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Strata v Quake - A Considered Opinion Sought



 
 
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Old October 20th 04, 05:11 PM posted to uk.media.home-cinema,uk.rec.audio
Welly
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Default Strata v Quake - A Considered Opinion Sought

Scenario:
Denon AVR-2805 driving Monitor Audio R90 L, R & Surrounds; R180 Centre; plus
REL Strata (original 60W version) subwoofer in 3m X 4m listening room.
Source material is Music and Movies from Pioneer DV-656A.
Question:
Would it sound better if I replace the Strata with a Quake?
TIA,
Welly.


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Old October 20th 04, 05:24 PM posted to uk.media.home-cinema,uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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"Welly" wrote in message
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Scenario:
Denon AVR-2805 driving Monitor Audio R90 L, R & Surrounds; R180 Centre;
plus REL Strata (original 60W version) subwoofer in 3m X 4m listening
room. Source material is Music and Movies from Pioneer DV-656A.
Question:
Would it sound better if I replace the Strata with a Quake?
TIA,
Welly.



I have recently been informed (by one who 'knows') that the 'Ss' beat the
'Qs' when it comes to REL subs.....


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Old October 20th 04, 05:28 PM posted to uk.media.home-cinema,uk.rec.audio
Nath
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"Welly" wrote in message
...
Scenario:
Denon AVR-2805 driving Monitor Audio R90 L, R & Surrounds; R180 Centre;
plus REL Strata (original 60W version) subwoofer in 3m X 4m listening
room. Source material is Music and Movies from Pioneer DV-656A.
Question:
Would it sound better if I replace the Strata with a Quake?
TIA,
Welly.



No. If you want to upgrade consider the Storm or better. Although I think
Rel are overpriced, and underperform for HT use.


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Old October 20th 04, 05:38 PM posted to uk.media.home-cinema,uk.rec.audio
Iain Miller
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"Welly" wrote in message
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Scenario:
Denon AVR-2805 driving Monitor Audio R90 L, R & Surrounds; R180 Centre;

plus
REL Strata (original 60W version) subwoofer in 3m X 4m listening room.
Source material is Music and Movies from Pioneer DV-656A.
Question:
Would it sound better if I replace the Strata with a Quake?


A Storm III would probably be the right upgrade for that system. Had mine
for 3 years & still like it a lot.

rgds

I.


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Old October 20th 04, 11:44 PM posted to uk.media.home-cinema,uk.rec.audio
Nath
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"Iain Miller" wrote in message
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"Welly" wrote in message
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Scenario:
Denon AVR-2805 driving Monitor Audio R90 L, R & Surrounds; R180 Centre;

plus
REL Strata (original 60W version) subwoofer in 3m X 4m listening room.
Source material is Music and Movies from Pioneer DV-656A.
Question:
Would it sound better if I replace the Strata with a Quake?


A Storm III would probably be the right upgrade for that system. Had mine
for 3 years & still like it a lot.

rgds

I.


Try Titan AE Ice Field, Toy Story II intro, Star Wars Bubble, T2 THX logo.
That'll show up the limitations of the Rel Storm. I know ;-) Sub calibrated
to 85dB, others to 85dB, in a 4m x 4m room, normal listening level at -20dB.
Not really the fault of the Rel, just LFE + re-directed 5.0 bass is recorded
so damn hot that unless you sub overkill yourself you'll just hear
distortion. For 95% of films it's good, no problem with music or concert
DVD's, but if it sounds ****e for that last action movies of 5% it's worth
changing for (or using THX Sub Peak limitor to limit the maximum possible
output regardless of master volume) Brothers Yamaha bottomed out in Star
Wars Bubble. God that sounded ****e :-)


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Old October 21st 04, 02:10 AM posted to uk.media.home-cinema,uk.rec.audio
BenOne©
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Nath wrote:

Try Titan AE Ice Field, Toy Story II intro, Star Wars Bubble, T2 THX logo.
That'll show up the limitations of the Rel Storm. I know ;-) Sub calibrated
to 85dB, others to 85dB, in a 4m x 4m room, normal listening level at -20dB.
Not really the fault of the Rel, just LFE + re-directed 5.0 bass is recorded
so damn hot that unless you sub overkill yourself you'll just hear
distortion. For 95% of films it's good, no problem with music or concert
DVD's, but if it sounds ****e for that last action movies of 5% it's worth
changing for (or using THX Sub Peak limitor to limit the maximum possible
output regardless of master volume) Brothers Yamaha bottomed out in Star
Wars Bubble. God that sounded ****e :-)



What is this Star Wars Bubble you speak of?

--
Ben Thomas
Opinions, conclusions, and other information in this message that do not
relate to the official business of my firm shall be understood as neither
given nor endorsed by it.

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Old October 21st 04, 05:59 AM posted to uk.media.home-cinema,uk.rec.audio
Stewart Pinkerton
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On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 18:24:32 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Welly" wrote in message
...
Scenario:
Denon AVR-2805 driving Monitor Audio R90 L, R & Surrounds; R180 Centre;
plus REL Strata (original 60W version) subwoofer in 3m X 4m listening
room. Source material is Music and Movies from Pioneer DV-656A.
Question:
Would it sound better if I replace the Strata with a Quake?
TIA,
Welly.


I have recently been informed (by one who 'knows') that the 'Ss' beat the
'Qs' when it comes to REL subs.....


Richard E Lord would agree with you. The Q series are mass-market HT
boomers, the S series are the 'real' RELs. Hence, the S series are
smoother and deeper, but the Q series have more 'slam', what the OP
might call more welly.............
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering
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Old October 21st 04, 06:01 AM posted to uk.media.home-cinema,uk.rec.audio
Stewart Pinkerton
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Default Strata v Quake - A Considered Opinion Sought

On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 00:44:56 +0100, "Nath" wrote:


"Iain Miller" wrote in message
...

"Welly" wrote in message
...
Scenario:
Denon AVR-2805 driving Monitor Audio R90 L, R & Surrounds; R180 Centre;

plus
REL Strata (original 60W version) subwoofer in 3m X 4m listening room.
Source material is Music and Movies from Pioneer DV-656A.
Question:
Would it sound better if I replace the Strata with a Quake?


A Storm III would probably be the right upgrade for that system. Had mine
for 3 years & still like it a lot.

rgds

I.


Try Titan AE Ice Field, Toy Story II intro, Star Wars Bubble, T2 THX logo.
That'll show up the limitations of the Rel Storm. I know ;-) Sub calibrated
to 85dB, others to 85dB, in a 4m x 4m room, normal listening level at -20dB.
Not really the fault of the Rel, just LFE + re-directed 5.0 bass is recorded
so damn hot that unless you sub overkill yourself you'll just hear
distortion. For 95% of films it's good, no problem with music or concert
DVD's, but if it sounds ****e for that last action movies of 5% it's worth
changing for (or using THX Sub Peak limitor to limit the maximum possible
output regardless of master volume) Brothers Yamaha bottomed out in Star
Wars Bubble. God that sounded ****e :-)


Pardon my iggerance - Star Wars Bubble?

--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering
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Old October 21st 04, 10:36 AM posted to uk.media.home-cinema,uk.rec.audio
Nath
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Default Strata v Quake - A Considered Opinion Sought


"BenOne©" wrote in message
...
Nath wrote:

Try Titan AE Ice Field, Toy Story II intro, Star Wars Bubble, T2 THX
logo. That'll show up the limitations of the Rel Storm. I know ;-) Sub
calibrated to 85dB, others to 85dB, in a 4m x 4m room, normal listening
level at -20dB. Not really the fault of the Rel, just LFE + re-directed
5.0 bass is recorded so damn hot that unless you sub overkill yourself
you'll just hear distortion. For 95% of films it's good, no problem with
music or concert DVD's, but if it sounds ****e for that last action
movies of 5% it's worth changing for (or using THX Sub Peak limitor to
limit the maximum possible output regardless of master volume) Brothers
Yamaha bottomed out in Star Wars Bubble. God that sounded ****e :-)


What is this Star Wars Bubble you speak of?

--
Ben Thomas


Intro on the new Star Wars films (Hope, ESB, ROTJ)


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Old October 21st 04, 10:56 AM posted to uk.media.home-cinema,uk.rec.audio
Nath
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"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 00:44:56 +0100, "Nath" wrote:


"Iain Miller" wrote in message
...

"Welly" wrote in message
...
Scenario:
Denon AVR-2805 driving Monitor Audio R90 L, R & Surrounds; R180 Centre;
plus
REL Strata (original 60W version) subwoofer in 3m X 4m listening room.
Source material is Music and Movies from Pioneer DV-656A.
Question:
Would it sound better if I replace the Strata with a Quake?

A Storm III would probably be the right upgrade for that system. Had
mine
for 3 years & still like it a lot.

rgds

I.


Try Titan AE Ice Field, Toy Story II intro, Star Wars Bubble, T2 THX logo.
That'll show up the limitations of the Rel Storm. I know ;-) Sub
calibrated
to 85dB, others to 85dB, in a 4m x 4m room, normal listening level
at -20dB.
Not really the fault of the Rel, just LFE + re-directed 5.0 bass is
recorded
so damn hot that unless you sub overkill yourself you'll just hear
distortion. For 95% of films it's good, no problem with music or concert
DVD's, but if it sounds ****e for that last action movies of 5% it's worth
changing for (or using THX Sub Peak limitor to limit the maximum possible
output regardless of master volume) Brothers Yamaha bottomed out in Star
Wars Bubble. God that sounded ****e :-)


Pardon my iggerance - Star Wars Bubble?

--


Bubble/Rain/Thunder THX sequence just before Lucasarts drum fanfare


 




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