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In article , says...

You might be surprised to learn that America is not the only country where
micro-breweries proliferate local communities.

Given how much I travel I wouldn't be at all surprised ;-)

I have had the good fortune
of sampling some astonishingly good local brews in places like India, Peru,
Zambia and Uzbekistan.

However, in my opinion, only the Netherlands matches America's record at
making diluted horse **** concoctions commerically successful (Heineken,
Amstel, Coors, Miller, Budweiser).

Well, I'd say almost every country has a similar mainstream beer or two
- you can get plently of that bland fizzy beer the UK, in Belgium, and
certainly in the countries you mention above. Let's face it - those
beers sell.


Belgium notwithstanding, Germany, Denmark, Austria, Britain, Ireland all
offer some fantastic beers.

Well, I like your list, though I found Ireland to be decent but somewhat
limited in its beer offerings. I recently returned from the Czech
Republic, and I'd definitely add that country to top beer destinations
of the world.

fwiw, I'm not American, nor do I live in the US, but I really do find
the beer offerings superb in many places that I visit there.

--
Bill

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"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...

I don't think Belgium beats the UK for variety.

Good beers though.

I was under the impression that Germany had the greatest number of small
breweries, protected from the chemical companies by Germany's food purity
laws.

However, I've only been to Germany once, and I find I really can't assess
more than three beers in a session ... after that I seem to get them muddled
up ... :-)

Tim

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In article ,
says...
"Jocelyn Major" emitted :

American beers and ales are now the best in the world.

That's a rare statement. Most American beer tastes like watered down
gnats ****. Maybe "the UK" isn't famil. with the beers and ales of
which you speak... what do you recommend?

If you can, check out the Great British Beer Festival in Olympia,
London. I've worked at it a couple of times, and it's a fantastic beer
festival which includes approx 700 real ales. What's that got to do with
American beers you ask?

Well, at the Bières Sans Frontières bar, a decent number of American
micros and craft beers are featured. There are usually some absolute
gems there.

I don't actually know what gets sent over to the UK - I thought I heard
that some Rogue beers were making the trip. If so, they are highly
recommended.

--
Bill

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On Mon, 23 May 2005 14:39:36 -0700, "Schizoid Man"
wrote:


"dave weil" wrote in message

So, are you telling these unhappy guys on the boards how well they can
do in Nashville? We need to move some of this excess disgruntled labor
into the heartland.

No, mostly I commiserated with them. It wasn't my idea to lord my good
fortune over them.

Dave,

You're not really comparing Nashville and San Diego are you? Please don't.

Yes. and quite favorably.

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On 23 May 2005 15:25:20 -0700, "ScottW" wrote:


dave weil wrote:
On 23 May 2005 14:21:36 -0700, "ScottW" wrote:


dave weil wrote:
On 23 May 2005 13:41:29 -0700, "ScottW"
wrote:

Horrible restaurants getting undertipped. Oh the horror!

Well, it's your town. I'm sorry that you suffer horrible
restaurants.

It's a big town as you said, there are plenty of great places if
you
have the time to find them.

Glad you got out of the tourist area, which is where you were hanging
out right after you moved there. It's the opposite of what I would do
if I just moved to a new place, but there ya go. You're more of the
pedestrian type.

When I moved to SD, the company that was hiring me put me up in a
resort hotel for 3 months while I made housing arrangements. It
happened to be a nice little suite with a kitchen right across the
street from the bluff above the beach.

How cute for you.

A "resort hotel" isn't my idea of paradise, if you get my drift.

Beautiful ocean view from the
patio. I guess you can consider that pedestrian... walking out my door
to the beach :).

I'm not really much on the beach, so no it doesn't do a lot for me.
Plus, I like seasons. I also don't like most beach areas. Too toursity
for me. If I were going to live on the ocean in the states, it would
probably be in Oregon, or Washington State or Maine. It certainly
wouldn't be in SoCal.

Come to think of it.. my favorite places
are family owned and operated. I doubt they do much posting on
waiters boards.

Well, nobody talked about working in chains.

So, are you telling these unhappy guys on the boards how well they
can
do in Nashville? We need to move some of this excess disgruntled
labor
into the heartland.

No, mostly I commiserated with them. It wasn't my idea to lord my
good
fortune over them.

I don't think revealing your annual compensation would disqualify you
from commiserating with these disgruntled waiters. Might actually make
them feel better about their situation.

Frankly, my making $40 grand a year here is far better than them
making their $50k (if they even make THAT), since I can actually buy
scads of nice houses for under a hundred grand. Since you guys have to
spend $300,000 for a starter house, I think that puts me way ahead.
Plus, it takes me 8 minutes to get to work. Or downtown. Or out in the
country. Of course, it takes me 20 minutes to get to the airport. That
sucks.

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ScottW wrote:

Sierra Nevada is ****. Beer has to pass the aftertaste test and after
3 Sierras I'm wondering who puked in my mouth and kicked me in the
head. My sister-in-law left a case of Sierra Oktoberfest Ale in my
frig. I couldn't give that nasty crap away. I'd rather drink Killians
Red than Sierra Nevada.

Damn that *is* desperate. Killians is pretty vile stuff.
Me, I think the best U.S. pseudo-microbrew is from a small
company in CA. Called Anchor(not Anchor Steam - totally
different company).

Still not half as good as beer from Australia, which
should tell you a lot. Well, there are 1-2 good Australian
beers, but they are nearly impossible to get in the U.S.

Microbrewery has lost some meaning. Stone Brewery and Karl Strauss
like to call themselves micro while brewing a lot of beer. As far as I
am concerned, if you can buy a 6 pack of it in the store... it ain't
micro brewed.

Exactly.

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dave weil wrote:

On 23 May 2005 11:07:36 -0700, "ScottW" wrote:


Microbrewery has lost some meaning. Stone Brewery and Karl Strauss
like to call themselves micro while brewing a lot of beer. As far as I
am concerned, if you can buy a 6 pack of it in the store... it ain't
micro brewed.


Microbrew has a certain technical meaning which isn't bound by law but
has a pretty common shared expectation among those who care.

Hey! Just like audio! Whatever crap you can get away with
among the anal believers. Too bad 95% of it isn't the
real thing. Hey! Just like audio!

I knew this related to audio somehow.

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Joseph O'Blather said:

the anal believers

Finally, Harold has achieved a convert.

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"George Middius" wrote in
message ...
Joseph O'Blather said:

the anal believers

Finally, Harold has achieved a convert.

Yet another sad case of Middius externalizating his fecal
obsession.

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Mr. **** squats another potfull™ of Krooglish.

externalizating

It just occurred to me that maybe you're the reason Lionella can't learn proper
human language. What else did you teach her, Arnii? ;-)