On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:45:25 GMT, justin wrote:


That may be true, but typically a 4 year, post secondary school
experience in a recording studio won't come even close to a 4 year
university drill. I'm talking university degree, not some SAE, Full
sail or whatever one year course student mill, offering "tonemeister"
certificate.

OP wanted information on audio ENGINEERING degree and you arrogantly
knocked him by implying he doesn't know the difference between audio
technician and a tonemeister.

Yes I just wanted to know which is the best sound Engineering
degree, because I think I have the skills to become an audio engineer,
not a simple technician. I want to learn to do, why to do, how to do,
and I want to have a wider range oj jobs involved in
audio/sound/acoustic I can do, 'cos I know there are few job places
(at least here in Italy, but I can consider to work everywhere, at
least at the beginning).

That may mean the same thing where you're coming from but he can't GET
an Audio Engineering/Tonemeister job in Italian broadcasting or
production facility without university degree in music or applied
technology. Neither would you unless you had some major international
production credits.

Just to put the things in a perspective, in Italy and elsewhere
continental EU the difference is equivalent to the difference between a
nurse and a physician, a draft person and an architect or a sales
assistant and a marketing director. So is the knowledge, skill,
responsibility and competence level. Salary too, about 30-50%.

And since you are posting from the University of Berlin, give Deutche
Rundfunk a call and ask them for the job requirements. They invented
the term Tonemeister some 60 years ago.


j.

So the Tonmeister is the best degree. I understood this. Now I know
that there's in University of Surrey, of Berlin and Wien, searching on
the net. Do you know some other places?

Thank you ALL very much!!!


Gianluca

In article ,
Someone Out In Space wrote:
Yes I just wanted to know which is the best sound Engineering
degree, because I think I have the skills to become an audio engineer,
not a simple technician. I want to learn to do, why to do, how to do,
and I want to have a wider range oj jobs involved in
audio/sound/acoustic I can do, 'cos I know there are few job places
(at least here in Italy, but I can consider to work everywhere, at
least at the beginning).

I'm still unclear exactly what you mean. Do you wish to design, build and
or repair audio equipment, or 'merely' use it?

If you intend being what is commonly known as a sound engineer in the UK,
here's a list.

TV, radio, films, post production, recording studios (including location
recording for sale as CD) theatre and live music events. There are some
who work in more than one field, but most specialise. And within all of
those fields, there is even more specialisation. For example in TV,
different people might specialise in studio, outside broadcast (mainly
sports) and location recording (mainly drama) Documentaries are also a
specialised field.

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On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:46:33 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Someone Out In Space wrote:
Yes I just wanted to know which is the best sound Engineering
degree, because I think I have the skills to become an audio engineer,
not a simple technician. I want to learn to do, why to do, how to do,
and I want to have a wider range oj jobs involved in
audio/sound/acoustic I can do, 'cos I know there are few job places
(at least here in Italy, but I can consider to work everywhere, at
least at the beginning).

I'm still unclear exactly what you mean. Do you wish to design, build and
or repair audio equipment, or 'merely' use it?

Both, I want a degree that can teach me the most possible. I want to
work for the music, but I'm better in phisics/maths than in music, so
I thought that sound engineer (or Audio engineer) could be the right
compromise. As a recording engineer, as the one who study the acoustic
in a theater, in a concert hall, or I don't know... mixing music, it's
not so clear to me too what I want to do, but what I know is that I
want to use my rational skills for the music. Maybe I'm a dreamer, or
just ingenuos, but I'm 22 and I can still decide what to do with my
life, so... I want to try, and I need all the informations I can have
from you all

If you intend being what is commonly known as a sound engineer in the UK,
here's a list.

TV, radio, films, post production, recording studios (including location
recording for sale as CD) theatre and live music events. There are some
who work in more than one field, but most specialise. And within all of
those fields, there is even more specialisation. For example in TV,
different people might specialise in studio, outside broadcast (mainly
sports) and location recording (mainly drama) Documentaries are also a
specialised field.

Thank you all once again!

Gianluca

In article ,
Someone Out In Space wrote:
I'm still unclear exactly what you mean. Do you wish to design, build
and or repair audio equipment, or 'merely' use it?

Both, I want a degree that can teach me the most possible.

I'd be very surprised if a course anywhere covered both to degree level.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:46:33 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Someone Out In Space wrote:
Yes I just wanted to know which is the best sound Engineering
degree, because I think I have the skills to become an audio engineer,
not a simple technician. I want to learn to do, why to do, how to do,
and I want to have a wider range oj jobs involved in
audio/sound/acoustic I can do, 'cos I know there are few job places
(at least here in Italy, but I can consider to work everywhere, at
least at the beginning).

I'm still unclear exactly what you mean. Do you wish to design, build and
or repair audio equipment, or 'merely' use it?

Both, I want a degree that can teach me the most possible. I want to
work for the music, but I'm better in phisics/maths than in music, so
I thought that sound engineer (or Audio engineer) could be the right
compromise. As a recording engineer, as the one who study the acoustic
in a theater, in a concert hall, or I don't know... mixing music, it's
not so clear to me too what I want to do, but what I know is that I
want to use my rational skills for the music. Maybe I'm a dreamer, or
just ingenuos, but I'm 22 and I can still decide what to do with my
life, so... I want to try, and I need all the informations I can have
from you all

If you want to become a live engineer mixing music for concerts then forget
about the degree and work your way up in the real world. It will be useful
as a recording engineer but there are specific courses for this. You need to
be more specific in what you want to do before you choose a course to go on.

Phildo