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Old June 4th 05, 06:25 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
mo
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Hi
Going to a concert soon and I wnat to make a recording of it

I am told DAT recorders are the way to go.

I dont own one myself, any ideas if its possible to rent them and where
from? I am located in Southampton.

Also how difficult are they to connect to computers to make CDs out of the
music captured?


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Old June 4th 05, 06:58 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Eiron
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mo wrote:
Hi
Going to a concert soon and I wnat to make a recording of it

I am told DAT recorders are the way to go.

I dont own one myself, any ideas if its possible to rent them and where
from? I am located in Southampton.

Also how difficult are they to connect to computers to make CDs out of the
music captured?


This is what you need:

http://www.edirol.com/products/info/r1.html

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Old June 4th 05, 09:56 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Chris Isbell
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On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 19:58:43 +0100, Eiron wrote:

mo wrote:
Hi
Going to a concert soon and I wnat to make a recording of it

I am told DAT recorders are the way to go.

I dont own one myself, any ideas if its possible to rent them and where
from? I am located in Southampton.

Also how difficult are they to connect to computers to make CDs out of the
music captured?


This is what you need:

http://www.edirol.com/products/info/r1.html


At 24-bit, 44.1 ksps, I estimate that around 1GB will be required per
hour of stereo. Since this is about the largest CF card size currently
available, it could be rather limiting for certain types of music.
(Wagner operas, anyone?) However, since this is a Roland product, I
would guess that it is mainly intended for recording short tracks
rather than whole concerts.

It costs around 330 pounds (Digital Village) and adding a 1G bytes CF
card brings it up to around 376 pounds. This is getting towards the
price range for hard disk recorders. (I paid 400 pounds for my Yamaha
HD1300 - although this lacks microphones and suitable inputs.)

BTW: I am also located in Southampton. If the OP wishes to get in
contact (removing the spam block from my e-mail address) I might be
able to assist.


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Chris Isbell
Southampton, UK
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Old June 5th 05, 09:44 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
tony sayer
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In article , Chris Isbell
writes
On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 19:58:43 +0100, Eiron wrote:

mo wrote:
Hi
Going to a concert soon and I wnat to make a recording of it

I am told DAT recorders are the way to go.

I dont own one myself, any ideas if its possible to rent them and where
from? I am located in Southampton.

Also how difficult are they to connect to computers to make CDs out of the
music captured?


This is what you need:

http://www.edirol.com/products/info/r1.html


At 24-bit, 44.1 ksps, I estimate that around 1GB will be required per
hour of stereo. Since this is about the largest CF card size currently
available, it could be rather limiting for certain types of music.
(Wagner operas, anyone?) However, since this is a Roland product, I
would guess that it is mainly intended for recording short tracks
rather than whole concerts.

It costs around 330 pounds (Digital Village) and adding a 1G bytes CF
card brings it up to around 376 pounds. This is getting towards the
price range for hard disk recorders. (I paid 400 pounds for my Yamaha
HD1300 - although this lacks microphones and suitable inputs.)

BTW: I am also located in Southampton. If the OP wishes to get in
contact (removing the spam block from my e-mail address) I might be
able to assist.



Why not get a decent sound card for your PC one such as the Terratec
Phase 2 series which has balanced inputs and turns in a fine
performance.

You can now build a NEW PC for just over the £100 mark, excluding screen
and a with a good soundcard would all work out less than standalone
boxes. Not only that, for little more money a CD burner and freebie
editing software?..

No contest)
--
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Old June 5th 05, 11:46 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Wally
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tony sayer wrote:

You can now build a NEW PC for just over the £100 mark, excluding
screen ...


Really? Please provide the specs and prices of the individual bits...

Case:
Motherboard:
CPU:
RAM:
Video card:
Hard drive:
Floppy:
Mouse:
Keyboard:


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Old June 5th 05, 12:11 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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"Wally" wrote in message
m...
tony sayer wrote:

You can now build a NEW PC for just over the £100 mark, excluding
screen ...


Really? Please provide the specs and prices of the individual bits...

Case:
Motherboard:
CPU:
RAM:
Video card:
Hard drive:
Floppy:
Mouse:
Keyboard:




A new PC build will cost 300+ however you cut/slice/dice it in my
experience....





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Old June 5th 05, 01:04 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
tony sayer
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In article , Wally
writes
tony sayer wrote:

You can now build a NEW PC for just over the £100 mark, excluding
screen ...


Really? Please provide the specs and prices of the individual bits...

Case: 8 quid


PSU around a tenner

Motherboard: 18 odd quid
CPU: 25 ish
RAM: bout same
Video card: on MB
Hard drive: 25 ish
Floppy: what these days?..
Mouse: couple of quid
Keyboard: much the same


http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/home/
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Old June 6th 05, 01:04 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
mo
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Default DAT recorders?


"Chris Isbell" wrote in message

BTW: I am also located in Southampton. If the OP wishes to get in
contact (removing the spam block from my e-mail address) I might be
able to assist.


Hi
Emailed you but no reply as yet...if I have cocked up your email address
mine is

mo1984@
gmail...com



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Old June 5th 05, 12:08 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
killermike
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On Sat, 4 Jun 2005 19:25:14 +0100, mo wrote:

Hi
Going to a concert soon and I wnat to make a recording of it

I am told DAT recorders are the way to go.


I would advise against using DAT.

I think that DAT was intended to be a recordable, 'sister' format to
compact disc. DAT never became very successful as a consumer format. It did
find itself a short-lived niche in small recording studios. It offered good
quality two track recording onto a digital medium for a reasonable price.

However, DAT is largely superseded now. Mechanically, machines aren't very
robust as the tape is very much like a miniaturized video cassette. They
have all the draw backs of tape-based linear rather than random access. In
short, they are feature poor and cost ineffective compared to more modern
technologies such as mini disk and computer-based HD recording.

I'd be reluctant to take such a machine on unless someone was offering to
give me the machine for free.

For the rest of what you want to do, you need to learn about live music
recording. Perhaps you could ask the sound crew if you could take a live
feed from the mixing desk?

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Old June 5th 05, 09:50 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Chris Isbell
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Default DAT recorders?

On Sun, 5 Jun 2005 00:08:31 +0000, killermike
wrote:

On Sat, 4 Jun 2005 19:25:14 +0100, mo wrote:

Hi
Going to a concert soon and I wnat to make a recording of it

I am told DAT recorders are the way to go.


I would advise against using DAT.


I would agree. I had two DAT recorders (Casio and Sony), both of which
stopped working and were uneconomic to fix, even with light home use.
HDD is much better and more cost effective for most applications.


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Southampton, UK
 




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