audiohead wrote:

And, yes..double encoding, as DadiOn also suggested, is nothing short
of imbecilic.

Me? Not me. I suggested nothing...I merely pointed out that - as
usual - you haven't a clue about what you are saying.

You really should spend a little time trying to learn the terms and what
is actually happening when you rip/encode/"play"-decode. I don't think
an understanding of same is beyond even your demonstrated, meager
intelligence.


--
dadiOH
____________________________

dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico

I'm not sure if Winamp plays DRM encoded WMA's but if it does you might be
able to use the Diskwriter output plugin that sends the data to a .wav file,
instead of to the sound card.

I don't have any DRM files to try it though, sorry.

"Malcolm H" wrote in message
...
I have downloaded (and paid for) music tracks from the MSN music store
..The
downloaded tracks are in .wma format protected by DRM (Digital Rights
Management).

My media player (Squeezebox http://www.slimdevices.com/) will not play
these
files - so I wish to convert them to unprotected mp3.

Using Windows Media player I have successfully burned the downloaded .wma
files to a CD and then ripped the files from the CD to mp3 format. These
files can then be played by my Squeezebox.

Thus I have achieved my objective, but my question is - why is it
necessary
to burn a CD to achieve this result? Surely there must be a way of
achieving this conversion directly without going via a CD??

Answers will be awaited with interest.

dadiOH wrote:
audiohead wrote:
Still more stupidity and ignorance from the occasionally resident
spammer

You have to convert to CDA (CD audio track)

aka "wave"

"aka wave"?? CDA (CD audio track) is not even a file format until
it's encoded to WAV. CDA is used for encoding music on commercial
CD's. You're converting CDA files to another format when storing on a
PC's hard drive. You obviously don't know the difference.


before encoding to WAV format.

One does not "encode" wave...it is what was on the CD, no change other
than a header.
IOW, "CDA" WAVE.

Again, for storage on a windows PC an encoding from CDA to WAV is
necessary, which now contains chunks of information, including PCM,
that the original CDA didn't have.


Besides converting a lossy
DRM WMA to WAV is not a good suggestion.

Why not? That is exactly what is done everytime it is played. However,
there is no "conversion", merely decoding.


It's not a good suggestion because Malcolm is using a Squeezebox. You
can't "squeeze" too many WAV's into a Squeezebox. You obviously
haven't even read the original post, and are only interested in
irrelevant rebuttal to which you know nothing about.

Do us all a favor and redo your amateurish website, take your ADHD
medication, and find a forum for vinyl and cassette relics.


--
dadiOH
____________________________

dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico

This site really is a joke!!!. I can't stop laughing.

"audiohead" wrote:
dadiOH wrote:

You have to convert to CDA (CD audio track)

aka "wave"

"aka wave"?? CDA (CD audio track) is not even a file format until
it's encoded to WAV. CDA is used for encoding music on commercial
CD's. You're converting CDA files to another format when storing on a
PC's hard drive. You obviously don't know the difference.

The only difference is in the formatting. The data is exactly the
same.

before encoding to WAV format.

One does not "encode" wave...it is what was on the CD, no change other
than a header.
IOW, "CDA" WAVE.

Again, for storage on a windows PC an encoding from CDA to WAV is
necessary, which now contains chunks of information, including PCM,
that the original CDA didn't have.

Not.

Besides converting a lossy
DRM WMA to WAV is not a good suggestion.

Why not? That is exactly what is done everytime it is played. However,
there is no "conversion", merely decoding.

It's not a good suggestion because Malcolm is using a Squeezebox. You
can't "squeeze" too many WAV's into a Squeezebox. You obviously
haven't even read the original post, and are only interested in
irrelevant rebuttal to which you know nothing about.

Nice try.

Do us all a favor and redo your amateurish website, take your ADHD
medication, and find a forum for vinyl and cassette relics.

Take your schizophrenia medication.

--
Joel Crump

"Of course, it is ironic that a media company [Fox News Channel] that
should be seeking to protect the First Amendment is seeking to
undermine it by claiming a monopoly on the phrase 'fair and balanced.'"
- Judge Denny Chin, referring to Fox News accusing Al Franken of
trademark infringement.

Joel wrote:
"audiohead" wrote:
dadiOH wrote:

You have to convert to CDA (CD audio track)

aka "wave"

"aka wave"?? CDA (CD audio track) is not even a file format until
it's encoded to WAV. CDA is used for encoding music on commercial
CD's. You're converting CDA files to another format when storing on a
PC's hard drive. You obviously don't know the difference.

The only difference is in the formatting. The data is exactly the
same.


You need a file extension for playback moron.



before encoding to WAV format.

One does not "encode" wave...it is what was on the CD, no change other
than a header.
IOW, "CDA" WAVE.

Again, for storage on a windows PC an encoding from CDA to WAV is
necessary, which now contains chunks of information, including PCM,
that the original CDA didn't have.

Not.

For playback asswipe.


Besides converting a lossy
DRM WMA to WAV is not a good suggestion.

Why not? That is exactly what is done everytime it is played. However,
there is no "conversion", merely decoding.

It's not a good suggestion because Malcolm is using a Squeezebox. You
can't "squeeze" too many WAV's into a Squeezebox. You obviously
haven't even read the original post, and are only interested in
irrelevant rebuttal to which you know nothing about.

Nice try.

Do us all a favor and redo your amateurish website, take your ADHD
medication, and find a forum for vinyl and cassette relics.

Take your schizophrenia medication.

Have you ordered you new teeth yet Hillbilly? I see you're playing it
safe and keeping your responses down to one or two words. Seriously,
take a remedial English class so you can actually response in complete
sentences.

--
Joel Crump

"Of course, it is ironic that a media company [Fox News Channel] that
should be seeking to protect the First Amendment is seeking to
undermine it by claiming a monopoly on the phrase 'fair and balanced.'"
- Judge Denny Chin, referring to Fox News accusing Al Franken of
trademark infringement.

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dadiOH wrote:
audiohead wrote:

And, yes..double encoding, as DadiOn also suggested, is nothing short
of imbecilic.

Me? Not me. I suggested nothing...I merely pointed out that - as
usual - you haven't a clue about what you are saying.

You really should spend a little time trying to learn the terms and what
is actually happening when you rip/encode/"play"-decode. I don't think
an understanding of same is beyond even your demonstrated, meager
intelligence.

That says a lot from someone who doesn't even know that files can be
edited in Nero. Oh, I forgot you pretended that you had actually used
this program before.

audiohead wrote:
dadiOH wrote:
You really should spend a little time trying to learn the terms and
what is actually happening when you rip/encode/"play"-decode. I
don't think an understanding of same is beyond even your
demonstrated, meager intelligence.

That says a lot from someone who doesn't even know that files can be
edited in Nero.

Your memory is worse than your "advice".

You advised someone to edit MP3s using the Nero WAVE editor. I pointed
out that the Nero WAVE editor doesn't edit MP3s, it edits waves. Like
any other WAVE editor. Any WAVE editor first decodes the MP3 to WAVE
then re-encodes that WAVE to MP3 when one has finished editing. Since
the OP was wanting to chop off silence a wave editor was a poor choice
as there are programs that can do it directly to the MP3 without the
necessity of decoding/encoding.

Try to comprehend the forgoing, it is a simple concept. Read it
multiple times as needed to understand.

--
dadiOH
____________________________

dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico

Why are you replying to your own messages?

"audiohead" wrote in message
oups.com...
Are you still up Hillbilly? Put your banjo away and stop playing with
yourself.


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"Paul Hill" wrote in message
...
Why are you replying to your own messages?

"audiohead" wrote in message
oups.com...
Are you still up Hillbilly? Put your banjo away and stop playing with
yourself.


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Would you silly little boys do us a favour and take the ukra crossposting
off this thread?

(Left in this one time just in case one of the clowns is posting from
ukra....)