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Anyone got them? I auditioned a pair today - I hadn't got my own choice of
CDs with me and the selection of classical music in the shop was poor. However I was impressed. Are they as good as I thought they sounded at first hearing? If I buy them they will be replacing Rogers LS3/5a's and LS1 subwoofer in a larger listening room. My amp, which I do not want to change, is a Quad 34/405 recently overhauled and performing "as new." Will this be sufficient? Any other comments will be appreciated. D. |
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I have older SMGa speakers - too large for my new listening room, so yours for
£150. Similar size, if I remember rightly, but older technology. Andy Evans === Andy Evans === Visit our Website:- http://www.artsandmedia.com Audio, music and health pages and interesting links. |
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In article , dersu wrote:
Anyone got them? I auditioned a pair today - I hadn't got my own choice of CDs with me and the selection of classical music in the shop was poor. However I was impressed. Are they as good as I thought they sounded at first hearing? If I buy them they will be replacing Rogers LS3/5a's and LS1 subwoofer in a larger listening room. My amp, which I do not want to change, is a Quad 34/405 recently overhauled and performing "as new." Will this be sufficient? Any other comments will be appreciated. I would be cautious of assuming the 405 would be an appropriate power amp for the Magneplanar speakers. IIRC Magneplanar speakers have a general reputation for having low impedances. I've just looked at some reviews of the 1.6QR and they seem to report that it has a 'typical' resistance of 4 Ohms. You do not say what version of the 405 you have, nor if the overhaul has actually brought it up to the performance of 'late' versions, or to its orginal state. However the early version of the 405 had quite 'strict' current limiting. The (potential) problem is that if the amp can only supply the order of 5 Amps, then that will only give about 20V across a 4 Ohm load. i.e. about half what the 405 can supply into higher impedance loads. The amp can probably do better than 5 Amps, but you may find the peak levels you can get are current limited. If you only listen at modest or low sound levels and are not in a large room, the above may not matter at all as you may not be wishing to produce high levels, and hence any current limitations of the 405 may not matter in your case. You are unlikely to get this problem with LS3/5A's as they have a relatively high impedance in most of their incarnations. :-) What amp did the shop use when demo-ing the Magneplanar speakers? As with Electrostatics, the Magneplanars tend to interact with the room acoustic in a different way to conventional 'cone-and-box' speakers. Hence this is something else you may need to consider. Thus the suitability may depend on your taste in music, the levels you like to listen to, and the listening room. Hence it is hard to be more specific in answering your questions without more info. Will the shop either let you try the speakers before you buy, and/or perhaps let you take the 34/405 into the shop and use them there to drive the speakers? FWIW I personally prefer 'panel' speakers - in my case the Quad ESL's - to conventional types. Hence I am not trying to discourage you from choosing the Magneplanar speakers. But I would be wary of using a 405 to drive them. Slainte, Jim -- Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm Audio Misc http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/AudioMisc/index.html Armstrong Audio http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/Audio/armstrong.html Barbirolli Soc. http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/JBSoc/JBSoc.html |
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In message , Jim Lesurf
writes In article , dersu wrote: Anyone got them? I auditioned a pair today - I hadn't got my own choice of CDs with me and the selection of classical music in the shop was poor. However I was impressed. Are they as good as I thought they sounded at first hearing? If I buy them they will be replacing Rogers LS3/5a's and LS1 subwoofer in a larger listening room. My amp, which I do not want to change, is a Quad 34/405 recently overhauled and performing "as new." Will this be sufficient? Any other comments will be appreciated. I would be cautious of assuming the 405 would be an appropriate power amp for the Magneplanar speakers. IIRC Magneplanar speakers have a general reputation for having low impedances. I've just looked at some reviews of the 1.6QR and they seem to report that it has a 'typical' resistance of 4 Ohms. You do not say what version of the 405 you have, nor if the overhaul has actually brought it up to the performance of 'late' versions, or to its orginal state. However the early version of the 405 had quite 'strict' current limiting. The (potential) problem is that if the amp can only supply the order of 5 Amps, then that will only give about 20V across a 4 Ohm load. i.e. about half what the 405 can supply into higher impedance loads. The amp can probably do better than 5 Amps, but you may find the peak levels you can get are current limited. If you only listen at modest or low sound levels and are not in a large room, the above may not matter at all as you may not be wishing to produce high levels, and hence any current limitations of the 405 may not matter in your case. You are unlikely to get this problem with LS3/5A's as they have a relatively high impedance in most of their incarnations. :-) What amp did the shop use when demo-ing the Magneplanar speakers? As with Electrostatics, the Magneplanars tend to interact with the room acoustic in a different way to conventional 'cone-and-box' speakers. Hence this is something else you may need to consider. Thus the suitability may depend on your taste in music, the levels you like to listen to, and the listening room. Hence it is hard to be more specific in answering your questions without more info. Will the shop either let you try the speakers before you buy, and/or perhaps let you take the 34/405 into the shop and use them there to drive the speakers? FWIW I personally prefer 'panel' speakers - in my case the Quad ESL's - to conventional types. Hence I am not trying to discourage you from choosing the Magneplanar speakers. But I would be wary of using a 405 to drive them. Slainte, Jim I used to have a pair of SMGb Maggies, and these didn't like being driven from a 405 at all. Surprisingly the MG2.5Rs I used later were OK, but the amp gave current limiting problems if turned up too much. The 1.6 Maggies aren't all that big, and you may find that you've got an octave of bass missing that you might have been expecting, ( though it will be better than the LS3/5s). Keep in mind that Dipoles need to be kept away from a rear reflecting wall to stop a 'comb filter' effect. -- Chris Morriss |
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"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message ... Thanks for your helpful comments Jim. I spent a good deal of time on the computer last night researching my Quad 405 and have quickly come to the conclusion that it is not a suitable amp for the Magneplanar speakers. I will investigate updating my early (serial number 29,081) model to later spec. after the holidays. I have added my responses to you below: I would be cautious of assuming the 405 would be an appropriate power amp for the Magneplanar speakers. IIRC Magneplanar speakers have a general reputation for having low impedances. I've just looked at some reviews of the 1.6QR and they seem to report that it has a 'typical' resistance of 4 Ohms. Yes, quoted impedance is 4 ohms - My LS3/5a's are 15 ohm models. You do not say what version of the 405 you have, See above. What amp did the shop use when demo-ing the Magneplanar speakers? They used a very pretty Perreaux integrated amp costing, I think he said, NZ$ 8000 odd (GBP 3,000) more than my ears warrant spending! Thus the suitability may depend on your taste in music, the levels you like to listen to, and the listening room. Hence it is hard to be more specific in answering your questions without more info. My tastes are mainly classical from Baroque to Romantic. I listen to a lot of solo violin - my children are studying violin and piano and I like to listen to what I hope they will one day be capable of performing themselves! My listening room is approx. 25ft x 15ft with an A frame ceiling walls are plasterboard and floor is wood covered with fitted carpet. Will the shop either let you try the speakers before you buy, and/or perhaps let you take the 34/405 into the shop and use them there to drive the speakers? I didn't ask but in view of my research last night I would not buy before trying. However I think the question is becoming academic now since I have come to accept that the Magneplanar speakers require another amp. FWIW I personally prefer 'panel' speakers - in my case the Quad ESL's - to conventional types. Hence I am not trying to discourage you from choosing the Magneplanar speakers. But I would be wary of using a 405 to drive them. I have always been a fan of Quad. I identify with the line of thought that what is important is the musical experience of the system and its ability to play a wide range of sometimes less than technical perfection but wonderful musical content. In this regard I would mention that perhaps my favourite hifi test piece is the Solti Mahler 2 on Decca. And while I have the Mravinsky LPO Tchaikovsky Symphonies 4,5 &6 on DG I get enormous emotional enjoyment from the Furtwangler Berlin PO 1951 Cairo recording of the 6th. In New Zealand there is currently available a wide range of wonderful historic performances on CD at incredible prices for eg. a double disc of Horowitz playing Scarlatti, Haydn, Chopin, Moussorgsky and Rachmaninov for NZ$2.99 (GBP 1.10) and a six disc set of Furtwangler recordings for NZ$6.99 (GBP 2.58). Now although they are quite rare in NZ there are Quad ESL speakers here and I think for the price of the Magneplanars (NZ$ 4,300) there is a good chance that I will be able to find a decent pair of ESL 63's and so it is in this direction that I will now progress. Regards & happy holidays, D. I |
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"Chris Morriss" wrote in message Thanks Chris. See my response to Jim. D. |
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dersu wrote:
"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message ... Thanks for your helpful comments Jim. I spent a good deal of time on the computer last night researching my Quad 405 and have quickly come to the conclusion that it is not a suitable amp for the Magneplanar speakers. I will investigate updating my early (serial number 29,081) model to later spec. after the holidays. I have added my responses to you below: Just one other (slightly nearer to home) option if you are up to a bit of DIY. http://www.eraudio.com.au/Kits/kits.html I have heard a pair of the ESL III, and they were quite stunning, very directional, but sitting down in the sweet spot was like turning the corner into the studio, very tempting if my woodworking skills were better. -- Nick |
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A couple of things about Maggies - they were my system speakers for a few
years. First, you don't need mega power amps unless you have a big room - I used to listen to mine in a smallish room with a 10wpc valve amp (Leak Stereo 20). People will tell you 100 watts, 200 watts etc - that's 'american talk' - people with huge rooms. Second, people will tell you solid state only, but many of us were happy with valves, and so might you be if that's your taste. For a valve amp, the Maggies were quite easy to drive - I used the 4 ohms setting on my OPT. good luck - Andy === Andy Evans === Visit our Website:- http://www.artsandmedia.com Audio, music and health pages and interesting links. |
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In article , Andy Evans
wrote: A couple of things about Maggies - they were my system speakers for a few years. First, you don't need mega power amps unless you have a big room - I used to listen to mine in a smallish room with a 10wpc valve amp (Leak Stereo 20). People will tell you 100 watts, 200 watts etc - that's 'american talk' - people with huge rooms. Second, people will tell you solid state only, but many of us were happy with valves, and so might you be if that's your taste. For a valve amp, the Maggies were quite easy to drive - I used the 4 ohms setting on my OPT. good luck - Andy I would want to know the impedance-frequency properties of the 'Maggies' to be sure. However I'd agree with the above in general terms *provided* the user is in a situation (e.g. small room as Andy says) where the required mean and peak output sound levels are modest, *and* the amp is chosen to be appropriate for the specific situation/use. The first snag is the 'logarithmic' nature of perception of sound level. Ignoring factors like current limiting, a 200W amp would nominally give levels only 6dB above a 50W amp. i.e. about the same as two or three steps on the volume control of the 34 preamp. For some people the 405 might be fine with the magneplanars, but for others it would not, and this is a matter of personal taste, in terms of kind of music, how loud the listener wants it to be, as well as the size of the room. The second snag is that some amps may share a nominal power rating, but differ a great deal in how much current they can deliver into low impedance loads. Take, as an example, the literal implications of the '405' (40V 5A). This implies if taken literally that into a 4 Ohm load you can only get 4x5 = 20V. i.e. 6dB down on what the same amp can deliver into a high impedance speaker. This is an area where the 'Mk2' version is at an advantage as it does not current limit to the same extent. Yet the nominal power ratings of the early and later 405's are the same. I would, therefore, be cautious of completely dismissing what some people say as 'American talk' w.r.t. driving magneplanar speakers. The problem here is not the power rating as such. It is in knowing the specifics of the actual use, and the limits of the particular amp. This is why magazines like HFN tend to state the peak current a power amp can deliver when they list review results. With low impedance speakers this may matter for loud musical peaks. For the 405 to be able to deliver 40V into a 4 Ohm load, it would have to provide 10A. (i.e. a power of 400W). This may simply not be needed in your case, though, as you may not actually ever play music at the levels this would provide. I can't recall details, but my impression is that some magneplanar speakers have impedances that fall below 4 Ohms, so may be 'difficult' loads for some power amps. I would, however, personally agree with the view that 'planar' speakers like these and ESL's are capable of superb results, and may be well worth the extra effort of finding a suitable amp, and the 'inconvenience' of the speaker placement requirements. Slainte, Jim -- Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm Audio Misc http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/AudioMisc/index.html Armstrong Audio http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/Audio/armstrong.html Barbirolli Soc. http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/JBSoc/JBSoc.html |
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In article , dersu wrote:
"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message ... What amp did the shop use when demo-ing the Magneplanar speakers? They used a very pretty Perreaux integrated amp costing, I think he said, NZ$ 8000 odd (GBP 3,000) more than my ears warrant spending! Don't know the Perreaux. However I'd hope you could find cheaper amps that can deliver the required currents, etc. :-) Thus the suitability may depend on your taste in music, the levels you like to listen to, and the listening room. Hence it is hard to be more specific in answering your questions without more info. My tastes are mainly classical from Baroque to Romantic. I listen to a lot of solo violin - my children are studying violin and piano and I like to listen to what I hope they will one day be capable of performing themselves! My listening room is approx. 25ft x 15ft with an A frame ceiling walls are plasterboard and floor is wood covered with fitted carpet. Given what you say about your taste in music I can see why speakers like the magnaplanars or ESLs would be attractive for you. :-) I think for the price of the Magneplanars (NZ$ 4,300) there is a good chance that I will be able to find a decent pair of ESL 63's and so it is in this direction that I will now progress. FWIW I am a fan of the ESL63's. I bought a pair the year they appeared, and still have them - although I recently changed to using a pair of 988's for most of my listening. In the UK I think you can get secondhand 63's for around 1000 UKP a pair. No idea how that would 'translate' to NZ, though. Although the ESL57 was not an easy load, the 63's (particularly late versions) are somewhat easier on the amp. So, for example, I'd expect the 405 to give decent results with the 63's - although the 'late version' of the 405 is still probably preferrable here. I use power amps that can cheerfully deliver over 30A, but I'm sure I never need anything like that with 63's or 988's. :-) Happy Christmas and Hogmanay! Jim -- Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm Audio Misc http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/AudioMisc/index.html Armstrong Audio http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/Audio/armstrong.html Barbirolli Soc. http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/JBSoc/JBSoc.html |
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Add broth (optional) cook a few more minutes. Add the cornstarch, cook a few minutes till thick, then place the stuffing into a colander and cool; 2 hours Wrap the rolls: Place 3 tablespoons of stuffing in the wrap, roll tightly - corner nearest you first, fold 2 side corners in, wrap till remaining corner is left. Brush with egg, seal, and allow to sit on the seal for a few minutes. Fry the rolls: 325° if using egg roll wraps, 350° for spring roll wraps. Deep fry in peanut oil till crispy golden brown, drain on paper towels. Lemon Neonate Turkey serves just as well, and in fact even looks a bit like a well-dressed baby. By the time you turn the child?s breast into cutlets, it will be indistinguishable. The taste of young human, although similar to turkey (and chicken) often can be wildly different depending upon what he or she has consumed during its 10 to 14 months of life... 4 well chosen cutlets (from the breasts of 2 healthy neonates) 2 large lemons (fresh lemons always, if possible) Olive oil Green onions Salt pepper cornstarch neonate stock (chicken, or turkey stock is fine) garlic parsley fresh cracked black pepper Season and sauté the cutlets in olive oil till golden brown, remove. Add the garlic and onions and cook down a bit. Add some lemon juice and some zest, then de-glaze with stock. Add a little cornstarch (dissolved in cold water) to the sauce. You are just about there, Pour the sauce over the cutlets, top with parsley, lemon slices and cracked pepper. Serve with spinach salad, macaroni and cheese (homemade) and iced tea... Spaghetti with Real Italian Meatballs If you don?t have an expendable bambino on hand, you can use a pound |
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Remove, de-bone and cube; continue to reduce the broth. Brown the onions, peppers and celery. Add the meat then season, continue browning. De-glaze with sherry, add the reduced broth. Finally, put in the root vegetables and simmer for 15 minutes. Allow to cool slightly. Place the pie pan in 375 degree oven for a few minutes so bottom crust is not soggy, reduce oven to 325. Fill the pie with stew, place top crust and with a fork, seal the crusts together then poke holes in top. Return to oven and bake for 30 minutes, or until pie crust is golden brown. Sudden Infant Death Soup SIDS: delicious in winter, comparable to old fashioned Beef and Vegetable Soup. Its free, you can sell the crib, baby clothes, toys, stroller... and so easy to procure if such a lucky find is at hand (just pick him up from the crib and he?s good to go)! SIDS victim, cleaned ½ cup cooking oil Carrots onions broccoli whole cabbage fresh green beans potato turnip celery tomato ½ stick butter 1 cup cooked pasta (macaroni, shells, etc.) Remove as much meat as possible, cube, and brown in hot oil. Add a little water, season, then add the carcass. Simmer for half an hour keeping the stock thick. Remove the carcass and add the vegetables slowly to the stock, so that it remains boiling the whole time. Cover the pot and simmer till vegetables are tender (2 hours approximately). Continue seasoning to taste. Before serving, add butter and pasta, serve piping with hot bread and butter. Offspring Rolls Similar to Vietnamese style fried rolls, they have lots of meat (of course this can consist of chicken, beef, pork, or shrimp). Who can resist this classic appetizer; or light lunch served with a fresh salad? Versatility is probably this recipe?s greatest virtue, as one can use the best part of a prime, rare, yearling, or the morticians occasional horror: a small miracle stopped short by a drunk dr |
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brown, remove.
Add the garlic and onions and cook down a bit. Add some lemon juice and some zest, then de-glaze with stock. Add a little cornstarch (dissolved in cold water) to the sauce. You are just about there, Pour the sauce over the cutlets, top with parsley, lemon slices and cracked pepper. Serve with spinach salad, macaroni and cheese (homemade) and iced tea... Spaghetti with Real Italian Meatballs If you don?t have an expendable bambino on hand, you can use a pound of ground pork instead. The secret to great meatballs, is to use very lean meat. 1 lb. ground flesh; human or pork 3 lb. ground beef 1 cup finely chopped onions 7 - 12 cloves garlic 1 cup seasoned bread crumbs ½ cup milk, 2 eggs Oregano basil salt pepper Italian seasoning, etc. Tomato gravy (see index) Fresh or at least freshly cooked spaghetti or other pasta Mix the ground meats together in a large bowl, then mix each of the other ingredients. Make balls about the size of a baby?s fist (there should be one lying around for reference). Bake at 400°for about 25 minutes - or you could fry them in olive oil. Place the meatballs in the tomato gravy, and simmer for several hours. Serve on spaghetti. Accompany with green salad, garlic bread and red wine. Newborn Parmesan This classic Sicilian cuisine can easily be turned into Eggplant Parmesan If you are planning a vegetarian meal. Or you could just a |
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and with a fork, seal the crusts together
then poke holes in top. Return to oven and bake for 30 minutes, or until pie crust is golden brown. Sudden Infant Death Soup SIDS: delicious in winter, comparable to old fashioned Beef and Vegetable Soup. Its free, you can sell the crib, baby clothes, toys, stroller... and so easy to procure if such a lucky find is at hand (just pick him up from the crib and he?s good to go)! SIDS victim, cleaned ½ cup cooking oil Carrots onions broccoli whole cabbage fresh green beans potato turnip celery tomato ½ stick butter 1 cup cooked pasta (macaroni, shells, etc.) Remove as much meat as possible, cube, and brown in hot oil. Add a little water, season, then add the carcass. Simmer for half an hour keeping the stock thick. Remove the carcass and add the vegetables slowly to the stock, so that it remains boiling the whole time. Cover the pot and simmer till vegetables are tender (2 hours approximately). Continue seasoning to taste. Before serving, add butter and pasta, serve piping with hot bread and butter. Offspring Rolls Similar to Vietnamese style fried rolls, they have lots of meat (of course this can consist of chicken, beef, pork, or shrimp). Who can resist this classic appetizer; or light lunch served with a fresh salad? Versatility is probably this recipe?s greatest virtue, as one can use the best part of a prime, rare, yearl |
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ribs can be used in this recipe,
and that is exactly what your dinner guests will assume! An excellent way to expose the uninitiated to this highly misunderstood yet succulent source of protein. 2 human baby rib racks 3 cups barbecue sauce or honey glaze (see index) Salt black pepper white pepper paprika Remove the silverskin by loosening from the edges, then stripping off. Season generously, rubbing the mixture into the baby?s flesh. Place 1 quart water in a baking pan, the meat on a wire rack. Bake uncovered in 250° oven for 1½ hours. When browned, remove and glaze, return to oven and bake 20 minutes more to form a glaze. Cut ribs into individual pieces and serve with extra sauce. Fresh Sausage If it becomes necessary to hide the fact that you are eating human babies, this is the perfect solution. But if you are still paranoid, you can substitute pork butt. 5 lb. lean chuck roast 3 lb. prime baby butt 2 tablespoons each: salt black, white and cayenne peppers celery salt garlic powder parsley flakes brown sugar 1 teaspoon sage 2 onions 6 cloves garlic bunch green onions, chopped Cut the children?s butts and the beef roast into pieces that will fit in the grinder. Run the meat through using a 3/16 grinding plate. Add garlic, onions and seasoning then mix well. Add just enough water for a smooth consistency, then mix again. Form the sausage mixture into patties or stuff into natural casings. Stillborn Stew By definition, this meat cannot be had altogethe |
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Sherry chicken broth oil for deep frying (1 gallon) Salt pepper soy & teriyaki minced ginger, etc. 1 tablespoon cornstarch dissolved in a little cold water 1 egg beaten Make the stuffing: Marinate the flesh in a mixture of soy and teriyaki sauces then stir fry in hot oil for till brown - about 1 minute, remove. Stir-fry the vegetables. Put the meat back into the wok and adjust the seasoning. De-glaze with sherry, cooking off the alcohol. Add broth (optional) cook a few more minutes. Add the cornstarch, cook a few minutes till thick, then place the stuffing into a colander and cool; 2 hours Wrap the rolls: Place 3 tablespoons of stuffing in the wrap, roll tightly - corner nearest you first, fold 2 side corners in, wrap till remaining corner is left. Brush with egg, seal, and allow to sit on the seal for a few minutes. Fry the rolls: 325° if using egg roll wraps, 350° for spring roll wraps. Deep fry in peanut oil till crispy golden brown, dr |
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cords so they won?t be tough). Place a slice of ham and cheese on each, along with some minced onion then fold in half, trimming neatly. Dredge in flour, eggwash, then seasoned breadcrumbs; allow to sit for a few minutes. Sauté in butter and olive oil until golden brown, about 6 minutes on each side. Shish Kababes As old as the hills, this technique has employed seafood, beef, pork, lamb, poultry, and vegetables; just about anything can be grilled, and young humans are no exception! High quality marinade (Teriyaki and garlic perhaps) 1 inch cubes of tender meat, preferably from the nursery Onions bell peppers Wooden or metal skewers Marinate the meat overnight. Get the grill good and hot while placing meat, vegetables, and fruit such as pineapples or cherries on the skewers. Don?t be afraid to use a variety of meats. Grill to medium rare, serve with garlic cous-cous and sautéed asparagus. Coffee and sherbet for desert then walnuts, cheese, and port. Cigars for the gentlemen (and ladies if they so desire)! Crock-Pot Crack Baby When the quivering, hopelessly addicted crack baby succumbs to death, get him immediately butchered and into the crock-pot, so that any remaining toxins will not be fatal. But don?t cook it too long, because like Blowfish, there is a perfect medium between the poisonous and the stimulating. Though it may not have |
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When ready - serve with rice, grilled smoked sausage, green salad, and iced tea.
Coffee and apple pie then brandy. Maternity Ward Pot Luck Dinner If you can?t get anything fresh from the hospital, nursery, or morgue; you can at least get rid of all the leftovers in your refrigerator. 1 - 2 lbs. cubed meat (human flesh, chicken, turkey, beef...) 1 -2 lbs. coarsely chopped vegetables (carrots, potatoes, turnips, cauliflower, cabbage...) Bell pepper onions garlic ginger salt pepper, etc. Olive oil butter Brown the meat and some chopped onions, peppers, and garilic in olive oil, place in baking dish, layer with vegetables seasoning and butter. Bake at 325° for 30 - 45 minutes. Serve with hot dinner rolls, fruit salad and sparkling water. Bébé Buffet 1 Show off with whole roasted children replete with apples in mouths - and babies? heads stuffed with wild rice. Or keep it simple with a hearty main course such as stew, lasagna, or meat loaf. Some suggestions Pre-mie pot pies, beef stew, leg of lamb, stuffed chicken, roast pork spiral ham, Cranberry pineapple salad, sweet potatoes in butter, vegetable platter, tossed salad with tomato and avocado, parsley new potatoes, spinich cucumber salad, fruit salad Bran muffins, dinner rolls, soft breadsticks, rice pilaf, croissants Apple cake with rum sauce, frosted banana nut bread sherbet, home made brownies Iced tea, water, beer, bloody mary |
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