Stewart Pinkerton October 21st 04 10:18 PM

Strata v Quake - A Considered Opinion Sought
 
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 21:44:15 +0100, "Welly" wrote:

I fear my request was slightly ambiguous and we've gone OT anyway!
I can't afford an "Upgrade" from the Strata, and the other co-habitant of my
abode likes smaller things (!) - SO - given the set-up detailed, would it be
worth getting a new 100W Quake to replace my old 60W Strata "1"? Or am I
better to stick with the Strata?


DITCH THE BITCH! Or cringe forever as the pussy-whipped needle-dick
with no bass.

Is there any of the above which was unclear? I'll be happy to rephrase
if necessary. Big bass needs big power *and* big boxes. There is an
alternative solution, and once you've hired the hitman, I'll be happy
to share it with you.....................
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Nath October 21st 04 10:27 PM

Strata v Quake - A Considered Opinion Sought
 

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 21:44:15 +0100, "Welly" wrote:

I fear my request was slightly ambiguous and we've gone OT anyway!
I can't afford an "Upgrade" from the Strata, and the other co-habitant of
my
abode likes smaller things (!) - SO - given the set-up detailed, would it
be
worth getting a new 100W Quake to replace my old 60W Strata "1"? Or am I
better to stick with the Strata?


DITCH THE BITCH! Or cringe forever as the pussy-whipped needle-dick
with no bass.

Is there any of the above which was unclear? I'll be happy to rephrase
if necessary. Big bass needs big power *and* big boxes. There is an
alternative solution, and once you've hired the hitman, I'll be happy
to share it with you.....................
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering


Yup, Strata is tiny. I can't see the problem. This on the other hand ;-)
http://nathansilly.012webpages.com/svspic.jpg
Craps all over the Strata and Quake for performance & price.



Keith G October 21st 04 10:55 PM

Strata v Quake - A Considered Opinion Sought
 

"Nath" wrote in message
. ..

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 21:44:15 +0100, "Welly" wrote:

I fear my request was slightly ambiguous and we've gone OT anyway!
I can't afford an "Upgrade" from the Strata, and the other co-habitant of
my
abode likes smaller things (!) - SO - given the set-up detailed, would it
be
worth getting a new 100W Quake to replace my old 60W Strata "1"? Or am I
better to stick with the Strata?


DITCH THE BITCH! Or cringe forever as the pussy-whipped needle-dick
with no bass.

Is there any of the above which was unclear? I'll be happy to rephrase
if necessary. Big bass needs big power *and* big boxes. There is an
alternative solution, and once you've hired the hitman, I'll be happy
to share it with you.....................
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering


Yup, Strata is tiny. I can't see the problem. This on the other hand ;-)
http://nathansilly.012webpages.com/svspic.jpg
Craps all over the Strata and Quake for performance & price.



Or, if you prefer the DIY approach, you can buy a cheap Chinese thing off
eBay (£60 + P&P), wait 9 days for a 'next day' from Germany and those nice
people at DHL (and/or Omega) will chuck it around for you and make it nice
and easy to open up, so you can reconstruct the cabinet in summat a bit more
substantial/attractive (the driver and amplifier controls look very good):

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keit...ustedsub01.JPG

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keit...ustedsub02.JPG

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keit...ustedsub03.JPG

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keit...ustedsub04.JPG

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keit...ustedsub05.JPG


Ya gotta fekkin' larf....... :-)







BenOne© October 22nd 04 04:20 AM

Strata v Quake - A Considered Opinion Sought
 
Keith G wrote:


Or, if you prefer the DIY approach, you can buy a cheap Chinese thing off
eBay (£60 + P&P), wait 9 days for a 'next day' from Germany and those nice
people at DHL (and/or Omega) will chuck it around for you and make it nice
and easy to open up, so you can reconstruct the cabinet in summat a bit more
substantial/attractive (the driver and amplifier controls look very good):

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keit...ustedsub01.JPG

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keit...ustedsub02.JPG

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keit...ustedsub03.JPG

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keit...ustedsub04.JPG

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keit...ustedsub05.JPG


Ya gotta fekkin' larf....... :-)


I don't want to even imagine what that treatment did to the voice coil.

P.S. You probably only need 800x600 and plenty of jpeg compression for those
pictures.
--
Ben Thomas
Opinions, conclusions, and other information in this message that do not
relate to the official business of my firm shall be understood as neither
given nor endorsed by it.


Nige October 22nd 04 08:20 AM

Strata v Quake - A Considered Opinion Sought
 

"Keith G" wrote in message
...

"Nath" wrote in message . ..

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 21:44:15 +0100, "Welly" wrote:

I fear my request was slightly ambiguous and we've gone OT anyway!
I can't afford an "Upgrade" from the Strata, and the other co-habitant of my
abode likes smaller things (!) - SO - given the set-up detailed, would it be
worth getting a new 100W Quake to replace my old 60W Strata "1"? Or am I
better to stick with the Strata?

DITCH THE BITCH! Or cringe forever as the pussy-whipped needle-dick
with no bass.

Is there any of the above which was unclear? I'll be happy to rephrase
if necessary. Big bass needs big power *and* big boxes. There is an
alternative solution, and once you've hired the hitman, I'll be happy
to share it with you.....................
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering


Yup, Strata is tiny. I can't see the problem. This on the other hand ;-)
http://nathansilly.012webpages.com/svspic.jpg
Craps all over the Strata and Quake for performance & price.



Or, if you prefer the DIY approach, you can buy a cheap Chinese thing off eBay (£60 + P&P), wait 9 days
for a 'next day' from Germany and those nice people at DHL (and/or Omega) will chuck it around for you
and make it nice and easy to open up, so you can reconstruct the cabinet in summat a bit more
substantial/attractive (the driver and amplifier controls look very good):

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keit...ustedsub01.JPG

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keit...ustedsub02.JPG

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keit...ustedsub03.JPG

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keit...ustedsub04.JPG

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keit...ustedsub05.JPG


Ya gotta fekkin' larf....... :-)







I once got a projector from eBay & it was ****ing smashed to bits. I mean it was smashed up. The bloke
had done a real job of packing it too. Parcel farce must have dropped it onto my house like ****ing food
aid from the back of a Hercules.

Nige



Don Pearce October 22nd 04 09:08 AM

Strata v Quake - A Considered Opinion Sought
 
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 23:55:47 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Nath" wrote in message
...

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 21:44:15 +0100, "Welly" wrote:

I fear my request was slightly ambiguous and we've gone OT anyway!
I can't afford an "Upgrade" from the Strata, and the other co-habitant of
my
abode likes smaller things (!) - SO - given the set-up detailed, would it
be
worth getting a new 100W Quake to replace my old 60W Strata "1"? Or am I
better to stick with the Strata?

DITCH THE BITCH! Or cringe forever as the pussy-whipped needle-dick
with no bass.

Is there any of the above which was unclear? I'll be happy to rephrase
if necessary. Big bass needs big power *and* big boxes. There is an
alternative solution, and once you've hired the hitman, I'll be happy
to share it with you.....................
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering


Yup, Strata is tiny. I can't see the problem. This on the other hand ;-)
http://nathansilly.012webpages.com/svspic.jpg
Craps all over the Strata and Quake for performance & price.



Or, if you prefer the DIY approach, you can buy a cheap Chinese thing off
eBay (£60 + P&P), wait 9 days for a 'next day' from Germany and those nice
people at DHL (and/or Omega) will chuck it around for you and make it nice
and easy to open up, so you can reconstruct the cabinet in summat a bit more
substantial/attractive (the driver and amplifier controls look very good):

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keit...ustedsub01.JPG

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keit...ustedsub02.JPG

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keit...ustedsub03.JPG

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keit...ustedsub04.JPG

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keit...ustedsub05.JPG


Ya gotta fekkin' larf....... :-)





Looks like mice to me...

d
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

Nath October 22nd 04 11:54 AM

Strata v Quake - A Considered Opinion Sought
 

"Welly" wrote in message
...
I fear my request was slightly ambiguous and we've gone OT anyway!
I can't afford an "Upgrade" from the Strata, and the other co-habitant of
my abode likes smaller things (!) - SO - given the set-up detailed, would
it be worth getting a new 100W Quake to replace my old 60W Strata "1"? Or
am I better to stick with the Strata?
Welly.


People are telling you that the Quake is a POS, compared to the Strata (and
BIGGER subs) and you still want to hear people saying the Quake is
better/similar?? (and smaller) Has your wife got bigger balls than you?
STAND UP TO HER MAN!

If you really want a small sub, try horn loaded, subwoofer that's
horn-loaded into the room. Once it's complete there is hardly any visual
proof that it exists. A good trick would be to connect some Bose sats
WITHOUT the module (but connect up his horn sub up slyly) then show off just
how good the Bose bass is from just the sats alone :-D

http://www.royaldevice.com/custom3.htm



Keith G October 22nd 04 01:04 PM

Strata v Quake - A Considered Opinion Sought
 

"Nige" wrote in message
...

"Keith G" wrote in message
...

"Nath" wrote in message
. ..

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 21:44:15 +0100, "Welly" wrote:

I fear my request was slightly ambiguous and we've gone OT anyway!
I can't afford an "Upgrade" from the Strata, and the other co-habitant
of my
abode likes smaller things (!) - SO - given the set-up detailed, would
it be
worth getting a new 100W Quake to replace my old 60W Strata "1"? Or am
I
better to stick with the Strata?

DITCH THE BITCH! Or cringe forever as the pussy-whipped needle-dick
with no bass.

Is there any of the above which was unclear? I'll be happy to rephrase
if necessary. Big bass needs big power *and* big boxes. There is an
alternative solution, and once you've hired the hitman, I'll be happy
to share it with you.....................
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Yup, Strata is tiny. I can't see the problem. This on the other hand ;-)
http://nathansilly.012webpages.com/svspic.jpg
Craps all over the Strata and Quake for performance & price.



Or, if you prefer the DIY approach, you can buy a cheap Chinese thing off
eBay (£60 + P&P), wait 9 days for a 'next day' from Germany and those
nice people at DHL (and/or Omega) will chuck it around for you and make
it nice and easy to open up, so you can reconstruct the cabinet in summat
a bit more substantial/attractive (the driver and amplifier controls look
very good):

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keit...ustedsub01.JPG

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keit...ustedsub02.JPG

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keit...ustedsub03.JPG

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keit...ustedsub04.JPG

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keit...ustedsub05.JPG


Ya gotta fekkin' larf....... :-)







I once got a projector from eBay & it was ****ing smashed to bits. I mean
it was smashed up. The bloke had done a real job of packing it too. Parcel
farce must have dropped it onto my house like ****ing food aid from the
back of a Hercules.



I was let into a Porcel Farce depot once and have seen (with my own eyes)
packages chucked about like cushions, a ****ing moron struggle summat
(anvil?) up over the side of a 'cage on wheels' to about eyeball height and
watched it drop on to everything else like a sack of ****. I even saw
another moron, standing in the back of a lorry, throw a brand new kiddie's
bike (with a big cardboard sleeve wrapped over the crossbar kinda thing)
down onto the concrete floor a couple of yards to one side of the 'ramp'
they were using! All that was in about the 3 minutes I was in there!!!

When I recently queried a string of bent 'vinyl' packages with the local
sorting office, I was told 'you can't legislate for idiots'.....

Never mind the monkeys (you pay 'peanuts'.....??) what about the so-called
'management'.....???

Like I say, ya gotta larf or you'd cry yer bloody eyes out!!




Keith G October 22nd 04 01:15 PM

Strata v Quake - A Considered Opinion Sought
 

"BenOne©" wrote in message
...
Keith G wrote:


Or, if you prefer the DIY approach, you can buy a cheap Chinese thing off
eBay (£60 + P&P), wait 9 days for a 'next day' from Germany and those
nice people at DHL (and/or Omega) will chuck it around for you and make
it nice and easy to open up, so you can reconstruct the cabinet in summat
a bit more substantial/attractive (the driver and amplifier controls look
very good):

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keit...ustedsub01.JPG

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keit...ustedsub02.JPG

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keit...ustedsub03.JPG

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keit...ustedsub04.JPG

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keit...ustedsub05.JPG


Ya gotta fekkin' larf....... :-)


I don't want to even imagine what that treatment did to the voice coil.



Bugger, don't say that - I'm kinda hoping to get it for nowt (by way of
compensation) so I can rebuild it. The cabinet's only plastic-coated,
half-inch Weetabix but it weighs 14 kgs, the driver looks good and stiff and
the control panel's got more connectivity and adjustments than an AV amp!!!





Glenn Booth October 22nd 04 07:34 PM

Strata v Quake - A Considered Opinion Sought
 
Hi,

In message , Keith G
writes

Bugger, don't say that - I'm kinda hoping to get it for nowt (by way of
compensation) so I can rebuild it. The cabinet's only plastic-coated,
half-inch Weetabix but it weighs 14 kgs, the driver looks good and stiff and
the control panel's got more connectivity and adjustments than an AV amp!!!


It's probably worth a shot (provided you count the work as leisure time
and not-for-profit!). The plate amp is almost definitely worth hanging
on to, and if you can find out what kind of driver is in there you may
even be able to improve on the original cabinet. Shout when you know
what driver it is - if it's anything well known, someone can probably
find the Small Thiele parameters for it and come up with a sane cabinet
design.

--
Regards,
Glenn Booth

Keith G October 22nd 04 09:24 PM

Strata v Quake - A Considered Opinion Sought
 

"Glenn Booth" wrote in message
...
Hi,

In message , Keith G
writes

Bugger, don't say that - I'm kinda hoping to get it for nowt (by way of
compensation) so I can rebuild it. The cabinet's only plastic-coated,
half-inch Weetabix but it weighs 14 kgs, the driver looks good and stiff
and
the control panel's got more connectivity and adjustments than an AV
amp!!!


It's probably worth a shot (provided you count the work as leisure time
and not-for-profit!). The plate amp is almost definitely worth hanging on
to, and if you can find out what kind of driver is in there you may even
be able to improve on the original cabinet. Shout when you know what
driver it is - if it's anything well known, someone can probably find the
Small Thiele parameters for it and come up with a sane cabinet design.



OK, will do - I'm in a strange position with this sub, I'm not sure a
replacement would be as attractive as just calling it a pile of dead cheap
bits and 'having a go' with it! The dilemma is that I will have to so summat
pretty sharpish - we need the sub on the HT!! (See previous post about
peeling the LFE off the fronts...)

I wonder if it's possible to change it to a sealed box design if I do get
into butchering it? At 60 quid, I suppose its quite likely the components
are actually ****e and might not be up to it??? (150W - 80W RMS)

Also, a TL design would be *something*, wouldn't it....??? :-)






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