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Nath May 14th 05 04:58 PM

Info please
 

"Rob" wrote in message
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Nath wrote:
"Keith G" wrote in message
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"Nath" wrote

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I was just saying for the same price of the Sound Server I could outfit a
whopper PC server, and store everything as lossless, or even if lossy
highbitrate with thousands of albums (if you have that many)


Could you manage it for the price of the Cambridge (500UKP)? Or the laptop
combo (factor in a 15" TFT)?


If you've got a old PC, the yes...just add a couple of HD's and away you go.
Basically a server. Don't need a monitor, keyboard or mouse either...either
on 24/7 or perhaps flick it on remotely.



Did you read the last message on the OGG v MP3 thread? (get latest Lame
and OGG encoder)




This is becoming increasingly tricky to call. Storage is becoming cheaper,
and I'd guess that codecs will become more efficient. For future proof
archiving surely the best way is just store wavs?


Or Lossless FLAC, that way can re-rip to lossy. However I would probably
just re-rip my faviourate albums as with the "newer higher quality lossy" so
inserting the CD isn't a big deal. I've ripped/encoded 1000 albums and that
is very time consuming, however my encodes are OGG ~180kps I doubt a newer
lossy codec will improve some of the recordings, considering quality (ie
Nirvana, thrash etc

200Gb for 60UKP - what's that, about 15p per CD? When/if some bright spark
comes up with the 1000:1 lossless codec there you have it. To move with the
times you just keep encoding the wavs and replace your old compressed files
with the new compression technique (for your iRiver, WHY); save time,
optimal quality.


Yeah, use FLAC as the source, re-encode. Iriver is a great sounding portable
DAP, OGG support, and now flashed Rockbox. So it should have FLAC, as well
as MOD, MID etc etc :-D



Rob May 14th 05 07:14 PM

Info please
 
Nath wrote:
"Rob" wrote in message
...

Nath wrote:

"Keith G" wrote in message
m...


"Nath" wrote


snip

I was just saying for the same price of the Sound Server I could outfit a
whopper PC server, and store everything as lossless, or even if lossy
highbitrate with thousands of albums (if you have that many)


Could you manage it for the price of the Cambridge (500UKP)? Or the laptop
combo (factor in a 15" TFT)?



If you've got a old PC, the yes...just add a couple of HD's and away you go.
Basically a server. Don't need a monitor, keyboard or mouse either...either
on 24/7 or perhaps flick it on remotely.


Yes - but the point is that with either of my options you have an entire
front end. Either can 'suck'/'spit' music from/to any source - the main
hifi, a pc/mac or the internet. As can your option but not, I would
suggest, as easily. You simply dial in at the Cambridge or laptop
interface, which can sit (fairly) unobtrusively by the hifi. You could
easily site a pc near the hifi - but then you've got
cables/monitor/noise etc. And if you don't want a pc near the hifi,
those frontend things only serve - they don't allow playback/recording
*from* the hifi source. For additional storage you could daisy chain USB
HDs.

Mind you, the OT only wants playback of existing files (I think) so your
option, plus say a:

http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_overview.html could well fit the bill.





Did you read the last message on the OGG v MP3 thread? (get latest Lame
and OGG encoder)




This is becoming increasingly tricky to call. Storage is becoming cheaper,
and I'd guess that codecs will become more efficient. For future proof
archiving surely the best way is just store wavs?



Or Lossless FLAC, that way can re-rip to lossy. However I would probably
just re-rip my faviourate albums as with the "newer higher quality lossy" so
inserting the CD isn't a big deal. I've ripped/encoded 1000 albums and that
is very time consuming, however my encodes are OGG ~180kps I doubt a newer
lossy codec will improve some of the recordings, considering quality (ie
Nirvana, thrash etc


200Gb for 60UKP - what's that, about 15p per CD? When/if some bright spark
comes up with the 1000:1 lossless codec there you have it. To move with the
times you just keep encoding the wavs and replace your old compressed files
with the new compression technique (for your iRiver, WHY); save time,
optimal quality.



Yeah, use FLAC as the source, re-encode. Iriver is a great sounding portable
DAP, OGG support, and now flashed Rockbox. So it should have FLAC, as well
as MOD, MID etc etc :-D


Quite - I suspect I'd be as satisfied as you with that. However it is
possible - even likely - that different methods of storing music will
arise. Perhaps it's just that I'd *feel* better knowing that I had a
perfect copy of the original - even if I couldn't reliably tell the
difference. As it is I've got 1000s of 128/192/320 kbps mp3s - I can't
be bothered to rerip them, but any new stuff gets wavd and, for now,
320kbps ripped. Those iRiver things are the nuts if you like portables
tho but.

Rob


Wally May 14th 05 08:09 PM

Info please
 
Rob wrote:

... You simply dial in at the Cambridge or
laptop interface, which can sit (fairly) unobtrusively by the hifi.
You could easily site a pc near the hifi - but then you've got
cables/monitor/noise etc.


My video card has an s-video output - the computer's display goes to the
(cheapie) wide screen TV, and I use a wireless keyboard and mouse to drive
the computer while slobbing back on the sofa. A long USB cable goes to the
keyboard/mouse receiver which is under the sofa - the cable goes under a rug
and isn't in the way. The mouse and keyboard are just treated as (yet) more
remotes that get piled in a drawer in the coffee table. (It's a
smallish-footprint keyboard.)


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Wally
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www.wally.myby.co.uk





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