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Old October 28th 04, 09:40 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
JustMe
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Default The main reason valves & vinyl is better...

Is because I ****ING SAY SO!

I totally agree.

It's the height of arrogance and incredibly ignorant to assume that you
*know* that another person's perception of a subjective issue is wrong.

No one can claim to speak for an experience which they have not lived. You
are not me, therefore you cannot with any respectability, tell me that my
choice of hifi, cable, source - anything that I have chosen as preferable -
is wrong.

In matters of taste, no one can arbitrate what is right or wrong without
exposing themselves to charges of "pompous, arrogant ****" - hence my hifi
is better than yours P


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Old October 29th 04, 07:50 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Stewart Pinkerton
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On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 22:40:36 +0100, "JustMe" wrote:

Is because I ****ING SAY SO!


I totally agree.

It's the height of arrogance and incredibly ignorant to assume that you
*know* that another person's perception of a subjective issue is wrong.


However, in the real physical world, things are simpler.

No one can claim to speak for an experience which they have not lived. You
are not me, therefore you cannot with any respectability, tell me that my
choice of hifi, cable, source - anything that I have chosen as preferable -
is wrong.


We could however point to glaring problems with its fidelity to the
source material! :-)

In matters of taste, no one can arbitrate what is right or wrong without
exposing themselves to charges of "pompous, arrogant ****" - hence my hifi
is better than yours P


I don''t recall any such argument being proposed, in matters of taste.
Of course, there's nothing quite so pompous and arrogant as assuming
that one person has 'better' taste than another - Chavs excepted! :-)
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Old November 1st 04, 04:49 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
JustMe
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Default The main reason valves & vinyl is better...


Is because I ****ING SAY SO!


I totally agree.

It's the height of arrogance and incredibly ignorant to assume that you
*know* that another person's perception of a subjective issue is wrong.


However, in the real physical world, things are simpler.


What can be simpler than saying, "I prefer the sound of x over y"?

Why complicate such a response by debating its merit based on irrelevant
science?

Good music generates a visceral response - why must one man's preference for
one amp over another be called into question at all?

If the response is good, then the artist's work has been served by the
equipment used in its reproduction, whether it be valves, SS, live, vinyl,
CD or MP3.

No one can claim to speak for an experience which they have not lived.

You
are not me, therefore you cannot with any respectability, tell me that my
choice of hifi, cable, source - anything that I have chosen as

preferable -
is wrong.


We could however point to glaring problems with its fidelity to the
source material! :-)


We could but it still doesn't alter my preference for x over y and, as I
state, if my choice stirs something greater inside of me, then surely the
artist is better served then if I listen on equipment which, to my ears and
mind, present the music in an inferior manner.

In matters of taste, no one can arbitrate what is right or wrong without
exposing themselves to charges of "pompous, arrogant ****" - hence my

hifi
is better than yours P


I don''t recall any such argument being proposed, in matters of taste.
Of course, there's nothing quite so pompous and arrogant as assuming
that one person has 'better' taste than another - Chavs excepted! :-)


Who-oh-oh - what's chavs got to do, got to do with it?

Still, if reading the odd article about "youth culture" in The Independent
helps to keep you grounded, then feel free to elbow in the reference - even
if it does make you look pompous and arrogant P


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Old October 29th 04, 01:00 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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"JustMe" wrote in message
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Is because I ****ING SAY SO!


I totally agree.

It's the height of arrogance and incredibly ignorant to assume that you
*know* that another person's perception of a subjective issue is wrong.

No one can claim to speak for an experience which they have not lived. You
are not me, therefore you cannot with any respectability, tell me that my
choice of hifi, cable, source - anything that I have chosen as
preferable -
is wrong.

In matters of taste, no one can arbitrate what is right or wrong without
exposing themselves to charges of "pompous, arrogant ****" - hence my hifi
is better than yours P



OK, I hope it is, then I know you'll have a fekkin' *blinding* system!!

('Cos mine ain't too ****e, I can tell ya!! ;-)

Rock on, Tommy.....

:-)





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Old November 1st 04, 04:54 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
JustMe
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Default The main reason valves & vinyl is better...

Is because I ****ING SAY SO!

I totally agree.

It's the height of arrogance and incredibly ignorant to assume that you
*know* that another person's perception of a subjective issue is wrong.

No one can claim to speak for an experience which they have not lived.

You
are not me, therefore you cannot with any respectability, tell me that

my
choice of hifi, cable, source - anything that I have chosen as
preferable -
is wrong.

In matters of taste, no one can arbitrate what is right or wrong without
exposing themselves to charges of "pompous, arrogant ****" - hence my

hifi
is better than yours P



OK, I hope it is, then I know you'll have a fekkin' *blinding* system!!

('Cos mine ain't too ****e, I can tell ya!! ;-)


That may be so, but my penis is of considerable length and girth and my
father possesses advanced pugulative skills.

Rock on, Tommy.....

:-)


Did you stretch your braces as you said that? Don't let them snap back on
yer nipples.


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Old October 29th 04, 07:22 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Stewart Pinkerton
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Default The main reason valves & vinyl is better...

On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 15:41:52 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

Is because I ****ING SAY SO!


Argued with your usual wit and brilliance.........

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Old October 29th 04, 07:22 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Stewart Pinkerton
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Default The main reason valves & vinyl is better...

On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 15:41:52 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

Is because I ****ING SAY SO!

I gotta be outta here 30 minutes ago, so I'll be *real* brief:

I'm getting a bit hacked off with being branded the bad guy here by people
who have either not been board for than a few minutes (and therefore have no
damn clue)


Hmmm, you'd expect them to be the most unbiased, wouldn't you?

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Old October 29th 04, 12:22 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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Default The main reason valves & vinyl is better...

In article ,
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
I'm getting a bit hacked off with being branded the bad guy here by
people who have either not been board for than a few minutes (and
therefore have no damn clue)


Hmmm, you'd expect them to be the most unbiased, wouldn't you?


I'n also not quite sure just how writing screeds of rubbish to a newsgroup
over years makes one somehow more qualified in the subject?

And I speak with some experience in this. ;-)

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Old October 29th 04, 07:24 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Stewart Pinkerton
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Default The main reason valves & vinyl is better...

On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 15:41:52 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

I am also getting fed up with being told what wording or language is
*permissible* here and I find the accusations that *I'm* being nasty to that
'nice Mr P' here too ****ing ridiculous for words!!


I guess people just respond to what they see, eh Keith? :-)

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Old October 29th 04, 07:26 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Stewart Pinkerton
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Default The main reason valves & vinyl is better...

On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 15:41:52 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

Is because I ****ING SAY SO!


snip usual ********

VALVES AND VINYL ARE BETTER THAN SS/CD. END OF.

*ANYONE* who takes issue with me over this here will be SUMMARILY BINNED -
no exceptions.


Nice to see that you're as receptive to reasoned debate as always.....

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