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Old December 7th 04, 01:43 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
sreekant
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Hi guys

I am currently considering setting up a computer based recording studio.
I already chose the recording software but when I tried the microphones
I bought from currys etc the recording is pretty bad.

My idea is to have a small foldable soundproofing booth in the front
room, a good quality mike, a good soundcard and perhaps some sort of
equip that goes between the mike output and soundcard input ? mixer.

If anyone can shine some light on it, I would appreciate it. As you can
see I am a newbie to this.

Is is a mixer or preamp that I need to be able to connect good quality
microphones to the soundcard input!

Also my budget for soundcard and microphone is around £200 . If anyone
has any suggestions please fire away. It will be used mainly to record
voice.

Thanks
sreekant
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Old December 7th 04, 03:48 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
James Perrett
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sreekant wrote:

Hi guys

I am currently considering setting up a computer based recording studio.
I already chose the recording software but when I tried the microphones
I bought from currys etc the recording is pretty bad.

My idea is to have a small foldable soundproofing booth in the front
room, a good quality mike, a good soundcard and perhaps some sort of
equip that goes between the mike output and soundcard input ? mixer.

If anyone can shine some light on it, I would appreciate it. As you can
see I am a newbie to this.

Is is a mixer or preamp that I need to be able to connect good quality
microphones to the soundcard input!

Also my budget for soundcard and microphone is around £200 . If anyone
has any suggestions please fire away. It will be used mainly to record
voice.

Thanks
sreekant


I'd take a look at http://www.soundonsound.com for a start.

Cheers.

James.
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Old December 7th 04, 03:54 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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In article ,
sreekant wrote:
Is is a mixer or preamp that I need to be able to connect good quality
microphones to the soundcard input!


Also my budget for soundcard and microphone is around £200 . If anyone
has any suggestions please fire away. It will be used mainly to record
voice.


Decent voice recording tends to be as difficult a task as most mics ever
get - we all have the chance to compare it to the real thing quite easily,
after all.

Most decent mics suitable for this will be capacitor mics and phantom
powered - which usually means using them in conjunction with a suitable
mixer, and would be hard to achieve new within your budget. However, good
secondhand mics etc are available on the likes of Ebay.

I'm not sure about your portable sound proofing booth. It's likely to make
the sound very 'boxy'. I'd prefer a slight amount of natural room acoustic
- even if this means a slight increase in background sounds, which you're
unlikely to eradicate with a booth anyway. Experimenting with the mic
distance will give a good compromise.

As regards makes for mixer and mics, I'll leave that to others - I'm more
used to pro types which will be rather outside your budget.

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Old December 7th 04, 06:03 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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Most decent mics suitable for this will be capacitor mics and phantom
powered - which usually means using them in conjunction with a suitable
mixer, and would be hard to achieve new within your budget. However, good
secondhand mics etc are available on the likes of Ebay.

There are a few mixers under £100. Does anyone know their suitability!
They are at

http://www.jbsmusic.co.uk/validate07...orig_rowid=525
http://www.jbsmusic.co.uk/validate07...orig_rowid=149


I'm not sure about your portable sound proofing booth. It's likely to make
the sound very 'boxy'. I'd prefer a slight amount of natural room acoustic
- even if this means a slight increase in background sounds, which you're
unlikely to eradicate with a booth anyway. Experimenting with the mic
distance will give a good compromise.


I was thinking of creating a soundbooth with double layered styrofoam
kind of material with dimensions of approx 6ftx8ft. Would it still give
boxy sound or would it be fine. I need quite good quality sound but
after counting the amount of hours possibly needed for all the voice
chaps at studio, the bill seem to run too high, hence the home recording.

Thanks
sreekant
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Old December 7th 04, 10:09 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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Hi there

There are a few mixers under £100. Does anyone know their suitability!
They are at

http://www.jbsmusic.co.uk/validate07...orig_rowid=525
http://www.jbsmusic.co.uk/validate07...orig_rowid=149

Besides can any one comment on these two below !

http://www.gear4music.com/index.php?...code=STUDIOPB1
http://www.gear4music.com/index.php?...ls&pcode=UB802


I was thinking of creating a soundbooth with double layered styrofoam
kind of material with dimensions of approx 6ftx8ft. Would it still give
boxy sound or would it be fine. I need quite good quality sound but
after counting the amount of hours possibly needed for all the voice
chaps at studio, the bill seem to run too high, hence the home recording.

Thanks
sreekant

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Old December 8th 04, 12:47 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
James Perrett
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sreekant wrote:


I was thinking of creating a soundbooth with double layered styrofoam
kind of material with dimensions of approx 6ftx8ft. Would it still give
boxy sound or would it be fine. I need quite good quality sound but
after counting the amount of hours possibly needed for all the voice
chaps at studio, the bill seem to run too high, hence the home recording.


If you are looking at mixers under 100 pounds then a Soundcraft Folio
Notepad is worth looking at. Go to http://www.studiospares.com and
browse their cataloge.

If you want to improve your acoustics on a tight budget then duvets are
apparently the way to go - see most of the Studio SOS articles in Sound
On Sound magazine. Styrofoam won't really help much.


Cheers.

James.
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Old December 8th 04, 02:16 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Iain M Churches
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"sreekant" wrote in message
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Hi guys

I am currently considering setting up a computer based recording studio.
I already chose the recording software but when I tried the microphones
I bought from currys etc the recording is pretty bad.

My idea is to have a small foldable soundproofing booth in the front
room, a good quality mike, a good soundcard and perhaps some sort of
equip that goes between the mike output and soundcard input ? mixer.

If anyone can shine some light on it, I would appreciate it. As you can
see I am a newbie to this.

Is is a mixer or preamp that I need to be able to connect good quality
microphones to the soundcard input!

Also my budget for soundcard and microphone is around £200 . If anyone
has any suggestions please fire away. It will be used mainly to record
voice.

Thanks
sreekant


I don't want to put a damper on your enthusiasm, but I wonder if
you will achieve results that will please you on such a shoestring budget.
You might be better off renting some time (for vocals at least) in a
professional studio with a competent engineer who can offer you a
Neumann condenser microphone, a good compressor/limiter, and some
realistic sounding reverb for the vocal. Most vocalists perform better when
the foldback and monitor reverb for the vocal is "just right" . This takes
some
skill to achieve. I think you should put yourself in the hands of a
professional
who knows how to achieve the sound you are looking for. if you have some
particular vocal sound in mind, take a CD for the engineer to listen to, and
work with him to achieve your goal.

Many studios offer "cancelled time" at very cheap rates. By taking advantage
of this, you have a much better chance of reaching the standard you are
seeking.

Cordially,

Iain


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Old December 8th 04, 02:54 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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Default help setting up a recording studio at home!

In article ,
sreekant wrote:
I need quite good quality sound but
after counting the amount of hours possibly needed for all the voice
chaps at studio, the bill seem to run too high, hence the home recording.


Are you aiming at recording the spoken word (as I assumed), or someone
singing? If singing, what type of music?

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Old December 8th 04, 07:22 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Roy
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"James Perrett" wrote in message
...
sreekant wrote:


I was thinking of creating a soundbooth with double layered styrofoam
kind of material with dimensions of approx 6ftx8ft. Would it still give
boxy sound or would it be fine. I need quite good quality sound but
after counting the amount of hours possibly needed for all the voice
chaps at studio, the bill seem to run too high, hence the home

recording.

If you are looking at mixers under 100 pounds then a Soundcraft Folio
Notepad is worth looking at. Go to http://www.studiospares.com and
browse their cataloge.



I agree that the Notepad is very good. The Behringer you mentioned is the
right kind of mixer, the earlier 2 were aimed at DJing. Soundcraft also have
a new series (see
http://www.gear4music.com/index.php?...pcode=RW5677UK on the
site you previously mentioned) which apparently have been set up for ease of
monitoring when used with computers. However, since you are using a
computer, you may find it better to forget the sound card and mixer and go
for a dedicated computer interface. I use an M-Audio Firewire 410
(http://www.gear4music.com/index.php?...&pcode=FIRE410 ) with a
Mac laptop, but there are cheaper alternatives.

I had no idea that the Studio Projects B1 mic was now available for £59.
They get a good write up amongst the bedroom studio brigade. I might buy a
pair myself. The AKG C1000 is one of the classic mics for recording acoustic
instruments but a bit pricey (though not for the performance).

Oh and yes, as mentioned before, read Sound on Sound. The website
http://www.soundonsound.com allows you to look back at older articles free
and is a goldmine of information. There is also an excellent reader's ads
section.

Roy.


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Old December 8th 04, 09:10 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
sreekant
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Hi

I will try and harass my local studio :-)

Thanks a lot
sreekant
Many studios offer "cancelled time" at very cheap rates. By taking advantage
of this, you have a much better chance of reaching the standard you are
seeking.

Cordially,

Iain


 




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