Keith its Angus
 

Keith it was said by Mr Pinkerton

"The 6006 from Rempstone to Hathern every day (traffic permitting), to
be precise. "

Then this tells me without doubt his first name is ANGUS

:-) is there a prize?

Dave xxxx
www.davewhitter.myby.co.uk

Music is Art - Audio is Engineering
Steam is Fun

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"Dave xxxxx" wrote in message
. ..
Keith it was said by Mr Pinkerton

"The 6006 from Rempstone to Hathern every day (traffic permitting), to
be precise. "

Then this tells me without doubt his first name is ANGUS


Yeis, I believe you're right. How do you make the connection?



:-) is there a prize?


Yes, when we finally decide to shoot him you get to fire first....

;-)

Keith its Angus
 

Keith G wrote:
"Dave xxxxx" wrote
Keith it was said by Mr Pinkerton

"The 6006 from Rempstone to Hathern every day (traffic permitting),
to be precise. "

Then this tells me without doubt his first name is ANGUS


Yeis, I believe you're right. How do you make the connection?



:-) is there a prize?


Yes, when we finally decide to shoot him you get to fire first....

;-)

Will e-mail you :-)

Keith its Angus
 

"Dave xxxxx" wrote in message
. ..
Keith G wrote:
"Dave xxxxx" wrote
Keith it was said by Mr Pinkerton

"The 6006 from Rempstone to Hathern every day (traffic permitting),
to be precise. "

Then this tells me without doubt his first name is ANGUS


Yeis, I believe you're right. How do you make the connection?



:-) is there a prize?


Yes, when we finally decide to shoot him you get to fire first....

;-)

Will e-mail you :-)


Got it, you crafty bugger!! ;-)

Keith its Angus
 

Keith G wrote:
"Dave xxxxx wrote
Keith G wrote:
"Dave xxxxx" wrote
Keith it was said by Mr Pinkerton

"The 6006 from Rempstone to Hathern every day (traffic permitting),
to be precise. "

Then this tells me without doubt his first name is ANGUS


Yeis, I believe you're right. How do you make the connection?



:-) is there a prize?


Yes, when we finally decide to shoot him you get to fire first....

;-)

Will e-mail you :-)


Got it, you crafty bugger!! ;-)


Could get a job with animal rights groups finding out where workers live


Dave

Keith its Angus
 

On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 15:58:34 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

"Dave xxxxx" wrote in message
...
Keith G wrote:
"Dave xxxxx" wrote
Keith it was said by Mr Pinkerton

"The 6006 from Rempstone to Hathern every day (traffic permitting),
to be precise. "

Then this tells me without doubt his first name is ANGUS

Yeis, I believe you're right. How do you make the connection?

As it happens, I'm from Montrose, which is *in* Angus, but that's
kinda recursive.................
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Keith its Angus
 

On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:26:54 GMT, "Dave xxxxx"
wrote:

Keith G wrote:
"Dave xxxxx wrote
Keith G wrote:
"Dave xxxxx" wrote
Keith it was said by Mr Pinkerton

"The 6006 from Rempstone to Hathern every day (traffic permitting),
to be precise. "

Then this tells me without doubt his first name is ANGUS

Yeis, I believe you're right. How do you make the connection?

:-) is there a prize?

Yes, when we finally decide to shoot him you get to fire first....

;-)

Will e-mail you :-)

Got it, you crafty bugger!! ;-)

Could get a job with animal rights groups finding out where workers live

192.com? :-)
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Keith its Angus
 

"Keith G" wrote in message
...

"Dave xxxxx" wrote in message
. ..
Keith it was said by Mr Pinkerton

"The 6006 from Rempstone to Hathern every day (traffic permitting), to
be precise. "

Then this tells me without doubt his first name is ANGUS


Yeis, I believe you're right. How do you make the connection?



:-) is there a prize?


Yes, when we finally decide to shoot him you get to fire first....


Bring along your Black Besses, I will bring an Anschutz :-)))


Iain

;-)

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"Iain M Churches" wrote in message
...

"Keith G" wrote in message
...

"Dave xxxxx" wrote in message
. ..
Keith it was said by Mr Pinkerton

"The 6006 from Rempstone to Hathern every day (traffic permitting), to
be precise. "

Then this tells me without doubt his first name is ANGUS


Yeis, I believe you're right. How do you make the connection?



:-) is there a prize?


Yes, when we finally decide to shoot him you get to fire first....


Bring along your Black Besses, I will bring an Anschutz :-)))


Iain

;-)

Hey Iain,

Interesting as I repaired Anschutz gyro's many times after a training in
Keil about 20 years ago, I've also heard of Anschutz guns though I'm not a
gun person (apart from used to use x2 barrel 12 bore to keep rabbits out )
...are they part of the same group?? ......the guns not the rabbits :-)

Keith its Angus
 

On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 13:38:04 +0300, "Iain M Churches"
wrote:


"Keith G" wrote in message
...

"Dave xxxxx" wrote in message
. ..
Keith it was said by Mr Pinkerton

"The 6006 from Rempstone to Hathern every day (traffic permitting), to
be precise. "

Then this tells me without doubt his first name is ANGUS


Yeis, I believe you're right. How do you make the connection?



:-) is there a prize?


Yes, when we finally decide to shoot him you get to fire first....


Bring along your Black Besses, I will bring an Anschutz :-)))

They make a nice barrel, but I generally prefer Walthers. I find that
a Mannlicher-Schonauer .270 will cover most medium-range requirements
for soft-skinned game up to 200 kilos............. :-)
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Keith its Angus
 

Dodge McRodgered wrote:
"Stewart Pinkerton" emitted :


They make a nice barrel, but I generally prefer Walthers. I find that
a Mannlicher-Schonauer .270 will cover most medium-range requirements
for soft-skinned game up to 200 kilos............. :-)


How do you like the House of Lords (unelected) dissent against the
democratically appointed House of Commons? What a travesty if brute
force (in the form of the Parliament Act) is used to block the
democratic process..

No matter.. the (dark) age of huntsman prancing about in red frocks
bloodying up their kids faces are numbered.

Hmm, and if so, also the rather more basic practise of people who
understand the country taking a few rabbits home for the pot after a
walk out with their dogs...

I may be mild mannered about valves and vinyl, but this is a different
matter IMO.

--
Nick

Keith its Angus
 

"Dodge McRodgered" wrote in message
...
"Stewart Pinkerton" emitted :

They make a nice barrel, but I generally prefer Walthers. I find that
a Mannlicher-Schonauer .270 will cover most medium-range requirements
for soft-skinned game up to 200 kilos............. :-)


*sniff sniff*

Drains up again?


Ya gotta larf....!!! :-)

(And I gotta start ingnoring it!! ;-)

Keith its Angus
 

Hmm, and if so, also the rather more basic practise of people who understand the country taking a few rabbits home for the pot
after a walk out with their dogs...

You shouldn't eat cute bunnies. :-/

Keith its Angus
 

Fleetie wrote:
Hmm, and if so, also the rather more basic practise of people who understand the country taking a few rabbits home for the pot
after a walk out with their dogs...


You shouldn't eat cute bunnies. :-/




I don't eat the cute ones, just the ones that can't run fast enough.
Darwin in action.

--
Nick

Keith its Angus
 

On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 23:40:36 +0100, Dodge McRodgered
wrote:

"Stewart Pinkerton" emitted :

They make a nice barrel, but I generally prefer Walthers. I find that
a Mannlicher-Schonauer .270 will cover most medium-range requirements
for soft-skinned game up to 200 kilos............. :-)

How do you like the House of Lords (unelected) dissent against the
democratically appointed House of Commons? What a travesty if brute
force (in the form of the Parliament Act) is used to block the
democratic process..

Indeed so. The whole point of the unelected second chamber was to put
a moral curb on the vote-grabbing and morally derelict Commons, who'd
vote capital punishment for speeding if they thought it would get them
re-elected. Of course, President Blair doesn't like that kind of curb
on his God-given powers..........

No matter.. the (dark) age of huntsman prancing about in red frocks
bloodying up their kids faces are numbered.

That sort of pathetic class-ridden cant is the real problem.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Keith its Angus
 

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:16:46 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Dodge McRodgered" wrote in message
.. .
"Stewart Pinkerton" emitted :

They make a nice barrel, but I generally prefer Walthers. I find that
a Mannlicher-Schonauer .270 will cover most medium-range requirements
for soft-skinned game up to 200 kilos............. :-)


*sniff sniff*

Drains up again?

Says the poncy clay shooter? :-)

--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Keith its Angus
 

On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 22:30:04 +0000, Nick Gorham
wrote:

Fleetie wrote:
Hmm, and if so, also the rather more basic practise of people who understand the country taking a few rabbits home for the pot
after a walk out with their dogs...


You shouldn't eat cute bunnies. :-/

I don't eat the cute ones, just the ones that can't run fast enough.
Darwin in action.

Indeed so. Just what is all this ******** about famine in Africa? It's
God's way of telling you to stop breeding!
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Keith its Angus
 

On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 03:22:38 +0000, Dodge McRodgered
wrote:

"Stewart Pinkerton" emitted :

They make a nice barrel, but I generally prefer Walthers. I find that
a Mannlicher-Schonauer .270 will cover most medium-range requirements
for soft-skinned game up to 200 kilos............. :-)

How do you like the House of Lords (unelected) dissent against the
democratically appointed House of Commons? What a travesty if brute
force (in the form of the Parliament Act) is used to block the
democratic process..

Indeed so. The whole point of the unelected second chamber was to put
a moral curb on the vote-grabbing and morally derelict Commons, who'd
vote capital punishment for speeding if they thought it would get them
re-elected. Of course, President Blair doesn't like that kind of curb
on his God-given powers..........

So that's what you think of democracy huh?? If only fox hunting wasn't
an indefensible load of bollox..

The unspeakable in pursuit of the uneatable? :-)

If you've ever kept chickens, you'll understand why foxes are classed
as vermin, just like rats. Hunting vermin is hardly 'bollox', so why
not have some good healthy fun doing it? Healthy until you come off,
that is. I don't personally know of any hunters who've reached 50
without at least two broken bones.

No matter.. the (dark) age of huntsman prancing about in red frocks
bloodying up their kids faces are numbered.

That sort of pathetic class-ridden cant is the real problem.

Class is clearly important to you, Stewart, but I don't pay it any
heed. Many so-called gentry are just cowardly thugs with a mob
mentality. It's those annoying folk who object to violence and cruetly
who spoil the "fun" for them... ;-(

Actually, the *vast* majority of hunt members are very far from
'gentry', it's only ignorant lefty ****s who pretend otherwise,
because they just hate to see *anyone* actually enjoying life.

If you're looking for cowardly thugs with a mob mentality, try the
hunt sabs or any 'animal rights' loonies. They're the sort of idiots
who release voracious killers like mink into the wild, in the name of
'animal welfare'! They also love to terrorise the innocent (by any
standard) families of people who breed lab animals, but they don't
have the guts to do it openly. Losers and cowards all. Remind you of
anyone, Dormouse?

--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Keith its Angus
 

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

The unspeakable in pursuit of the uneatable? :-)

If you've ever kept chickens, you'll understand why foxes are classed
as vermin,

Are farmers really so unintelligent that they cant build a fox-proof
chicken coop?

Keith its Angus
 

Ian Molton wrote:
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

The unspeakable in pursuit of the uneatable? :-)

If you've ever kept chickens, you'll understand why foxes are classed
as vermin,


Are farmers really so unintelligent that they cant build a fox-proof
chicken coop?

So you advocate keeping the chickens inside for their entire life ?

Not how our 5 chickens spend their day....

--
Nick

Keith its Angus
 

Nick Gorham wrote:
Ian Molton wrote:

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

The unspeakable in pursuit of the uneatable? :-)

If you've ever kept chickens, you'll understand why foxes are classed
as vermin,

Are farmers really so unintelligent that they cant build a fox-proof
chicken coop?

So you advocate keeping the chickens inside for their entire life ?

Not how our 5 chickens spend their day....

How do you defend your chickens then? you cant possibly be there for
them 24/7/365

Im thinking of a chicken wire coop, outside, large, and with a
chickenwire FLOOR as well to stop the foxes digging under it.

this really isnt hard to do - our local park has an area in which small
furry animals and chickens are kept, with chickenwire underfloor as well
as walls, and they have NEVER had a chicken attacked by a fox.

Keith its Angus
 

On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 09:43:42 +0000, Ian Molton wrote:

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

The unspeakable in pursuit of the uneatable? :-)

If you've ever kept chickens, you'll understand why foxes are classed
as vermin,

Are farmers really so unintelligent that they cant build a fox-proof
chicken coop?

No comment, but foxes are cunning, remember?
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Keith its Angus
 

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

Are farmers really so unintelligent that they cant build a fox-proof
chicken coop?

No comment, but foxes are cunning, remember?

Yeah, but they havent invented the wire-cutter yet...

Keith its Angus
 

Ian Molton wrote:
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

Are farmers really so unintelligent that they cant build a fox-proof
chicken coop?


No comment, but foxes are cunning, remember?


Yeah, but they havent invented the wire-cutter yet...

We have a hob ferret that can bite through chicken wire...

--
Nick

Keith its Angus
 

Ian Molton wrote:
Nick Gorham wrote:

Ian Molton wrote:

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

The unspeakable in pursuit of the uneatable? :-)

If you've ever kept chickens, you'll understand why foxes are classed
as vermin,


Are farmers really so unintelligent that they cant build a fox-proof
chicken coop?


So you advocate keeping the chickens inside for their entire life ?

Not how our 5 chickens spend their day....


How do you defend your chickens then? you cant possibly be there for
them 24/7/365

The fact that we have 13 assorted lurchers around the place tends to put
foxes off hanging around...


Im thinking of a chicken wire coop, outside, large, and with a
chickenwire FLOOR as well to stop the foxes digging under it.


Yes that would work, I am not suggesting it can't be done. But I doubt
the expense would appeal to the farmers.

Now if you want to comment on the conditions that chickens (and turkeys)
are kept commercially, and how something should be done by the
goverment, then I would be with you all the way.

--
Nick

Keith its Angus
 

In message , Stewart
Pinkerton writes
On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 22:30:04 +0000, Nick Gorham
wrote:

Fleetie wrote:
Hmm, and if so, also the rather more basic practise of people who
understand the country taking a few rabbits home for the pot
after a walk out with their dogs...


You shouldn't eat cute bunnies. :-/

I don't eat the cute ones, just the ones that can't run fast enough.
Darwin in action.

Indeed so. Just what is all this ******** about famine in Africa? It's
God's way of telling you to stop breeding!

Quite so. When we hear all the comments about how to prevent global
warming, we don't hear anything about the fact that the main cause is
global overpopulation.

But then we wouldn't in this socialist paradise called Britain would we?
Far too politically incorrect for Tony B to allow that.
--
Chris Morriss

Keith its Angus
 

Nick Gorham wrote:
So you advocate keeping the chickens inside for their entire life ?

Not how our 5 chickens spend their day....

How do you defend your chickens then? you cant possibly be there for
them 24/7/365

The fact that we have 13 assorted lurchers around the place tends to put
foxes off hanging around...

Fair enough. but I'd still say you had no right to take the foxes life
if it did manage to overcome your defenses. You *can* make better defenses.

The simple fact is that in medieval times foxes were at least as common
as now and chickens were at least as undefended as now, yet they werent
all wiped out. Trap a predator in with its prey in a confined space and
it will predictably slaughter everything.

If you have a reasonable space for your chickens now, I wouldnt expect
that a fox would take all five in one go unless desperate of it it got
confused somehow and felt trapped.

Im thinking of a chicken wire coop, outside, large, and with a
chickenwire FLOOR as well to stop the foxes digging under it.

Yes that would work, I am not suggesting it can't be done. But I doubt
the expense would appeal to the farmers.

I doubt it would, but chickenwire *is* cheap.

Now if you want to comment on the conditions that chickens (and turkeys)
are kept commercially, and how something should be done by the
goverment, then I would be with you all the way.

Battery farming? I buy free range and pay the price for it. Not sure how
much better it is, but at least Im voting with my wallet.

Keith its Angus
 

Nick Gorham wrote:
Ian Molton wrote:

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

Are farmers really so unintelligent that they cant build a fox-proof
chicken coop?



No comment, but foxes are cunning, remember?



Yeah, but they havent invented the wire-cutter yet...


We have a hob ferret that can bite through chicken wire...

Relevance?

Keith its Angus
 

On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 18:02:11 +0000, Ian Molton wrote:

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

Are farmers really so unintelligent that they cant build a fox-proof
chicken coop?

No comment, but foxes are cunning, remember?

Yeah, but they havent invented the wire-cutter yet...

Actually, they have. Teeth, claws and patient determination, always
the marks of the true hunter..........
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Keith its Angus
 

On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 18:34:20 +0000, Nick Gorham
wrote:

Ian Molton wrote:

How do you defend your chickens then? you cant possibly be there for
them 24/7/365

The fact that we have 13 assorted lurchers around the place tends to put
foxes off hanging around...

Hmmmm. I guess you don't have too many hares, either........ :-)

Im thinking of a chicken wire coop, outside, large, and with a
chickenwire FLOOR as well to stop the foxes digging under it.

Yes that would work, I am not suggesting it can't be done. But I doubt
the expense would appeal to the farmers.

Now if you want to comment on the conditions that chickens (and turkeys)
are kept commercially, and how something should be done by the
goverment, then I would be with you all the way.

Different argument, and nothing to do with real farmers or small
holders. We used to have a 'chicken farm' behind our house, and my
wife literally threw up one day when they were using a JCB to clear
out the sheds when 30,000 chickens died in an epidemic directly caused
by the close proximity and lack of natural immunity.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Keith its Angus
 

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 18:02:11 +0000, Ian Molton wrote:


Stewart Pinkerton wrote:


Are farmers really so unintelligent that they cant build a fox-proof
chicken coop?

No comment, but foxes are cunning, remember?

Yeah, but they havent invented the wire-cutter yet...


Actually, they have. Teeth, claws and patient determination, always
the marks of the true hunter..........

And the solution is to make sure the enclosure is maintained. End of
problem.

Keith its Angus
 

Ian Molton wrote:
Nick Gorham wrote:

Ian Molton wrote:

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

Are farmers really so unintelligent that they cant build a
fox-proof chicken coop?




No comment, but foxes are cunning, remember?




Yeah, but they havent invented the wire-cutter yet...



We have a hob ferret that can bite through chicken wire...


Relevance?

Just pointing out that the animal kingdom doesn't have to use
"wire-cutters" they have there own well developed set of tools.

--
Nick

Keith its Angus
 

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 18:34:20 +0000, Nick Gorham
wrote:


Ian Molton wrote:


How do you defend your chickens then? you cant possibly be there for
them 24/7/365

The fact that we have 13 assorted lurchers around the place tends to put
foxes off hanging around...


Hmmmm. I guess you don't have too many hares, either........ :-)

No, but the rabbit population is starting to build up around us (we have
onky been here for three years), But very exciting to start seeing deer
in the woods. (no, not so we can catch them, just nice being surrounded
by wildlife).


Now if you want to comment on the conditions that chickens (and turkeys)
are kept commercially, and how something should be done by the
goverment, then I would be with you all the way.


Different argument, and nothing to do with real farmers or small
holders. We used to have a 'chicken farm' behind our house, and my
wife literally threw up one day when they were using a JCB to clear
out the sheds when 30,000 chickens died in an epidemic directly caused
by the close proximity and lack of natural immunity.

Agreed, the point I was trying to raise though, was if the aim of the
anti-hunt lobby was to reduce suffering in animals, there were other
areas that IMHO should attract there attention before field sports.

--
Nick

Keith its Angus
 

Nick Gorham wrote:

Relevance?


Just pointing out that the animal kingdom doesn't have to use
"wire-cutters" they have there own well developed set of tools.

I'd imagine most animals determined enough would be able to overcome a
light fence such as chickenwire given enough time. some perhaps better
than others.

but still, we were talking about *foxes*

Keith its Angus
 

"Dodge McRodgered" wrote


So that's what you think of democracy huh?? If only fox hunting wasn't
an indefensible load of bollox..

The unspeakable in pursuit of the uneatable? :-)

LOL ;-)


More like the uneducated in pursuit of the unarmed.....

Ballsiest game in the world, foxhunting. Another example of where the
'aristocracy' have had to let the chavs in to ensure their odious lifestyle
retains enough public support among the cretins to keep going....

(Believe me, the knobs would much rather they *didn't* have to let you
traipse round their houses....)


The vast majority of animal lovers are peaceful. That should be
intuitively obvious!


I'm not sure they are - any bull**** tough guys here fancy their chances,
let them come and kick my dog and see just how long they stay on their
feet.....

(If they dare get that near to it - a Jack Russell who's brother was put
down by its owner due to 'extreme personality problems'...!!)

Keith its Angus
 

Dodge McRodgered wrote:

Ian have you tried these guys?? Recommended by a friend..

http://www.stockleyfarm.co.uk/Organic/index.htm

I think they are local to me. I may even have been there, I forget the
name of the local farm I had a vist at a couple years back.

Interestngly, their website is the first one I have come across that can
stiff mozillafirefox 1.0pr (albeit only the one window with their site
in it, not the whole program...)

Keith its Angus
 

On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 21:22:15 +0000, Dodge McRodgered
wrote:

"Stewart Pinkerton" emitted :

They make a nice barrel, but I generally prefer Walthers. I find that
a Mannlicher-Schonauer .270 will cover most medium-range requirements
for soft-skinned game up to 200 kilos............. :-)

How do you like the House of Lords (unelected) dissent against the
democratically appointed House of Commons? What a travesty if brute
force (in the form of the Parliament Act) is used to block the
democratic process..

Indeed so. The whole point of the unelected second chamber was to put
a moral curb on the vote-grabbing and morally derelict Commons, who'd
vote capital punishment for speeding if they thought it would get them
re-elected. Of course, President Blair doesn't like that kind of curb
on his God-given powers..........

So that's what you think of democracy huh?? If only fox hunting wasn't
an indefensible load of bollox..

The unspeakable in pursuit of the uneatable? :-)

LOL ;-)

I can't claim that one, it was Oscar Wilde

If you've ever kept chickens, you'll understand why foxes are classed
as vermin, just like rats. Hunting vermin is hardly 'bollox', so why
not have some good healthy fun doing it?

I don't consider cruelty to be "good healthy fun".

Oh please! Go visit a factory farm - or any inner city housing estate
- before you start whining about 'cruelty'.

The vermin-control argument is totally fallacious - everybody knows
that. Primarily, it doesn't require dozens of blokes on horses wearing
silly costumes to kill foxes. Just a few guys with rifles.

Either way, the fox is dead. What's your problem? Obvious really,
given your comment about 'silly costumes'. These costumes are very
practical, and the result of centuries of development. BTW, there are
more gels than blokes on most hunts.

Class is clearly important to you, Stewart, but I don't pay it any
heed. Many so-called gentry are just cowardly thugs with a mob
mentality. It's those annoying folk who object to violence and cruetly
who spoil the "fun" for them... ;-(

Actually, the *vast* majority of hunt members are very far from
'gentry', it's only ignorant lefty ****s who pretend otherwise,
because they just hate to see *anyone* actually enjoying life.

I don't recall saying "all hunts people are gentry". You must have
imagined that...

You made the connection, so stop trying to slide out of it.

If you're looking for cowardly thugs with a mob mentality, try the
hunt sabs or any 'animal rights' loonies.

Storming the commons, delaying a rally driving event by blocking
roads, dumping dead animals with placards plunged into their bodies
into the street, vicious attacks on anti-hunt protesters, violent
protests, manure pushed through MP's office letterboxes, Peter Hain's
aide punched, bloody-minded withdrawal of land used by the Ministry of
Defense. Just a few examples of the thuggish behaviour of pro-hunters
trying to retain their olde worlde ways. [Actually only a couple
hundred years old, but let's pretend...]

Is that all you've got? Pathetic. Hardly comparable to idiot hunt sabs
throwing marbles under horses hooves, is it? BTW, the 'vicious
attacks' were typically in self defence.

They're the sort of idiots
who release voracious killers like mink into the wild, in the name of
'animal welfare'!

There is a *minuscule* minority of extremists in the animal rights
movement who do stupid things, and I'm not going to defend them. Mink
farming is morally indefensible too - that is why it is now outlawed.

Mink farming is no more 'morally indefensible' than any other kind of
intensive farming - but ther are no votes in banning cheap chickens.

Whassamatta, Dormouse? Don't like the idea of some people being able
to afford a sable coat? That's what's *really* behind all your
pathetic lefty posturing, isn't it? No 'moral outrage', just pathetic
jealousy and envy.

They also love to terrorise the innocent (by any
standard) families of people who breed lab animals, but they don't
have the guts to do it openly. Losers and cowards all. Remind you
of anyone, Dormouse?

The vast majority of animal lovers are peaceful. That should be
intuitively obvious!

Lots of people who beat up their own kids, keep animals. So much for
your intuition..............

And how about all those thugs who keep big dogs, and like nothing
better than a good punch-up of a Friday night? :-)

--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Keith its Angus
 

"Ian Molton" wrote in message
...
Dodge McRodgered wrote:

Ian have you tried these guys?? Recommended by a friend..

http://www.stockleyfarm.co.uk/Organic/index.htm

I think they are local to me. I may even have been there, I forget the
name of the local farm I had a vist at a couple years back.

Interestngly, their website is the first one I have come across that can
stiff mozillafirefox 1.0pr (albeit only the one window with their site in
it, not the whole program...)

I've found the Allen & Heath site corpses mozillafirefox I revert to
iexplore for them ;-)

Mike

Keith its Angus
 

On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 21:28:51 +0000, Dodge McRodgered
wrote:

"Stewart Pinkerton" emitted :

So that's what you think of democracy huh?? If only fox hunting wasn't
an indefensible load of bollox..

The unspeakable in pursuit of the uneatable? :-)

LOL ;-)

I can't claim that one, it was Oscar Wilde

One man's poetry is another man's poison...

If you've ever kept chickens, you'll understand why foxes are classed
as vermin, just like rats.

You are vermin but I don't see you being chased by a bunch of toffs?

Once again, you give away your basic jealousy and envy. You've already
been told that hunting folk are not generally 'toffs', and you tried
to weasel out of that one, too.............

BTW.. I keep rats as pets. Several. They're bloomin' lovely... ;-)

Hunting vermin is hardly 'bollox', so why
not have some good healthy fun doing it?

I don't consider cruelty to be "good healthy fun".

Oh please! Go visit a factory farm - or any inner city housing estate
- before you start whining about 'cruelty'.

Three wrongs make a right according to Stewart.

Not arguing the rights and wrongs, just your pathetic and ignorant
'class-war' priorities.

The vermin-control argument is totally fallacious - everybody knows
that. Primarily, it doesn't require dozens of blokes on horses wearing
silly costumes to kill foxes. Just a few guys with rifles.

Either way, the fox is dead. What's your problem?

You are going to die at some point. I wouldn't even want you to
suffer, even though you probably deserve it.

http://tinyurl.com/68lnx

Obvious really,
given your comment about 'silly costumes'. These costumes are very
practical,

"Practical"... LOL! :-)

and the result of centuries of development.

"Development"... LOL! :-)

Class is clearly important to you, Stewart, but I don't pay it any
heed. Many so-called gentry are just cowardly thugs with a mob
mentality. It's those annoying folk who object to violence and cruetly
who spoil the "fun" for them... ;-(

Actually, the *vast* majority of hunt members are very far from
'gentry', it's only ignorant lefty ****s who pretend otherwise,
because they just hate to see *anyone* actually enjoying life.

I don't recall saying "all hunts people are gentry". You must have
imagined that...

You made the connection, so stop trying to slide out of it.

I don't recall saying "all hunts people are gentry" or anything like
that. Your imagination is playing overtime. BTW, it was you who
brought class into the discussion, as you often do. When are you going
to replace that trashy Audi with a ****ing Bentley, you chav-meister.

Was it I who wrote about being 'chased by a bunch of toffs'? You truly
are pathetically transparent, you lying little rodent.


Storming the commons, delaying a rally driving event by blocking
roads, dumping dead animals with placards plunged into their bodies
into the street, vicious attacks on anti-hunt protesters, violent
protests, manure pushed through MP's office letterboxes, Peter Hain's
aide punched, bloody-minded withdrawal of land used by the Ministry of
Defense. Just a few examples of the thuggish behaviour of pro-hunters
trying to retain their olde worlde ways. [Actually only a couple
hundred years old, but let's pretend...]

Is that all you've got? Pathetic. Hardly comparable to idiot hunt sabs
throwing marbles under horses hooves, is it?

You think throwing marbles under a horse is worse than sticking a
stake through it's heart and dumping it in the street? You are one
twisted individual.

Sure I do, since the other horse was already dead, and you 'animal
lovers' were attempting to break the legs of live ones.

There is a *minuscule* minority of extremists in the animal rights
movement who do stupid things, and I'm not going to defend them. Mink
farming is morally indefensible too - that is why it is now outlawed.

Mink farming is no more 'morally indefensible' than any other kind of
intensive farming - but there are no votes in banning cheap chickens.

Perception will change over time, as attitudes in society veers toward
a more civilized world. Those who seek to live in the dark ages will
be ostracized.

We had free-range chickens in the Dark Ages, factory farming is bang
up to date! You really have no idea what you're talking about, do you?
Please point to somewhere in the world which is exhibiting a tendency
to veer towards greater civilisation. First, define 'civilisation'.

Whassamatta, Dormouse? Don't like the idea of some people being able
to afford a sable coat?

No, I'm not interested in having one of those. I wouldn't mind a
Pinkerton jacket though.. would you mind donating your skin when you
perish?

Is that a Nazi argument? :-)

The vast majority of animal lovers are peaceful. That should be
intuitively obvious!

Lots of people who beat up their own kids, keep animals. So much for
your intuition..............

So much for your ability to make a coherent argument....

And how about all those thugs who keep big dogs, and like nothing
better than a good punch-up of a Friday night? :-)

Yes. How about Sainsbury's next Friday?

So much for your ability to make a coherent argument....
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Keith its Angus
 

On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 17:43:42 +0000, Dodge McRodgered
wrote:

You've even
got a fricken' moth-eaten moose head on yer wall, no doubt picked up
at car boot sale.. on farm grounds.. in your wellies. Did you trade
your Rolex in for it?? I note you excluded that from in your second
series of pictures for the uk.rec.audio website...

I haven't owned a Rolex for about seven years, although I do have an
Omega co-axial chronograph, a Breitling Duograph GMT, a Zenith Elite
HW, and an IWC Aquatimer 2000.
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Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering