In article , says...

"George M. Middius" wrote in message

Nath said:

Still spending your dole on ale for the mates?

At least we have real beer, not your **** flavoured attempt at it...

American beers and ales are now the best in the world.

George, please tell me you were high when you made the above assertion.

While I wouldn't go so far as George in his praise of American beers,
there is no doubt that the craft brewing industry in the US has created
a beer scene with more diversity and quality than any country outside of
Belgium.

There are certainly areas in the US that are beer wastelands with
nothing available but Budmillorcoors, but visiting somewhere like
Portland OR will quickly change your mind about American beers.

--
Bill

On 23 May 2005 08:10:35 -0700, George Middius
wrote:


Don Pearce said:

Q. Why is American beer like making love in a punt?
A. They are both ****ing close to water.

You've changed the text without authorization. The original version referred to
Australian beer.

Isn't it the same place? I speak foreign, you know.

d

Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

On Mon, 23 May 2005 16:19:22 GMT, Briel wrote:

In article , says...

"George M. Middius" wrote in message

Nath said:

Still spending your dole on ale for the mates?

At least we have real beer, not your **** flavoured attempt at it...

American beers and ales are now the best in the world.

George, please tell me you were high when you made the above assertion.

While I wouldn't go so far as George in his praise of American beers,
there is no doubt that the craft brewing industry in the US has created
a beer scene with more diversity and quality than any country outside of
Belgium.

There are certainly areas in the US that are beer wastelands with
nothing available but Budmillorcoors, but visiting somewhere like
Portland OR will quickly change your mind about American beers.

I don't think Belgium beats the UK for variety. There are even small
bars in London's West End with their own brewery on site. They tend to
specialize in bitter beers heavy in hops, toasted to their own recipe
for a "house" flavour.

d

Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

On Mon, 23 May 2005 16:19:22 GMT, Briel wrote:

In article , says...

"George M. Middius" wrote in message

Nath said:

Still spending your dole on ale for the mates?

At least we have real beer, not your **** flavoured attempt at it...

American beers and ales are now the best in the world.

George, please tell me you were high when you made the above assertion.

While I wouldn't go so far as George in his praise of American beers,
there is no doubt that the craft brewing industry in the US has created
a beer scene with more diversity and quality than any country outside of
Belgium.

There are certainly areas in the US that are beer wastelands with
nothing available but Budmillorcoors, but visiting somewhere like
Portland OR will quickly change your mind about American beers.

First of all, ale IS beer.

Second of all, I would say that many American beers are now AMONG the
best in the world. There are planty of really fine beers being
produced here. Still, subject to the fact that this is opinion, the
most sterling examples of the different styles still reside in other
countries for the most part. Steam beer would be the only
counter-example that I can think of.

However, the beer industry in the US has come light years in the past
two decades. With beers like Sierra Nevada and Anchor Steam, it's been
shown that America can mass-produce beers of world class quality. And,
as noted, there is a multitude of micro-breweries that offer world
class product that produce smaller quantities of great beer. We
probably have the most vibrant and adventurous beer industry in the
world at the moment. Yet, the shelves are FULL of mediocre beer just
waiting to be quaffed by uneducated US consumers.

In my humble town of Nashville, there are FIVE microbreweries that
offer fresh beer in a multitude of styles, brewed right on the
premises and pumped directly from the holding tanks into the glass.
One of them even offers a daily selection of cask-conditioned
British-style ale served at an approriate cellar temperature. They
produce only a pony keg a day and when it's gone it's gone (it usually
only lasts about 2 hours max). That particular brewery is one of only
a handful of breweries in the world that produced the old German style
stone beer. It's always available in sufficient quantites to be
offered as a standard menu item.

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Mon, 23 May 2005 16:19:22 GMT, Briel wrote:

I don't think Belgium beats the UK for variety. There are even small
bars in London's West End with their own brewery on site.

Wow! What a unique and fascinating concept. Surely it doesn't exist outside
the UK.

d

Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

Who do you consult? Door knobs?

Margaret

On Mon, 23 May 2005 16:35:52 GMT, (Don Pearce)
wrote:

There are certainly areas in the US that are beer wastelands with
nothing available but Budmillorcoors, but visiting somewhere like
Portland OR will quickly change your mind about American beers.

I don't think Belgium beats the UK for variety.

Probably not. But they still produce what I think are the two ultimate
beers, the Lambic and the Trappist ale.

I'd say that the US far surpasses the UK interms of variety though.
You can get anything from hefeweissen to IPAs. Every world style is
covered somewhere in pretty large quanties in the US. It's hard to
make that case for the UK. Still, the UK has some of what I would call
"ultimate" versions of certain styles like brown ale and stout. It's
hard to beat Samuel Smith and Guinness, two brands that are available
(if not nearly as good, especially Guinness) here in the US.

Briel said:

American beers and ales are now the best in the world.

George, please tell me you were high when you made the above assertion.

While I wouldn't go so far as George in his praise of American beers,
there is no doubt that the craft brewing industry in the US has created
a beer scene with more diversity and quality than any country outside of
Belgium.

One can't pester Plowborg and the rest of the simps with reality. He knows what
he knows, and what he doesn't know doesn't matter.

There are certainly areas in the US that are beer wastelands with
nothing available but Budmillorcoors, but visiting somewhere like
Portland OR will quickly change your mind about American beers.

Even Sluttie has acknowledged the flowering of the microbrewery industry. I was
indulging in hyperbole originally, but on reflection, I'd say there are some
American beers that are unsurpassed anywhere in the world. Not necessarily
pilsners -- Belgium can keep the crown for them. Around here, one of the leading
regionals is Wild Goose. Their IPA is to die for.

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...

On Mon, 23 May 2005 07:11:08 -0400, George M. Middius
wrote:



Schizoid Man said:

American beers and ales are now the best in the world.

George, please tell me you were high when you made the above assertion.

Oh take a pill already.

I was talking to Plowborg. Imagine a non-psychotic Krooborg. See what I
mean?


Q. Why is American beer like making love in a punt?

A. You wouldn't know what to do even if you had the opportunity!

Cheers,

Margaret

"Briel" wrote in message

While I wouldn't go so far as George in his praise of American beers,
there is no doubt that the craft brewing industry in the US has created
a beer scene with more diversity and quality than any country outside of
Belgium.

There are certainly areas in the US that are beer wastelands with
nothing available but Budmillorcoors, but visiting somewhere like
Portland OR will quickly change your mind about American beers.

You might be surprised to learn that America is not the only country where
micro-breweries proliferate local communities. I have had the good fortune
of sampling some astonishingly good local brews in places like India, Peru,
Zambia and Uzbekistan.

However, in my opinion, only the Netherlands matches America's record at
making diluted horse **** concoctions commerically successful (Heineken,
Amstel, Coors, Miller, Budweiser).

Belgium notwithstanding, Germany, Denmark, Austria, Britain, Ireland all
offer some fantastic beers.

"dave weil" wrote in message

I'd say that the US far surpasses the UK interms of variety though.
You can get anything from hefeweissen to IPAs. Every world style is
covered somewhere in pretty large quanties in the US. It's hard to
make that case for the UK. Still, the UK has some of what I would call
"ultimate" versions of certain styles like brown ale and stout. It's
hard to beat Samuel Smith and Guinness, two brands that are available
(if not nearly as good, especially Guinness) here in the US.

Actually, what I really miss is Caffrey's. It's a fairly common beer in
England and I have never seen it here.