Non-ES speakers closest to electrostatic sound?
 

"Stewart Pinkerton"
"Phil Allison"

There was at least one post that put them
down as "Chinese" speakers having nothing to do with Quad.

http://www.quad-hifi.co.uk/lseriesworks.htm

According to Quad, all parts are designed "in-house".

** Yep - "in house" means in Shenzhen, China - where the Chang
brothers factory is located.

The Changs own IAG ( International Audio Group ) which also owns the
Wharfedale brand - guess where they are made now.

Try not to be such a **** here as you are in RAT.

** Go to *straight into hell* you vile lump of pommy excrement.

Argued with your usual wit and brilliance.............



** There is no point in wasting pearls on pathological, pommy swine like
you.



Shame all the components are made in the Chinese factory.

No shame at all, lots of good stuff is made in China these days.


** Shame speakers are not among them.



Yes, they are *manufactured* in China, but to a UK design suited to UK
ears and rooms.

** It is a Chinese made speaker - badged "Quad" to dramatically
increased
the price and fleece the gullible.

Xenophobic ****.


** Argued with your usual wit and brilliance........

The wit of a ****wit and the brilliance of a dead torch bulb.


Stewart Pinkerton | Bull**** Artist - Public Masturbator.




............ Phil

Non-ES speakers closest to electrostatic sound?
 

"Ian Molton"
Eiron wrote:

We haven't had a good argument about current dumping for a long time.
Peter Walker's maths stinks. The 405 is just a non-linear amp
with lots of negative feedback and no adjustments to be made.

I happen to find my 405 to work rather well. can you expound on your claim
a bit? where is his math faulty?



** Don't waste your time on this Eiron fruitcake - the Quad 405 et alia
work as advertised.





............... Phil

Non-ES speakers closest to electrostatic sound?
 

Ian Molton wrote:

Eiron wrote:

We haven't had a good argument about current dumping for a long time.
Peter Walker's maths stinks. The 405 is just a non-linear amp
with lots of negative feedback and no adjustments to be made.


I happen to find my 405 to work rather well. can you expound on your
claim a bit? where is his math faulty?

I didn't say the 405 doesn't work.

The article from Wireless World, Dec 1975 by P.J. Walker is at
http://www.quadesl.org/Family_Album/...elessW1975.doc

When you understand fig. 1. you may be qualified to discuss the subject.

--
Eiron.

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In article , Phil Allison
writes

"Stewart Pinkerton"
tony sayer



Yes that is very impressive;) How many moving coil designs could do
that....

All Dunlavys, for a start.


** Mr Sayer did a very bad thing - he snipped the second half of my post
re the ESL 63 factory test prior to adding his remark.


Proffer me 'err profuse apologies guv, but U must admit sometimes a bit
of snipping isn't soo bad;(

Then that Pinkerton ****wit replied, half cocked, to the sniped post -
which is typical for someone with half a brain.
--
Tony Sayer

Non-ES speakers closest to electrostatic sound?
 

Phil Allison wrote:
"Ian Molton"

Eiron wrote:


We haven't had a good argument about current dumping for a long time.
Peter Walker's maths stinks. The 405 is just a non-linear amp
with lots of negative feedback and no adjustments to be made.

I happen to find my 405 to work rather well. can you expound on your claim
a bit? where is his math faulty?

** Don't waste your time on this Eiron fruitcake - the Quad 405 et alia
work as advertised.

Well, mine doesnt since I broke it but I intend to rebuild it... :-)

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"Joseph Oberlander" wrote in message
hlink.net...


Alex wrote:

For those audiophiles who'd like to own a Quad 988 but lack the budget,
or the room, or both, which of the non-ES speakers come closest to that
magical electrostatic sound? [Answers from friends have ranged from
well known current brands (Dynaudio) to discontinued models I didn't
know about (DCM Time Window).]

Magnepan.


Dumb ass!

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"Alex" wrote in message ...
Arny Krueger wrote:

: For those audiophiles who'd like to own a Quad 988 but lack the
: budget, or the room, or both, which of the non-ES speakers come
: closest to that magical electrostatic sound?
:
: IOW, a wannabe speaker?
:
: Rule of thumb - you get better results when you seek things that are
: true to their own identity.

Well, I love the sound of Quads but they just won't fit into my small
living room. They are simply too wide. I need a conventional "tower"
speaker. Which one(s) would you recommend?

Genelec S30D. Amp included.

Cheers,

Margaret

Non-ES speakers closest to electrostatic sound?
 

In rec.audio.tech Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 09:08:20 +0000, tony sayer
wrote:

In article , Phil Allison
writes

"Dave Plowman

Electrostats may not be completely time coherent, but as they have a
single driver,

But they don't.


** The ESL 63 / 988 is highly phase ( time ) coherent and uses 8
independent panels.

Production units are tested in the factory against a calibrated reference
unit using 1 kHz square wave drive. The signal from a measurement mic 2
metres on axis of the unit under test is viewed on a scope and must produce
a good square wave there.

Yes that is very impressive;) How many moving coil designs could do
that....

All Dunlavys, for a start.

Over a very limited angle, especially vertically. A square wave through the
ESL-63 still retains its integrity over virtually any angle.

But you already knew that.

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Also anything in your size/price range from Avalon Acoustics. The Eidolon
Diamond is arguably the most transparent dynamic speaker in existence.

Margaret



"Alex" wrote in message ...
Arny Krueger wrote:

: For those audiophiles who'd like to own a Quad 988 but lack the
: budget, or the room, or both, which of the non-ES speakers come
: closest to that magical electrostatic sound?
:
: IOW, a wannabe speaker?
:
: Rule of thumb - you get better results when you seek things that are
: true to their own identity.

Well, I love the sound of Quads but they just won't fit into my small
living room. They are simply too wide. I need a conventional "tower"
speaker. Which one(s) would you recommend?

Non-ES speakers closest to electrostatic sound?
 

"Margaret von Busenhalter-Butt" wrote in message
...
Also anything in your size/price range from Avalon Acoustics. The Eidolon
Diamond is arguably the most transparent dynamic speaker in existence.

Margaret

However, the upper crust Avalons feature instrument placement that is
pinpoint accurate in a way that cannot be replicated with any ES (or other
speaker) that I know of. Some people like it more than others. And as far as
the soundstage is concerned, the Avalons can match the width but not the
height of really good stats. OTOH, no stat (or other speaker) that I know of
can match the soundstage depth of the better Avalons.

Cheers,

Margaret