And again the same can be said for vinyl, I much prefer listening to
vinyl, and think (as others such as Keith do), that the resultant sound
is more engaging, and produces a stronger effect of "being there". but I
don't for one minute think that in absolute terms the incredibly crude
process of playing vinyl will provide anywhere as electrically accurate
reproduction of the originally signal.

I agree with this, I find that if I put a CD on after a while I tend to
wander off and potter about while still listening. With vinyl I stay put
until the music stops, something keeps me there that I don't get from a
CD (and I do own some albums on both vinyl and CD).
I'm getting a valve amp soon but that doesn't mean that I'm getting rid
of my SS amp as I can see myself switching between the two for different
types of music.

Phil

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:04:04 +0100, Phil North
wrote:


And again the same can be said for vinyl, I much prefer listening to
vinyl, and think (as others such as Keith do), that the resultant sound
is more engaging, and produces a stronger effect of "being there". but I
don't for one minute think that in absolute terms the incredibly crude
process of playing vinyl will provide anywhere as electrically accurate
reproduction of the originally signal.

I agree with this, I find that if I put a CD on after a while I tend to
wander off and potter about while still listening. With vinyl I stay put
until the music stops, something keeps me there that I don't get from a
CD (and I do own some albums on both vinyl and CD).
I'm getting a valve amp soon but that doesn't mean that I'm getting rid
of my SS amp as I can see myself switching between the two for different
types of music.

Phil

I'm just the same with vinyl, but I do know why. When I put on a disc
I am physically very involved with it. I don't want to lift the needle
off part way through, because I'm worried I will put yet another tick
into the record. Likewise when it reaches the end I don't want to
leave the stylus scraping around the lead-out groove. It is a very
nervy sort of experience.

And of course a side doesn't last terribly long, so I tend not to
worry about hanging around.

A CD by contrast is a very much more relaxing experience, and I am
quite happy to let it get on with things by itself. If that means that
I wander off for a while, then fine.

d
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

I don't want to lift the needle off part way through, because I'm worried I
will put yet another tick into the record. Likewise when it reaches the end I
don't want to leave the stylus scraping around the lead-out groove. It is a
very nervy sort of experience.

Don - Have you considered getting out more, taking a holiday and spending more
time in healthy tasks like peeling potatoes, digging up the turnips and oiling
the wheelbarrow?

=== Andy Evans ===
Visit our Website:- http://www.artsandmedia.com
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On 29 Oct 2004 12:45:19 GMT, ohawker (Andy
Evans) wrote:

I don't want to lift the needle off part way through, because I'm worried I
will put yet another tick into the record. Likewise when it reaches the end I
don't want to leave the stylus scraping around the lead-out groove. It is a
very nervy sort of experience.

Don - Have you considered getting out more, taking a holiday and spending more
time in healthy tasks like peeling potatoes, digging up the turnips and oiling
the wheelbarrow?


Much easier than that - I just listen to CDS! Incidentally, the 90% of
my vinyl that I still listen to is now on CD ROM, so effectively this
is a dead problem.

I have done the minimum amount of de-clicking (really only in the
inter-track gaps) to make it acceptable, and the job is done.

BTW - you should never peel potatoes. Didn't your mum teach you
nuffink?

d
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

BTW - you should never peel potatoes. Didn't your mum teach you nuffink?

Funny you should say that - she's peeled potatoes all her life and I haven't,
and the one time I do she starts rebuking me and telling me to leave them
unpeeled - a convert!

=== Andy Evans ===
Visit our Website:- http://www.artsandmedia.com
Audio, music and health pages and interesting links.

On 29 Oct 2004 14:27:43 GMT, ohawker (Andy
Evans) wrote:

BTW - you should never peel potatoes. Didn't your mum teach you nuffink?

Funny you should say that - she's peeled potatoes all her life and I haven't,
and the one time I do she starts rebuking me and telling me to leave them
unpeeled - a convert!

Sure she wasn't just being contrary? When I was about sixteen I was
going out one winter's day, and she called to me to put a jumper on. I
showed her I had one, and she thought about it for a moment and said -
your trousers are too thin.

You can't win.

d
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

In article ,
Don Pearce wrote:
Sure she wasn't just being contrary? When I was about sixteen I was
going out one winter's day, and she called to me to put a jumper on. I
showed her I had one, and she thought about it for a moment and said -
your trousers are too thin.

My (Scots) mum:-

"Would you like some of my homemade bramble jelly or blackcurrant jam with
these freshly made pancakes?"

" The bramble jelly, please, mum"

" And what's wrong with the blackcurrant?"

--
*We waste time, so you don't have to *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On 29 Oct 2004 14:27:43 GMT, ohawker (Andy
Evans) wrote:

BTW - you should never peel potatoes. Didn't your mum teach you nuffink?

Funny you should say that - she's peeled potatoes all her life and I haven't,
and the one time I do she starts rebuking me and telling me to leave them
unpeeled - a convert!

So, your mother's become a scrubber, eh? :-)
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

"Phil North" wrote in message
...

And again the same can be said for vinyl, I much prefer listening to
vinyl, and think (as others such as Keith do), that the resultant sound
is more engaging, and produces a stronger effect of "being there". but I
don't for one minute think that in absolute terms the incredibly crude
process of playing vinyl will provide anywhere as electrically accurate
reproduction of the originally signal.

I agree with this, I find that if I put a CD on after a while I tend to
wander off and potter about while still listening. With vinyl I stay put
until the music stops, something keeps me there that I don't get from a CD
(and I do own some albums on both vinyl and CD).
I'm getting a valve amp soon but that doesn't mean that I'm getting rid of
my SS amp as I can see myself switching between the two for different
types of music.



Phil, by your own admission, you know bugger-all about music or audio kit -
how TF do you manage to post more common sense in the above than 90% of the
crap shovelled into this ng???

I will be in touch 'direct' later (quite a bit later, at this rate) about
our awaited amps - expect nothing to arrive before Mon/Tue next week. Have
you been asked to email Proelektra with your postal address? If not, do so
immediately.....

Later.....

Phil North wrote:

I agree with this, I find that if I put a CD on after a while I tend to
wander off and potter about while still listening. With vinyl I stay put
until the music stops,

CDs play longer.