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Old October 18th 05, 11:01 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
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Hi,

How important is the quality of power cords in a high end system?
Does it really make a difference in sound?

Thanks,

Vasilis

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Old October 18th 05, 12:13 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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How important is the quality of power cords in a high end system?

A year ago I was looking to buy a secondhand amplifier and found what I
wanted at a price I was willing to pay but it had an "improved" power
cable. I had two problems: firstly, people who do this sort of thing
are unlikely to be competent at working with electronic components and,
secondly, if someone saw me using an amplifier with a fancy power cable
it would be embarrassing. Replacing power cables devalues the resale
price of an amplifer (as do most modifications).

Does it really make a difference in sound?


What are the chances that a company cabable of designing and
constructing an audio amplifier is going to use an inadequate power
cable?

It does raise an interesting point though. When the nonsense around
speaker cables took off, speaker companies had to stop supplying
speaker cables. If they supplied normal wire it put off audiophiles and
if they supplied fancy cables the more technically competent would be
put off. Have the manufacturers of audiophile amplifiers started
supplying amplifiers without power cables?

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Old October 18th 05, 02:07 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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On 18 Oct 2005 04:01:16 -0700, "
wrote:

Does it really make a difference in sound?


Only if it doesn't reach.

Kal

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Old October 18th 05, 03:36 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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When you asked the question what answer were you looking for ? This news
group is fully of highly qualified experts who will tell you that cables
make no difference. Those who believe differently have ceased to argue.
Russ Andrews offers sale or return, claims great things for his cables and
gives reasons why he says they work, he would he sells cables as do lots of
other companies. Would I spend £800 on a mains cable I thought made the
music sound better, no! but I have bought Kimber mains and heard an
improvement. Some will say this is either just in my mind and that on a DBT
I would not be able to tell the difference or that my system is flawed and
badly designed. Why not try a few cables and let us know if it made any
difference for you ?
Regards Richard
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Hi,

How important is the quality of power cords in a high end system?
Does it really make a difference in sound?

Thanks,

Vasilis



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Old October 18th 05, 05:02 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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In article ,
Richard Wall wrote:
When you asked the question what answer were you looking for ? This
news group is fully of highly qualified experts who will tell you that
cables make no difference.


That's not strictly true. Try 'adequately' specified cables.

Those who believe differently have ceased to argue. Russ Andrews offers
sale or return, claims great things for his cables and gives reasons why
he says they work, he would he sells cables as do lots of other
companies. Would I spend £800 on a mains cable I thought made the music
sound better, no! but I have bought Kimber mains and heard an
improvement.


So would you expect the same improvment if you used that lead on an
electric kettle? Faster boiling? Because although interconnects and
speaker cables have to be able to handle varying frequencies etc, a mains
cable doesn't. And it's also connected to many yards of mains cable
feeding the socket. Then many miles of cable feeding the house from the
power station.

Some will say this is either just in my mind and that on a
DBT I would not be able to tell the difference or that my system is
flawed and badly designed. Why not try a few cables and let us know if
it made any difference for you ?


Everyone who decides to buy designer mains cables *will* hear a
difference. Pavlov's dog, etc.


Regards Richard New Ash Green Hi-Fi Club


Right. ;-)

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Old October 19th 05, 07:46 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
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In article , Richard Wall
wrote:
When you asked the question what answer were you looking for ? This
news group is fully of highly qualified experts who will tell you that
cables make no difference.


....or at least a number of people who have experimented with different
cables and established that they can't hear any signs that they affect the
sound unless the cables or amps have a fault of some kind.


Those who believe differently have ceased to argue.


....and avoid particpating in controlled tests because experience has shown
that those who "believe differently" are unable to substantiate their
"beliefs" when they have to rely only on the actual sounds the systems
produce.

Russ Andrews offers sale or return, claims great things for his cables
and gives reasons why he says they work, he would he sells cables as do
lots of other companies. Would I spend £800 on a mains cable I thought
made the music sound better, no! but I have bought Kimber mains and
heard an improvement.


I recall that back in the 1950s there was someone who used to advertise
'lucky charms' in the back of pulp magazines on a similar trial basis. They
seemed to remain in business...


Some will say this is either just in my mind and
that on a DBT I would not be able to tell the difference or that my
system is flawed and badly designed. Why not try a few cables and let us
know if it made any difference for you ?


I have (more than once) done so over the years. It didn't seem to make the
slightest difference. I couldn't hear any changes, and nor could anyone
else I tried them on. Maybe the problem was that I was using well designed
amplifiers with decent PSUs and cables that were adequate.

FWIW my personal reaction is that if changing the mains cable alters the
sound, I would suspect there was a serious problem with either the amp or
the cables involved.

Slainte,

Jim

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