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Old November 26th 04, 02:52 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Mike Gilmour
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Mike Gilmour wrote:
"Tighten PCB mounted terminal blocks to 3 inch-pounds of torque. Always
tighten terminals twice - First initially, then once again after 5 to 10
minutes. This prevents the terminal block from loosening due to
relaxation of the metal in the wire"


3 in.lbs? Easy to exceed that with a jeweller's screwdriver...



Yep, a mini-block on a pcb, its just an example - thats all.


That's good enough for me....



Perhaps. Doubt it has any relevance to speaker terminals, though.


Very relevant I would have thought with bare wire connections.


They're likely to need checking once in a while through vibration.


Exactly!


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Old November 26th 04, 04:44 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Glenn Booth
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Hi,

In message , Don Pearce
writes
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 11:44:28 -0000, "Tim S Kemp"
wrote:

JustMe wrote:

Rhythm and timing at a "Busted" concert


Oh please... don't.... my son is being taken to see them on Saturday - I
refused to go.


Your SON? Busted are strictly for pre-pubertal girls. He is going to
feel very intimidated there.


That's *exactly* why my son likes them. I have to confess that it's
quite amusing watching him bounce up and down with his plastic guitar
howling "I've been to the year three thousand" though. Maybe he'll grow
out of it when he's five...

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Old November 26th 04, 04:44 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Stewart Pinkerton
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On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 11:07:29 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Mike Gilmour wrote:
When you've tightened down a bare cable to a binding post wait a few
hours then retighten - you'll always get a bit more clamping power
without overtightening the connection. The same applies to 'choc bloc'
terminal strips - when they are fully tight, wait - then tighten again.
(The clamped cable does relax over a short time).


Good grief. Considering the number of such terminals in the average house
carrying a great deal more current, I'm surprised there's not fires
everywhere. ;-)


That's why house wiring is required to be solid core, and plugs have
fuses in them................

BTW, that's still good advice even if you are wiring a house - go
round the junction boxes again the next day. You'd be surprised how
often you'll get an extra half-turn.

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Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering
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Old November 26th 04, 04:56 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Don Pearce
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On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 17:44:18 +0000, Glenn Booth
wrote:

Hi,

In message , Don Pearce
writes
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 11:44:28 -0000, "Tim S Kemp"
wrote:

JustMe wrote:

Rhythm and timing at a "Busted" concert

Oh please... don't.... my son is being taken to see them on Saturday - I
refused to go.


Your SON? Busted are strictly for pre-pubertal girls. He is going to
feel very intimidated there.


That's *exactly* why my son likes them. I have to confess that it's
quite amusing watching him bounce up and down with his plastic guitar
howling "I've been to the year three thousand" though. Maybe he'll grow
out of it when he's five...


Lets hope he lives a long time - remember that if he lives those extra
two thousand years he gets to meet his great granddaughter.

makes you weep...

d

Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com
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Old November 26th 04, 06:32 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Tim S Kemp
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Same with most plugs - although MK types with the nut arrangement will
snap the studs if you're *very* brutal.


I use a lot of MK stuff... I find cheapos will not tighten enough for my
liking. Solid core wiring stuff rarely works loose like flex anyhow.

However, far more under tighten than break them. Due to using a silly
small screwdriver.


Indeed - right tool for the job... Now where's that kitchen knife love...



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Old November 26th 04, 06:34 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Tim S Kemp
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Glenn Booth wrote:
Hi,

In message , Don Pearce
writes
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 11:44:28 -0000, "Tim S Kemp"
wrote:

JustMe wrote:

Rhythm and timing at a "Busted" concert

Oh please... don't.... my son is being taken to see them on
Saturday - I refused to go.


Your SON? Busted are strictly for pre-pubertal girls. He is going to
feel very intimidated there.


That's *exactly* why my son likes them. I have to confess that it's
quite amusing watching him bounce up and down with his plastic guitar
howling "I've been to the year three thousand" though. Maybe he'll
grow out of it when he's five...


Oh dear.... at least he's not singing "I messed my pants when we flew over
france"

--
"Get a paper bag"


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Old November 26th 04, 06:35 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Tim S Kemp
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Default Speaker cable termination choice

Don Pearce wrote:

That's *exactly* why my son likes them. I have to confess that it's
quite amusing watching him bounce up and down with his plastic guitar
howling "I've been to the year three thousand" though. Maybe he'll
grow out of it when he's five...


Lets hope he lives a long time - remember that if he lives those extra
two thousand years he gets to meet his great granddaughter.

makes you weep...


great great great granddaughter, and it's only a thousand years, so that's a
nice, believable 200-250 years per generation, not the far fetched 700 years
you just made out....
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Old November 26th 04, 08:56 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Glenn Booth
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Default Speaker cable termination choice

Hi,

In message , Tim S Kemp
writes
Don Pearce wrote:

That's *exactly* why my son likes them. I have to confess that it's
quite amusing watching him bounce up and down with his plastic guitar
howling "I've been to the year three thousand" though. Maybe he'll
grow out of it when he's five...


Lets hope he lives a long time - remember that if he lives those extra
two thousand years he gets to meet his great granddaughter.

makes you weep...


great great great granddaughter, and it's only a thousand years, so that's a
nice, believable 200-250 years per generation, not the far fetched 700 years
you just made out....


Yeah, and we're just *bound* to have evolved gills by then, it stands to
reason. Shoot them on sight, I say, and bring back The Birdie Song.

On the other hand...
--
Regards,
Glenn Booth
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Old November 26th 04, 09:10 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
tony sayer
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In article , Mike Gilmour
writes

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Mike Gilmour wrote:
When you've tightened down a bare cable to a binding post wait a few
hours then retighten - you'll always get a bit more clamping power
without overtightening the connection. The same applies to 'choc bloc'
terminal strips - when they are fully tight, wait - then tighten again.
(The clamped cable does relax over a short time).


Good grief. Considering the number of such terminals in the average house
carrying a great deal more current, I'm surprised there's not fires
everywhere. ;-)

--
*Born free - taxed to death *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.



Its just informing HiFi folk (who are generally fussy) that they can tighten
down connections some more - no harm in that. Considering houses are not
subject to constant vibration this hardly applies to domestic ring mains,
cookers etc. Actually there are quite a few incidents of arcing and
localised heating due to loose 13A socket terminal connections but because
the area being metal clad and grounded it generally goes no further (ask any
leccy)

Mike



Do like my old dad did who was a mechanic on spitfires in the war.
Ring off, and back off half a turn after all if it all went bang over
France Germany North sea wherever the user wasn't too likely to come
back complaining;(
--
Tony Sayer

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Old November 26th 04, 09:12 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
tony sayer
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In article , Don Pearce donaldun@spamfr
eepearce.uk.com writes
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 11:44:28 -0000, "Tim S Kemp"
wrote:

JustMe wrote:

Rhythm and timing at a "Busted" concert


Oh please... don't.... my son is being taken to see them on Saturday - I
refused to go.


Your SON? Busted are strictly for pre-pubertal girls. He is going to
feel very intimidated there.

Quite.. even then my 9 Y/O daughter has outgrown them.

She's taken an unhealthy interest in heavy metal;(

--
Tony Sayer

 




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