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Fleetie November 7th 04 12:52 PM

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"Dave H."
"Phil Allison" wrote


** Yep - as before, I will fearlessly expose excremental pommy ****s
like Pinkerton to the condemnation of all decent persons as he so richly
deserves.


Hmmm.... does one detect the merest hint of racism here?


racism != xenophobia




Ian Molton November 7th 04 01:40 PM

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Phil Allison wrote:

** Yep - as before, I will fearlessly expose excremental pommy ****s
like Pinkerton to the condemnation of all decent persons as he so richly
deserves.


Something tells me you arent from the UK. could you kindly **** off out
of uk.rec.audio ?

George M. Middius November 7th 04 01:48 PM

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Ian Molton said:

Something tells me you arent from the UK. could you kindly **** off out
of uk.rec.audio ?


If foreigners bother you so much, maybe you shouldn't keep cross-posting.
Perhaps you're mentally handicapped, though, and you have difficulty
understanding cause and effect.




mick November 7th 04 03:01 PM

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On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 09:48:41 -0500, George M. Middius wrote:



Ian Molton said:

Something tells me you arent from the UK. could you kindly **** off out
of uk.rec.audio ?


If foreigners bother you so much, maybe you shouldn't keep cross-posting.
Perhaps you're mentally handicapped, though, and you have difficulty
understanding cause and effect.


grin
I don't think Ian is particularly anti-foreigner, just anti-Phil (who is
a clued up bloke, but has the attitude of a belligerent kangeroo at
times!). Have you read rec.audio.tubes? It can be "enlightening". ;-)

Follow ups trimmed to this group only.
--
Mick
(no M$ software on here... :-) )
Web: http://www.nascom.info



The Devil November 7th 04 03:56 PM

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On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 19:32:47 GMT, alex wrote:

Price for 988 but space as well. Otherwise I could afford a used
ESL-63. The Quads are too wide for my room. A narrower speaker (could
be taller) is what I need.


Oh dear, then.

Interesting. Considering that Proac, Dynaudio, and Spendor are 3 of the
very best. Are the Quads your favorite "tower" speakers (small in floor
area, as tall as need be)?


I do beg your pardon. I misread your post. I thought you were asking
how Quad's ESLs compared to Proac, Dynaudio and Spendor. I like all
four brands' dynamic offerings, but couldn't live with any of them. I
just don't get on with dynamic speakers for very long, no matter how
charming they are at first.

There was at least one post that put them
down as "Chinese" speakers having nothing to do with Quad.


They're made in China, but were designed in the UK. In the case of the
988s, it's just a refinement of the 63, using better quality
transformers (designed by Andy Grove), better stators (higher copper
quotient) and a much-improved frame for holding it all together. The
989s are identical to the 988s except for two extra radiators on the
last delay line.

: Make room and get some used 63s. :-)

I have thought of that and not quite given up yet. However, it does run
into hard limitations, like my wife's opinion, room size, why we must
live in an urban situation, etc.


Divorce, knock down walls and combine rooms, etc. Always ways around
these problems. :-)

--
td

The Devil November 7th 04 04:35 PM

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On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 20:21:17 +0000 (UTC), Stewart Pinkerton
wrote:

Hey Graham, welcome back! :-)


Where did I go? Hailing from the political sewer that is RAO at the
moment.

Do those UKRA chaps know you secretly use SETs and horns? :-)

--
td

Alex November 7th 04 05:00 PM

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The Devil wrote:

: Interesting. Considering that Proac, Dynaudio, and Spendor are 3
: of the very best. Are the Quads your favorite "tower" speakers
: (small in floor area, as tall as need be)?
:
: I do beg your pardon. I misread your post. I thought you were asking
: how Quad's ESLs compared to Proac, Dynaudio and Spendor.

More accurately, which if any of the dynamic speakers come closest
to the esl sound.

However, then we had this exchnage:

: : I understand Quad have their own box speakers now. You'd expect
: : them to produce the family sound, but do they? ...
: : How do they do against Proacs, Dynaudios, Spendors?
: :
: : Much better.

I took this to mean that in your opinion not just ESL's but Quad's
dymanic speakers were also much better than "Proacs, Dynaudios,
Spendors".

Sorry if I contributed to any misunderstanding. My search is simple, to
explain at least. Quad ESL's are too wide for my room. I am looking for
tower speakers that come closest in the sound quality.

Sander deWaal November 7th 04 06:35 PM

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The Devil said:

On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 20:21:17 +0000 (UTC), Stewart Pinkerton
wrote:

Hey Graham, welcome back! :-)


Where did I go? Hailing from the political sewer that is RAO at the
moment.

Do those UKRA chaps know you secretly use SETs and horns? :-)


Schizophrenia! You two are the same person!

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

Stewart Pinkerton November 7th 04 06:38 PM

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On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 17:35:22 +0000, The Devil wrote:

On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 20:21:17 +0000 (UTC), Stewart Pinkerton
wrote:

Hey Graham, welcome back! :-)


Where did I go? Hailing from the political sewer that is RAO at the
moment.


Ah! Darned cross-posting! I dragged myself out of that slough of
despond years ago............

Do those UKRA chaps know you secretly use SETs and horns? :-)


No they don't, we try to stick to facts on UKRA.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Stewart Pinkerton November 7th 04 06:40 PM

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On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 18:00:20 GMT, alex wrote:

The Devil wrote:

: Interesting. Considering that Proac, Dynaudio, and Spendor are 3
: of the very best. Are the Quads your favorite "tower" speakers
: (small in floor area, as tall as need be)?
:
: I do beg your pardon. I misread your post. I thought you were asking
: how Quad's ESLs compared to Proac, Dynaudio and Spendor.

More accurately, which if any of the dynamic speakers come closest
to the esl sound.


None, because none of them are large planar dipoles.

However, then we had this exchnage:

: : I understand Quad have their own box speakers now. You'd expect
: : them to produce the family sound, but do they? ...
: : How do they do against Proacs, Dynaudios, Spendors?
: :
: : Much better.

I took this to mean that in your opinion not just ESL's but Quad's
dymanic speakers were also much better than "Proacs, Dynaudios,
Spendors".

Sorry if I contributed to any misunderstanding. My search is simple, to
explain at least. Quad ESL's are too wide for my room. I am looking for
tower speakers that come closest in the sound quality.


Sorry, you won't find any, although there are certainly some good
towers around. Try Spendors for a good natural sound, or the excellent
B&W N804.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering


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