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45 vs.33



 
 
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Old October 27th 04, 11:09 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Arny Krueger
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Default 45 vs.33

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It was ever your habit to ignore facts. The treble extension of vinyl
is entirely related to groove speed, which is a function of radius
and rotation speed. In fact, the outer grooves of a 33.3 LP have
higher groove speed than the outer grooves of a 7" 45, but a 12" 45
has the capacity for a third of an octave higher treble. Of course,
it's back down below the outer grooves of a standard LP when it gets
to the inner grooves, but that's CAV discs for you!


The sad thing Pinky is that, coming from *anybody* else, the above
might have been interesting and worthy of debate. Coming from you, it
just gets stamped 'More Bull****' and tossed in the bin.....


Just shows the slings and arrows of having a closed mind like yours, Keith.

When you ignore truth you lose Keith, not the person who posts the truth.


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Old October 27th 04, 01:39 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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Arny Krueger wrote:
The sad thing Pinky is that, coming from *anybody* else, the above
might have been interesting and worthy of debate. Coming from you, it
just gets stamped 'More Bull****' and tossed in the bin.....


Just shows the slings and arrows of having a closed mind like yours,
Keith.


When you ignore truth you lose Keith, not the person who posts the
truth.


Am I alone in finding it incredible that a supposed vinyl fan like Mr G
hasn't ever noticed the change in quality between start and end of *any*
LP and worked out that it's mainly down to the velocity?

Or perhaps his hearing really is that poor?

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Old October 27th 04, 05:19 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Mike Gilmour
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Arny Krueger wrote:
The sad thing Pinky is that, coming from *anybody* else, the above
might have been interesting and worthy of debate. Coming from you, it
just gets stamped 'More Bull****' and tossed in the bin.....


Just shows the slings and arrows of having a closed mind like yours,
Keith.


When you ignore truth you lose Keith, not the person who posts the
truth.


Am I alone in finding it incredible that a supposed vinyl fan like Mr G
hasn't ever noticed the change in quality between start and end of *any*
LP and worked out that it's mainly down to the velocity?

Or perhaps his hearing really is that poor?

--
*Re-elect nobody

Dave Plowman London SW


To e-mail, change noise into sound.


If you are referring to me then yes I am quite aware of end of side
distortion & other downsides like not linear tracking etc. Vinyl is just a
part of my listening which also includes CD, DAT, RTR, Cassette, HD. I also
do quite a bit of recording for which I use a 24 bit DAT, Milennia media
pre's and Neumann mics. I also am sound man for 3 bands at present and yes
I have hearing audiograms from time to time to keep check on HF hearing loss
with age and never use ear buds...maybe that answers your question Vinyl is
just one part of the enjoyable music experience because like many I grew up
with it, similiarly valves but I do also have CD players, digital recorders
etc. How about you?


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Old October 27th 04, 06:08 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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Default 45 vs.33

In article ,
Mike Gilmour wrote:
Am I alone in finding it incredible that a supposed vinyl fan like Mr
G hasn't ever noticed the change in quality between start and end of
*any* LP and worked out that it's mainly down to the velocity?

Or perhaps his hearing really is that poor?


If you are referring to me


No. ;-) I'd call you Mr Gilmour.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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Old October 27th 04, 07:29 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Mike Gilmour
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Mike Gilmour wrote:
Am I alone in finding it incredible that a supposed vinyl fan like Mr
G hasn't ever noticed the change in quality between start and end of
*any* LP and worked out that it's mainly down to the velocity?

Or perhaps his hearing really is that poor?


If you are referring to me


No. ;-) I'd call you Mr Gilmour.



Thanks Mr P ;-)


--
*With her marriage she got a new name and a dress.*

Dave Plowman London SW
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Old October 27th 04, 07:44 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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"Mike Gilmour" wrote in message
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Mike Gilmour wrote:
Am I alone in finding it incredible that a supposed vinyl fan like Mr
G hasn't ever noticed the change in quality between start and end of
*any* LP and worked out that it's mainly down to the velocity?

Or perhaps his hearing really is that poor?


If you are referring to me


No. ;-) I'd call you Mr Gilmour.



Thanks Mr P ;-)




Mike, I think you're leaving the lid off my **** bin.....

;-)




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Old October 27th 04, 08:14 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Mike Gilmour
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"Keith G" wrote in message
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"Mike Gilmour" wrote in message
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Mike Gilmour wrote:
Am I alone in finding it incredible that a supposed vinyl fan like Mr
G hasn't ever noticed the change in quality between start and end of
*any* LP and worked out that it's mainly down to the velocity?

Or perhaps his hearing really is that poor?

If you are referring to me

No. ;-) I'd call you Mr Gilmour.



Thanks Mr P ;-)




Mike, I think you're leaving the lid off my **** bin.....

;-)


Sorry - are the flys gettin' in, **** sliding out or is it that god awful
smell?


 




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