"Fella" wrote in message
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
Fella wrote:

1) Ignore the "all cd players, amps, speakers, wires, etc, sound the
same" type of borgs lurking around here. Just believe in your own ears.


I'd love to know who you think reckons all speakers sound the same?

Well if some have the audacity to think that all cd players and amps sound
the same why not also speakers?


First lets deal with falsehood of anybody saying all CD players and amps
sound the same. It is that all CD players working the way tehy are supposed
to sound the same. If you have 2 CD players and one sounds different, one
is either malfunctioning or designed to sound someway other than flat.

Same for amps.

As to speakers, they are the weakest link in the audio chain sinc e they are
subject to room interaction and the fact that designs and drivers ahve gross
differences from manufacturer to manufacturer.



What about it howie? With level matching and 8 hours a day pink noise
listening subjected to the strictest iron curtain double blind tests you
think you would get a sonus faber sound the same as a, say, dynaudio ?


I've never seen this in print anywhere - the writer would be laughed out
of court.

Yes but he would come back.


I'd caution against just relying on your ears without a reference. The
room used for listening in has a far greater influence on the final sound
than any competent amp or CD etc. So what may sound fine in a shop at a
quick audition may well disappoint at home.

You are correct. I should have advised the newbie that (s)he should have
home auditioned any equipment for at least a week before any purchase
decision. That's what I do actually.



Also, IMHO, ... If a speaker sounds
'impressive' on one type of music more than another, it's a poor design.


Well I am not saying that for instance that some death metal vehemence
would sound bad with *spesifically* a sonus faber (it would sound bad
eminating from any old speaker, it wants to sound bad, yes?). What I am
saying is that its just a waste of money and abilities of the sonus faber
speakers to employ them on that kind of material. Sonus faber is designed
to bring out all the subtle inner details, the beauty, the musicality, of
a given piece of music, that IMHO, does not exist in angry music. And
since such music is preferably heard LOUD and with lots of distortion, a
sonus faber would be an overkill, as it were. A pair of cremona costs at
least three times as much as a pair of some average cervin wega!s which
are designed to give what the listeners or angry music want.

Michael McKelvy wrote:




First lets deal with falsehood of anybody saying all CD players and amps
sound the same. It is that all CD players working the way tehy are supposed
to sound the same.



This is just hilarious. He says that it is a falsehood that anynody
says a given, then RIGHT AFTERWARDS he says it himself..!


If you have 2 CD players and one sounds different, one
is either malfunctioning or designed to sound someway other than flat.


Well I sure wouldn't want my CD player to sound flat! I guess I'll go
with the "malfunctioning" ones!



Same for amps.


Thus spake ze god of audio-physics, ze force of knowing it all..
Resistance is futile!

Fella said:

Thus spake ze god of audio-physics, ze force of knowing it all..

Real gods don't need to have the spittle wiped off their chins.

George M. Middius wrote:


Fella said:


Thus spake ze god of audio-physics, ze force of knowing it all..


Real gods don't need to have the spittle wiped off their chins.


And perhaps they might *know* their mother tounge better then this mikey
boy.. For instance he writes that something or other had happened "to
late" or that it was "to little" etc.. Typical trailer park DUH! white
trash english. Can't be a typo since he makes the same mistake over
and over again in the same thread.

But then again "to late" and "too late" *sounds* the same.

PS: I bet it's the same guy with the sign that read: "Get a brain!
MORANS GO USA!"

http://www.esreality.com/files/place...843-morans.jpg

Fella said:

[Mikey]
PS: I bet it's the same guy with the sign that read: "Get a brain!
MORANS GO USA!"

http://www.esreality.com/files/place...843-morans.jpg


That reminds me of this picture. It purports to show Mikey and his
comrade Geostynch unwinding after a hard day of debating-trading.

http://www.geocities.com/glanbrok/RA...and_Blobbo.jpg

They look just like Mikey and Styncho sound.

On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 16:06:09 +0200, Fella wrote:


And perhaps they might *know* their mother tounge better then this mikey
boy.

I think that's "tongue". Also "better than".
..

paul packer wrote:
On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 16:06:09 +0200, Fella wrote:



And perhaps they might *know* their mother tounge better then this mikey
boy.


I think that's "tongue". Also "better than".
.

Typos will be typos. Is that asking "to much"?

Besides, english is definitely not my mother tongue.

On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 09:52:01 +0200, Fella wrote:

paul packer wrote:
On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 16:06:09 +0200, Fella wrote:



And perhaps they might *know* their mother tounge better then this mikey
boy.


I think that's "tongue". Also "better than".
.

Typos will be typos. Is that asking "to much"?

Besides, english is definitely not my mother tongue.

You mean your mother tounge, don't you?

"paul packer" wrote in message
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On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 16:06:09 +0200, Fella wrote:


And perhaps they might *know* their mother tounge better then this mikey
boy.

I think that's "tongue". Also "better than".
.
Touché.

****, this thread has drifted.

The first speakers I "fell in love with" were Spendor SP2s.

I ended up getting SP1s though. This was 88/89. Kept the SP1s
until '97, when some scally burglar burgled them.

Those Spendor bass units sure had some excursion!

The sticky gloopy stuff painted on them was a bit weird though. What was
all that about? ISTR I used to know, or had at least read something, but
I've forgotten now.



Martin
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