Thank you gentlemen for your helpful and interesting responses.

"Malcolm H" wrote in message
...
Thank you gentlemen for your helpful and interesting responses.

The fact of the matter is that you didn't get any help from those gentlemen.
They used your post as a point of departure in their attack on DRM.

My suggestion would be to convert the DRM file to wav, using a variety of
programs, to see if you can find one that ignores DRM. What you want to do
is find a program that will allow you to make a compilation in wav. Then
simply convert the file back to the compressed file you want.

Start out with dbpoweramp music converter. If that doesn't work, try CDex.
No luck? Try burrn. In every case, you should download one of the older
versions of the program; it's less likely to know about DRM.

Norm Strong

wrote:
"Malcolm H" wrote in message
...
Thank you gentlemen for your helpful and interesting responses.

The fact of the matter is that you didn't get any help from those gentlemen.
They used your post as a point of departure in their attack on DRM.

My suggestion would be to convert the DRM file to wav, using a variety of
programs, to see if you can find one that ignores DRM. What you want to do
is find a program that will allow you to make a compilation in wav. Then
simply convert the file back to the compressed file you want.

Start out with dbpoweramp music converter. If that doesn't work, try CDex.
No luck? Try burrn. In every case, you should download one of the older
versions of the program; it's less likely to know about DRM.

Norm Strong

The only one in "departure" is you. Why don't you just name a
conversion program that ignores DRM? You have to convert to CDA (CD
audio track) before encoding to WAV format. Besides converting a lossy
DRM WMA to WAV is not a good suggestion.

audiohead wrote:
Still more stupidity and ignorance from the occasionally resident
spammer

You have to convert to CDA (CD audio track)

aka "wave"

before encoding to WAV format.

One does not "encode" wave...it is what was on the CD, no change other
than a header.
IOW, "CDA" WAVE.

Besides converting a lossy
DRM WMA to WAV is not a good suggestion.

Why not? That is exactly what is done everytime it is played. However,
there is no "conversion", merely decoding.


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dadiOH wrote:
audiohead wrote:
Still more stupidity and ignorance from the occasionally resident
spammer

You have to convert to CDA (CD audio track)

aka "wave"

"aka wave"?? CDA (CD audio track) is not even a file format until
it's encoded to WAV. CDA is used for encoding music on commercial
CD's. You're converting CDA files to another format when storing on a
PC's hard drive. You obviously don't know the difference.


before encoding to WAV format.

One does not "encode" wave...it is what was on the CD, no change other
than a header.
IOW, "CDA" WAVE.

Again, for storage on a windows PC an encoding from CDA to WAV is
necessary, which now contains chunks of information, including PCM,
that the original CDA didn't have.


Besides converting a lossy
DRM WMA to WAV is not a good suggestion.

Why not? That is exactly what is done everytime it is played. However,
there is no "conversion", merely decoding.


It's not a good suggestion because Malcolm is using a Squeezebox. You
can't "squeeze" too many WAV's into a Squeezebox. You obviously
haven't even read the original post, and are only interested in
irrelevant rebuttal to which you know nothing about.

Do us all a favor and redo your amateurish website, take your ADHD
medication, and find a forum for vinyl and cassette relics.


--
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____________________________

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...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico

This site really is a joke!!!. I can't stop laughing.

"audiohead" wrote:
dadiOH wrote:

You have to convert to CDA (CD audio track)

aka "wave"

"aka wave"?? CDA (CD audio track) is not even a file format until
it's encoded to WAV. CDA is used for encoding music on commercial
CD's. You're converting CDA files to another format when storing on a
PC's hard drive. You obviously don't know the difference.

The only difference is in the formatting. The data is exactly the
same.

before encoding to WAV format.

One does not "encode" wave...it is what was on the CD, no change other
than a header.
IOW, "CDA" WAVE.

Again, for storage on a windows PC an encoding from CDA to WAV is
necessary, which now contains chunks of information, including PCM,
that the original CDA didn't have.

Not.

Besides converting a lossy
DRM WMA to WAV is not a good suggestion.

Why not? That is exactly what is done everytime it is played. However,
there is no "conversion", merely decoding.

It's not a good suggestion because Malcolm is using a Squeezebox. You
can't "squeeze" too many WAV's into a Squeezebox. You obviously
haven't even read the original post, and are only interested in
irrelevant rebuttal to which you know nothing about.

Nice try.

Do us all a favor and redo your amateurish website, take your ADHD
medication, and find a forum for vinyl and cassette relics.

Take your schizophrenia medication.

--
Joel Crump

"Of course, it is ironic that a media company [Fox News Channel] that
should be seeking to protect the First Amendment is seeking to
undermine it by claiming a monopoly on the phrase 'fair and balanced.'"
- Judge Denny Chin, referring to Fox News accusing Al Franken of
trademark infringement.

Joel wrote:
"audiohead" wrote:
dadiOH wrote:

You have to convert to CDA (CD audio track)

aka "wave"

"aka wave"?? CDA (CD audio track) is not even a file format until
it's encoded to WAV. CDA is used for encoding music on commercial
CD's. You're converting CDA files to another format when storing on a
PC's hard drive. You obviously don't know the difference.

The only difference is in the formatting. The data is exactly the
same.


You need a file extension for playback moron.



before encoding to WAV format.

One does not "encode" wave...it is what was on the CD, no change other
than a header.
IOW, "CDA" WAVE.

Again, for storage on a windows PC an encoding from CDA to WAV is
necessary, which now contains chunks of information, including PCM,
that the original CDA didn't have.

Not.

For playback asswipe.


Besides converting a lossy
DRM WMA to WAV is not a good suggestion.

Why not? That is exactly what is done everytime it is played. However,
there is no "conversion", merely decoding.

It's not a good suggestion because Malcolm is using a Squeezebox. You
can't "squeeze" too many WAV's into a Squeezebox. You obviously
haven't even read the original post, and are only interested in
irrelevant rebuttal to which you know nothing about.

Nice try.

Do us all a favor and redo your amateurish website, take your ADHD
medication, and find a forum for vinyl and cassette relics.

Take your schizophrenia medication.

Have you ordered you new teeth yet Hillbilly? I see you're playing it
safe and keeping your responses down to one or two words. Seriously,
take a remedial English class so you can actually response in complete
sentences.

--
Joel Crump

"Of course, it is ironic that a media company [Fox News Channel] that
should be seeking to protect the First Amendment is seeking to
undermine it by claiming a monopoly on the phrase 'fair and balanced.'"
- Judge Denny Chin, referring to Fox News accusing Al Franken of
trademark infringement.

wrote:
"Malcolm H" wrote in message
...
Thank you gentlemen for your helpful and interesting responses.

The fact of the matter is that you didn't get any help from those
gentlemen. They used your post as a point of departure in their
attack on DRM.
My suggestion would be to convert the DRM file to wav, using a
variety of programs, to see if you can find one that ignores DRM. What you
want to do is find a program that will allow you to make a
compilation in wav. Then simply convert the file back to the
compressed file you want.
Start out with dbpoweramp music converter. If that doesn't work, try
CDex. No luck? Try burrn. In every case, you should download one of
the older versions of the program; it's less likely to know about DRM.

Norm Strong

Norm, we offered the OP a way to do what he wants to do. You offered him
nothing useful at all - you say "find a program that does what you want".
Great advice!

Question "I'm poor, how can I be rich" Answer from Norm "That's easy, find
something that will make you rich instead of poor".

Incidentally going directly to WAV and then back to MP3 is a double encoding
that you'd what to avoid but unless there is a way that none of us knows
about to 'strip' the DRM out of the file (and I don't believe the DRM is
just in the header), any program would HAVE to do that anyway.

Good luck, Malcolm

Rolo

Norm, we offered the OP a way to do what he wants to do. You offered
him
nothing useful at all - you say "find a program that does what you
want".
Great advice!

Question "I'm poor, how can I be rich" Answer from Norm "That's easy,
find
something that will make you rich instead of poor".


Incidentally going directly to WAV and then back to MP3 is a double
encoding
that you'd what to avoid but unless there is a way that none of us
knows
about to 'strip' the DRM out of the file (and I don't believe the DRM
is
just in the header), any program would HAVE to do that anyway.


Good luck, Malcolm


Rolo


Yeah, Obviously, Norm has never converted a DRM file in his life.
And, yes..double encoding, as DadiOn also suggested, is nothing short
of imbecilic.

audiohead wrote:

And, yes..double encoding, as DadiOn also suggested, is nothing short
of imbecilic.

Me? Not me. I suggested nothing...I merely pointed out that - as
usual - you haven't a clue about what you are saying.

You really should spend a little time trying to learn the terms and what
is actually happening when you rip/encode/"play"-decode. I don't think
an understanding of same is beyond even your demonstrated, meager
intelligence.


--
dadiOH
____________________________

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....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico