1) this ng is for those who measure with equipment and who measure with their
ears

1. Most emphatically no. Listen any way you like, and post whatever opinions
you like, but if you announce the discovery of some effect that the rest of us
believe to be impossible - be prepared to defend
it, not moan about being challenged. (DP)

Well, this ng most emphatically IS for people who measure how they like. You
are quite right to say "If you want us to believe a statement, supply
measurements and proof" No problem. But I believe I was saying from the start
"I have made an observation which I believe I hear and I have no idea why, plus
I don't have measuring equipment so I'm not in a position to measure it. Has
anybody else observed such a thing". If you want to say "I don't believe you"
that's fine. In purely scientific terms the burden of proof lies with the
person making an assertion - fair enough. This doesn't make a statement like "I
have always found girls with first names ending in the letter a to be more
passionate" entirely uninteresting.

=== Andy Evans ===
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On 08 Nov 2004 10:06:52 GMT, ohawker (Andy
Evans) wrote:

1) this ng is for those who measure with equipment and who measure with their
ears

1. Most emphatically no. Listen any way you like, and post whatever opinions
you like, but if you announce the discovery of some effect that the rest of us
believe to be impossible - be prepared to defend
it, not moan about being challenged. (DP)

Well, this ng most emphatically IS for people who measure how they like. You
are quite right to say "If you want us to believe a statement, supply
measurements and proof" No problem. But I believe I was saying from the start
"I have made an observation which I believe I hear and I have no idea why, plus
I don't have measuring equipment so I'm not in a position to measure it. Has
anybody else observed such a thing". If you want to say "I don't believe you"
that's fine. In purely scientific terms the burden of proof lies with the
person making an assertion - fair enough. This doesn't make a statement like "I
have always found girls with first names ending in the letter a to be more
passionate" entirely uninteresting.


I think the question here is what constitutes a measurement. If you
have hung a scope on an output, you have made a measurement. If you
have made a double blind, level matched test between two items, and
found a significant (chi squared) difference, then you have made a
measurement every bit as valid as the first.

d
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

I think the question here is what constitutes a measurement. If you
have hung a scope on an output, you have made a measurement. If you
have made a double blind, level matched test between two items, and
found a significant (chi squared) difference, then you have made a
measurement every bit as valid as the first.

Again, a fair point.

=== Andy Evans ===
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Audio, music and health pages and interesting links.