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DBT a flawed method for evaluating Hi-Fi ?



 
 
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Old January 10th 05, 09:11 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Tat Chan
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Jim Lesurf wrote:



What interests me about that is the way magazines devote thousands of pages
to discussing (relatively tiny) differences between amps, yet almost zero
space to questions of improving your room acoustics, etc.



That is because you can't walk into a hi-fi shop and say "I'll have 50
cubic metres of good acoustics for my room, please. Do I get a discount
if I pay in cash?"



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Old January 11th 05, 08:23 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
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In article , Tat Chan
wrote:
Jim Lesurf wrote:




What interests me about that is the way magazines devote thousands of
pages to discussing (relatively tiny) differences between amps, yet
almost zero space to questions of improving your room acoustics, etc.



That is because you can't walk into a hi-fi shop and say "I'll have 50
cubic metres of good acoustics for my room, please. Do I get a discount
if I pay in cash?"


Yes, I suspect you are correct. However the curious thing is that shops
sell things like 'Stones' and wiggly pipes, etc, to improve the sound on a
quasi-mystical basis, but the same shops do not seem to sell more basic
acoustics materials.

Slainte,

Jim

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Old January 11th 05, 01:52 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Iain M Churches
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"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
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In article , Tat Chan
wrote:
That is because you can't walk into a hi-fi shop and say "I'll have 50
cubic metres of good acoustics for my room, please. Do I get a discount
if I pay in cash?"


Yes, I suspect you are correct. However the curious thing is that shops
sell things like 'Stones' and wiggly pipes, etc, to improve the sound on a
quasi-mystical basis, but the same shops do not seem to sell more basic
acoustics materials.

Slainte,

Jim

For those living in the UK, the Association of Architects (or whatever the
revered body is called) have a list of those specialised in acoustics.

Iain


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Old January 11th 05, 04:48 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:52:37 +0200, "Iain M Churches"
wrote:


"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
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In article , Tat Chan
wrote:
That is because you can't walk into a hi-fi shop and say "I'll have 50
cubic metres of good acoustics for my room, please. Do I get a discount
if I pay in cash?"


Yes, I suspect you are correct. However the curious thing is that shops
sell things like 'Stones' and wiggly pipes, etc, to improve the sound on a
quasi-mystical basis, but the same shops do not seem to sell more basic
acoustics materials.

Slainte,

Jim

For those living in the UK, the Association of Architects (or whatever the
revered body is called) have a list of those specialised in acoustics.


It's the Royal Institute of British Architects (RIBA), and it does
indeed have such a list, Hepworth Acoustics being one of the principal
consulting firms. Don't expect this advice to come cheaply!
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Old January 11th 05, 05:40 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Iain M Churches
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"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
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It's the Royal Institute of British Architects (RIBA), and it does
indeed have such a list, Hepworth Acoustics being one of the principal
consulting firms. Don't expect this advice to come cheaply!


People expect to pay huge sums of money for loudspeakers,
and high end amplifiers. Surely it is not unreasonable to
expect to have to spend some money on the room?

Iain





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Old January 12th 05, 09:56 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Jim Lesurf
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In article , Iain M Churches
wrote:

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
It's the Royal Institute of British Architects (RIBA), and it does
indeed have such a list, Hepworth Acoustics being one of the principal
consulting firms. Don't expect this advice to come cheaply!


People expect to pay huge sums of money for loudspeakers, and high end
amplifiers. Surely it is not unreasonable to expect to have to spend
some money on the room?


Do you read Private Eye? :-)

I'd agree that is "not unreasonable". Alas, in reality...

Slainte,

Jim

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Old January 11th 05, 10:00 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Tat Chan
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Jim Lesurf wrote:

In article , Tat Chan
wrote:

That is because you can't walk into a hi-fi shop and say "I'll have 50
cubic metres of good acoustics for my room, please. Do I get a discount
if I pay in cash?"



Yes, I suspect you are correct. However the curious thing is that shops
sell things like 'Stones' and wiggly pipes, etc, to improve the sound on a
quasi-mystical basis, but the same shops do not seem to sell more basic
acoustics materials.


Well, the average consumer would probably want to believe in some
quasi-mystical product from an audio shop instead of purchasing
acoustics materials from their local hardware/building supplies shop.

(which reminds me, I really should do something about my listening area.
Some thick rugs would be the order of the day)
 




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