August 13th 05, 12:12 PM
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BBC Proms Radio 3 - relentless stutter
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article 1h18f0m.1uthky1mbl11cN%this_address_is_for_spam@y ahoo.com,
chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h
offy wrote:
Sure, but I'd probably be interested in recording some stuff onto my
laptop from it. I was just wondering how the quality would compare to
freeview, that's all. I'm probably still going to buy it!
On R3 and R4 (most of the time), I doubt most could tell the difference
between DAB and Freeview.
Ok- interesting. Radio 3, 4 and 5 are all I listen to, really- some
world service too.
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August 13th 05, 12:52 PM
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BBC Proms Radio 3 - relentless stutter
In article 1h18hw7.5pq5y81lzvz2tN%this_address_is_for_spam@y ahoo.com,
chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h
offy wrote:
On R3 and R4 (most of the time), I doubt most could tell the difference
between DAB and Freeview.
Ok- interesting. Radio 3, 4 and 5 are all I listen to, really- some
world service too.
Then I think you'll be ok with DAB. I can switch between R4 DAB, Freeview
and FM here easily, and apart from the different timing, all sound near
enough the same. R5 should sound better than AM.
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*It's lonely at the top, but you eat better.
Dave Plowman London SW
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August 13th 05, 05:37 PM
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BBC Proms Radio 3 - relentless stutter
chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h
offy wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article
1h18f0m.1uthky1mbl11cN%this_address_is_for_spam@y ahoo.com,
chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco
24h offy wrote:
Sure, but I'd probably be interested in recording some stuff onto my
laptop from it. I was just wondering how the quality would compare
to freeview, that's all. I'm probably still going to buy it!
On R3 and R4 (most of the time), I doubt most could tell the
difference between DAB and Freeview.
Ok- interesting. Radio 3, 4 and 5 are all I listen to, really- some
world service too.
Radio 3 and Radio 4 are better on FM than on DAB, so for fixed listening
stick with FM and invest in a proper aerial instead of a piece of wire
dangling behind the back of your hi-fi system.
For portable radio, get a portable radio with BOTH DAB and FM, then you
can compare to see which is best.
Radios 3, 4 and 5 are all better on Freeview than on DAB, albeit to
differing degrees.
Also, if you've got Sky then you could buy the Sky Gnome when it comes
out. See my home page for details about it:
www.digitalradiotech.co.uk
It's basically a portable radio that allows you to listen to the radio
stations on digital satellite within a 30 metre range of a Sky digibox
(I realise you've got Freeview, but you might have Sky as well).
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Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info
Find the cheapest Freeview, DAB & MP3 Player Prices:
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/fr..._receivers.htm
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/da...tal_radios.htm
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/mp...rs_1GB-5GB.htm
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/mp...e_capacity.htm
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August 13th 05, 08:49 PM
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BBC Proms Radio 3 - relentless stutter
In article , Keith G
writes
"chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy"
wrote
Oh, that's interesting. I'd been thinking of getting a cheap portable
DAB radio (thinking about the Bush one for £50 at Aldi's just now.) How
does it compare to the R3 broadcast you get on Freeview? I've recorded a
few of them, and the quality was good. Not CD quality, but I thought it
compared well with good quality FM recordings. Is it really not worth
buying a DAB radio? The portability is important.
So buy a portable DAB then - who cares about the nth degree of *quality* for
'music on the move'??? (And at 50 quid FFS!) Better to get 100% of a
'reasonably good' signal to have a supposedly better one (?) coming and
going, isn't it?
There OK for portable use with very small speakers, but not really much
cop for serious listening.........
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Tony Sayer
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August 13th 05, 08:57 PM
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BBC Proms Radio 3 - relentless stutter
In article , Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
On R3 and R4 (most of the time), I doubt most could tell the difference
between DAB and Freeview. But most pop stuff on DAB sounds truly dreadful
due to low bitrate. Apparently, the public want choice over quality for
this sort of stuff. Allegedly.
Are you sure you haven't put these the wrong way round? I have a tuner that
can receive both DAB and FM, and can listen to either through a good quality
hi-fi system, and the difference is quite clear with classical music or
speech, but to my ears, electronic pop music sounds electronic whatever I
use to listen to it (which is probably why I don't listen to pop music very
much).
I also have a DAB-only portable and over the years have owned more FM tuners
and receivers than I can remember (having built a few of them myself). The
DAB portable has a line output with which I can feed it into the hi-fi
system, which enables me to hear the same gritty burbling digital artefacts
that come out of the hi-fi tuner when switched to DAB, though when listening
through its own loudspeaker it doesn't sound any worse than a portable radio
normally does. I had hoped that the hi-fi tuner would give better sound than
the line output from the portable, but it doesn't. If I'd known this I'd
probably have bought an FM-only tuner.
So take your choice, depending on how "serious" you think your radio
listening is likely to be, though my recommendation for a portable would be
to get one that can do *both* FM and DAB, and has a line-level stereo output
which you could connect to a hi-fi system. Then you have all eventualities
covered, as an FM portable fed through a hi-fi system can sound quite good.
The story about DAB signals not fading is complete nonsense by the way,
because if a radio signal fades enough you eventually won't be able to
receive it no matter what transmission system is used, because if it ain't
there it ain't there. DAB reception just disappears rather differently. As
the signal fades, instead of becoming more hissy as FM would do, the sound
gives no hint of any problem until it suddenly screetches and yelps and then
disappears altogether.
Rod.
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August 14th 05, 09:16 AM
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BBC Proms Radio 3 - relentless stutter
In article ,
Roderick Stewart wrote:
On R3 and R4 (most of the time), I doubt most could tell the
difference between DAB and Freeview. But most pop stuff on DAB sounds
truly dreadful due to low bitrate. Apparently, the public want choice
over quality for this sort of stuff. Allegedly.
Are you sure you haven't put these the wrong way round? I have a tuner
that can receive both DAB and FM,
I didn't mention FM.
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Dave Plowman London SW
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August 14th 05, 09:39 AM
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BBC Proms Radio 3 - relentless stutter
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Roderick Stewart wrote:
On R3 and R4 (most of the time), I doubt most could tell the
difference between DAB and Freeview. But most pop stuff on DAB
sounds truly dreadful due to low bitrate. Apparently, the public
want choice over quality for this sort of stuff. Allegedly.
Are you sure you haven't put these the wrong way round? I have a
tuner that can receive both DAB and FM,
I didn't mention FM.
Erm, you said this:
"I can switch between R4 DAB, Freeview
and FM here easily, and apart from the different timing, all sound near
enough the same."
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Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info
Find the cheapest Freeview, DAB & MP3 Player Prices:
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/fr..._receivers.htm
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/da...tal_radios.htm
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/mp...rs_1GB-5GB.htm
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/mp...e_capacity.htm
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