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Old November 26th 04, 08:32 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Don Pearce
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Default Speaker cable termination choice

On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 09:11:43 +0000, Ronnie Davis
wrote:

Hi,

Looking to replace my bi-wired speaker cable terminations. My local hi-fi
dealer is selling banana plugs at £1.50 which are the ones which don't need
soldering.

Does anyone know where I purchase these online cheaper?

Are they as easy to fit as the dealer says?

Also, what are the best type of terminations ... spade or banana?

Many thanks,

Ronnie.


Maplin have them t 49p. Spades are possibly very slightly better when
they are really tight, but because of their geometry, they do tend to
loosen when cables move - particularly heavy cables such as you use
for speakers.

I use banana plugs very successfully.

You can always tighten the binding post down on to the bare end of the
cable. This works well, but beware of loose strands shorting. Don't
twist the strands together when you do this - let them flatten out
under the pressure.

d
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com
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Old November 26th 04, 09:09 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Mike Gilmour
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Default Speaker cable termination choice


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 09:11:43 +0000, Ronnie Davis
wrote:

Hi,

Looking to replace my bi-wired speaker cable terminations. My local hi-fi
dealer is selling banana plugs at £1.50 which are the ones which don't
need
soldering.

Does anyone know where I purchase these online cheaper?

Are they as easy to fit as the dealer says?

Also, what are the best type of terminations ... spade or banana?

Many thanks,

Ronnie.


Maplin have them t 49p. Spades are possibly very slightly better when
they are really tight, but because of their geometry, they do tend to
loosen when cables move - particularly heavy cables such as you use
for speakers.

I use banana plugs very successfully.

You can always tighten the binding post down on to the bare end of the
cable. This works well, but beware of loose strands shorting. Don't
twist the strands together when you do this - let them flatten out
under the pressure.

d
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com



When you've tightened down a bare cable to a binding post wait a few hours
then retighten - you'll always get a bit more clamping power without
overtightening the connection. The same applies to 'choc bloc' terminal
strips - when they are fully tight, wait - then tighten again. (The clamped
cable does relax over a short time).
Being involved in marine installations over many years where constant cycles
of heat/cold and constant vibration are the norm then such procedure is
necessary for long term connection reliability Hopefully your hifi doesn't
endure quite those environmental conditions :-)

Mike


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Old November 26th 04, 10:26 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
JustMe
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Default Speaker cable termination choice

"Mike Gilmour" wrote in message
...

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 09:11:43 +0000, Ronnie Davis
wrote:

Hi,

Looking to replace my bi-wired speaker cable terminations. My local

hi-fi
dealer is selling banana plugs at £1.50 which are the ones which don't
need
soldering.

Does anyone know where I purchase these online cheaper?

Are they as easy to fit as the dealer says?

Also, what are the best type of terminations ... spade or banana?

Many thanks,

Ronnie.


Maplin have them t 49p. Spades are possibly very slightly better when
they are really tight, but because of their geometry, they do tend to
loosen when cables move - particularly heavy cables such as you use
for speakers.

I use banana plugs very successfully.

You can always tighten the binding post down on to the bare end of the
cable. This works well, but beware of loose strands shorting. Don't
twist the strands together when you do this - let them flatten out
under the pressure.

d
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com



When you've tightened down a bare cable to a binding post wait a few hours
then retighten - you'll always get a bit more clamping power without
overtightening the connection. The same applies to 'choc bloc' terminal
strips - when they are fully tight, wait - then tighten again. (The

clamped
cable does relax over a short time).
Being involved in marine installations over many years where constant

cycles
of heat/cold and constant vibration are the norm then such procedure is
necessary for long term connection reliability Hopefully your hifi

doesn't
endure quite those environmental conditions :-)

Mike


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Rhythm and timing at a "Busted" concert


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Old November 26th 04, 10:44 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Tim S Kemp
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Default Speaker cable termination choice

JustMe wrote:

Rhythm and timing at a "Busted" concert


Oh please... don't.... my son is being taken to see them on Saturday - I
refused to go.

--
"Get a paper bag"


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Old November 26th 04, 10:59 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Don Pearce
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On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 11:44:28 -0000, "Tim S Kemp"
wrote:

JustMe wrote:

Rhythm and timing at a "Busted" concert


Oh please... don't.... my son is being taken to see them on Saturday - I
refused to go.


Your SON? Busted are strictly for pre-pubertal girls. He is going to
feel very intimidated there.

d

Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com
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Old November 26th 04, 12:41 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Tim S Kemp
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Don Pearce wrote:
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 11:44:28 -0000, "Tim S Kemp"
wrote:

JustMe wrote:

Rhythm and timing at a "Busted" concert


Oh please... don't.... my son is being taken to see them on Saturday
- I refused to go.


Your SON? Busted are strictly for pre-pubertal girls. He is going to
feel very intimidated there.


I know, he's ten, I'm getting worried about him already.

He's going with a couple of girls though.



--
"Get a paper bag"


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Old November 26th 04, 12:46 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Don Pearce
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Default Speaker cable termination choice

On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 13:41:01 -0000, "Tim S Kemp"
wrote:

Don Pearce wrote:
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 11:44:28 -0000, "Tim S Kemp"
wrote:

JustMe wrote:

Rhythm and timing at a "Busted" concert

Oh please... don't.... my son is being taken to see them on Saturday
- I refused to go.


Your SON? Busted are strictly for pre-pubertal girls. He is going to
feel very intimidated there.


I know, he's ten, I'm getting worried about him already.

He's going with a couple of girls though.


He is going to come back traumatized. Those little girls are the
world's most terrifying creatures.

d
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com
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Old November 26th 04, 04:44 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Glenn Booth
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Default Speaker cable termination choice

Hi,

In message , Don Pearce
writes
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 11:44:28 -0000, "Tim S Kemp"
wrote:

JustMe wrote:

Rhythm and timing at a "Busted" concert


Oh please... don't.... my son is being taken to see them on Saturday - I
refused to go.


Your SON? Busted are strictly for pre-pubertal girls. He is going to
feel very intimidated there.


That's *exactly* why my son likes them. I have to confess that it's
quite amusing watching him bounce up and down with his plastic guitar
howling "I've been to the year three thousand" though. Maybe he'll grow
out of it when he's five...

--
Regards,
Glenn Booth
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Old November 26th 04, 04:56 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Don Pearce
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Default Speaker cable termination choice

On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 17:44:18 +0000, Glenn Booth
wrote:

Hi,

In message , Don Pearce
writes
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 11:44:28 -0000, "Tim S Kemp"
wrote:

JustMe wrote:

Rhythm and timing at a "Busted" concert

Oh please... don't.... my son is being taken to see them on Saturday - I
refused to go.


Your SON? Busted are strictly for pre-pubertal girls. He is going to
feel very intimidated there.


That's *exactly* why my son likes them. I have to confess that it's
quite amusing watching him bounce up and down with his plastic guitar
howling "I've been to the year three thousand" though. Maybe he'll grow
out of it when he's five...


Lets hope he lives a long time - remember that if he lives those extra
two thousand years he gets to meet his great granddaughter.

makes you weep...

d

Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com
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Old November 26th 04, 06:34 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Tim S Kemp
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Default Speaker cable termination choice

Glenn Booth wrote:
Hi,

In message , Don Pearce
writes
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 11:44:28 -0000, "Tim S Kemp"
wrote:

JustMe wrote:

Rhythm and timing at a "Busted" concert

Oh please... don't.... my son is being taken to see them on
Saturday - I refused to go.


Your SON? Busted are strictly for pre-pubertal girls. He is going to
feel very intimidated there.


That's *exactly* why my son likes them. I have to confess that it's
quite amusing watching him bounce up and down with his plastic guitar
howling "I've been to the year three thousand" though. Maybe he'll
grow out of it when he's five...


Oh dear.... at least he's not singing "I messed my pants when we flew over
france"

--
"Get a paper bag"


 




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