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Malcolm H October 21st 05 02:59 PM

WMA DRM and MP3 questions
 
I have downloaded (and paid for) music tracks from the MSN music store .The
downloaded tracks are in .wma format protected by DRM (Digital Rights
Management).

My media player (Squeezebox http://www.slimdevices.com/) will not play these
files - so I wish to convert them to unprotected mp3.

Using Windows Media player I have successfully burned the downloaded .wma
files to a CD and then ripped the files from the CD to mp3 format. These
files can then be played by my Squeezebox.

Thus I have achieved my objective, but my question is - why is it necessary
to burn a CD to achieve this result? Surely there must be a way of
achieving this conversion directly without going via a CD??

Answers will be awaited with interest.




Mike Walsh October 21st 05 03:26 PM

WMA DRM and MP3 questions
 

If the DRM people had their way you would not be able to convert from audio CD to any other format. Since the audio CD format is not a computer file, once you have the music on a CD you are free to do whatever you want with it.


Malcolm H wrote:

I have downloaded (and paid for) music tracks from the MSN music store .The
downloaded tracks are in .wma format protected by DRM (Digital Rights
Management).

My media player (Squeezebox http://www.slimdevices.com/) will not play these
files - so I wish to convert them to unprotected mp3.

Using Windows Media player I have successfully burned the downloaded .wma
files to a CD and then ripped the files from the CD to mp3 format. These
files can then be played by my Squeezebox.

Thus I have achieved my objective, but my question is - why is it necessary
to burn a CD to achieve this result? Surely there must be a way of
achieving this conversion directly without going via a CD??

Answers will be awaited with interest.


--
Mike Walsh
West Palm Beach, Florida, U.S.A.


audiohead October 22nd 05 07:38 AM

WMA DRM and MP3 questions
 
It's either burn and rip or remain stuck with the DRM WMA monopolizers.
Just be thankful that we can still convert to "Audio CD"...for now.
It's the same for protected AAC.


Rolo Tomassi October 22nd 05 10:10 AM

WMA DRM and MP3 questions
 
Malcolm H wrote:
I have downloaded (and paid for) music tracks from the MSN music
store .The downloaded tracks are in .wma format protected by DRM
(Digital Rights Management).

My media player (Squeezebox http://www.slimdevices.com/) will not
play these files - so I wish to convert them to unprotected mp3.

Using Windows Media player I have successfully burned the downloaded
.wma files to a CD and then ripped the files from the CD to mp3
format. These files can then be played by my Squeezebox.

Thus I have achieved my objective, but my question is - why is it
necessary to burn a CD to achieve this result? Surely there must be
a way of achieving this conversion directly without going via a CD??

Answers will be awaited with interest.


You could use something like totalrecorder and record the 16bit 44KHz sound
stream that goes to your soundcard but it's all done in real time. The
CD-RW route is the cheapest and quickest.

HTH

Rolo



Malcolm H October 22nd 05 10:50 AM

WMA DRM and MP3 questions
 
Thank you gentlemen for your helpful and interesting responses.



October 22nd 05 03:18 PM

WMA DRM and MP3 questions
 

"Malcolm H" wrote in message
...
Thank you gentlemen for your helpful and interesting responses.


The fact of the matter is that you didn't get any help from those gentlemen.
They used your post as a point of departure in their attack on DRM.

My suggestion would be to convert the DRM file to wav, using a variety of
programs, to see if you can find one that ignores DRM. What you want to do
is find a program that will allow you to make a compilation in wav. Then
simply convert the file back to the compressed file you want.

Start out with dbpoweramp music converter. If that doesn't work, try CDex.
No luck? Try burrn. In every case, you should download one of the older
versions of the program; it's less likely to know about DRM.

Norm Strong



audiohead October 23rd 05 08:51 AM

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wrote:
"Malcolm H" wrote in message
...
Thank you gentlemen for your helpful and interesting responses.


The fact of the matter is that you didn't get any help from those gentlemen.
They used your post as a point of departure in their attack on DRM.

My suggestion would be to convert the DRM file to wav, using a variety of
programs, to see if you can find one that ignores DRM. What you want to do
is find a program that will allow you to make a compilation in wav. Then
simply convert the file back to the compressed file you want.

Start out with dbpoweramp music converter. If that doesn't work, try CDex.
No luck? Try burrn. In every case, you should download one of the older
versions of the program; it's less likely to know about DRM.

Norm Strong


The only one in "departure" is you. Why don't you just name a
conversion program that ignores DRM? You have to convert to CDA (CD
audio track) before encoding to WAV format. Besides converting a lossy
DRM WMA to WAV is not a good suggestion.


dadiOH October 23rd 05 01:51 PM

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audiohead wrote:
Still more stupidity and ignorance from the occasionally resident
spammer

You have to convert to CDA (CD audio track)


aka "wave"

before encoding to WAV format.


One does not "encode" wave...it is what was on the CD, no change other
than a header.
IOW, "CDA" WAVE.

Besides converting a lossy
DRM WMA to WAV is not a good suggestion.


Why not? That is exactly what is done everytime it is played. However,
there is no "conversion", merely decoding.


--
dadiOH
____________________________

dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico



Rolo Tomassi October 23rd 05 08:06 PM

WMA DRM and MP3 questions
 
wrote:
"Malcolm H" wrote in message
...
Thank you gentlemen for your helpful and interesting responses.


The fact of the matter is that you didn't get any help from those
gentlemen. They used your post as a point of departure in their
attack on DRM.
My suggestion would be to convert the DRM file to wav, using a
variety of programs, to see if you can find one that ignores DRM. What you
want to do is find a program that will allow you to make a
compilation in wav. Then simply convert the file back to the
compressed file you want.
Start out with dbpoweramp music converter. If that doesn't work, try
CDex. No luck? Try burrn. In every case, you should download one of
the older versions of the program; it's less likely to know about DRM.

Norm Strong


Norm, we offered the OP a way to do what he wants to do. You offered him
nothing useful at all - you say "find a program that does what you want".
Great advice!

Question "I'm poor, how can I be rich" Answer from Norm "That's easy, find
something that will make you rich instead of poor".

Incidentally going directly to WAV and then back to MP3 is a double encoding
that you'd what to avoid but unless there is a way that none of us knows
about to 'strip' the DRM out of the file (and I don't believe the DRM is
just in the header), any program would HAVE to do that anyway.

Good luck, Malcolm

Rolo



audiohead October 25th 05 03:42 AM

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Norm, we offered the OP a way to do what he wants to do. You offered
him
nothing useful at all - you say "find a program that does what you
want".
Great advice!

Question "I'm poor, how can I be rich" Answer from Norm "That's easy,
find
something that will make you rich instead of poor".


Incidentally going directly to WAV and then back to MP3 is a double
encoding
that you'd what to avoid but unless there is a way that none of us
knows
about to 'strip' the DRM out of the file (and I don't believe the DRM
is
just in the header), any program would HAVE to do that anyway.


Good luck, Malcolm


Rolo


Yeah, Obviously, Norm has never converted a DRM file in his life.
And, yes..double encoding, as DadiOn also suggested, is nothing short
of imbecilic.


dadiOH October 25th 05 12:48 PM

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audiohead wrote:

And, yes..double encoding, as DadiOn also suggested, is nothing short
of imbecilic.


Me? Not me. I suggested nothing...I merely pointed out that - as
usual - you haven't a clue about what you are saying.

You really should spend a little time trying to learn the terms and what
is actually happening when you rip/encode/"play"-decode. I don't think
an understanding of same is beyond even your demonstrated, meager
intelligence.


--
dadiOH
____________________________

dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico



Paul Hill October 25th 05 03:36 PM

WMA DRM and MP3 questions
 
I'm not sure if Winamp plays DRM encoded WMA's but if it does you might be
able to use the Diskwriter output plugin that sends the data to a .wav file,
instead of to the sound card.

I don't have any DRM files to try it though, sorry.

"Malcolm H" wrote in message
...
I have downloaded (and paid for) music tracks from the MSN music store

..The
downloaded tracks are in .wma format protected by DRM (Digital Rights
Management).

My media player (Squeezebox http://www.slimdevices.com/) will not play

these
files - so I wish to convert them to unprotected mp3.

Using Windows Media player I have successfully burned the downloaded .wma
files to a CD and then ripped the files from the CD to mp3 format. These
files can then be played by my Squeezebox.

Thus I have achieved my objective, but my question is - why is it

necessary
to burn a CD to achieve this result? Surely there must be a way of
achieving this conversion directly without going via a CD??

Answers will be awaited with interest.






audiohead October 26th 05 08:59 AM

WMA DRM and MP3 questions
 
dadiOH wrote:
audiohead wrote:
Still more stupidity and ignorance from the occasionally resident
spammer

You have to convert to CDA (CD audio track)


aka "wave"


"aka wave"?? CDA (CD audio track) is not even a file format until
it's encoded to WAV. CDA is used for encoding music on commercial
CD's. You're converting CDA files to another format when storing on a
PC's hard drive. You obviously don't know the difference.


before encoding to WAV format.


One does not "encode" wave...it is what was on the CD, no change other
than a header.
IOW, "CDA" WAVE.


Again, for storage on a windows PC an encoding from CDA to WAV is
necessary, which now contains chunks of information, including PCM,
that the original CDA didn't have.


Besides converting a lossy
DRM WMA to WAV is not a good suggestion.


Why not? That is exactly what is done everytime it is played. However,
there is no "conversion", merely decoding.


It's not a good suggestion because Malcolm is using a Squeezebox. You
can't "squeeze" too many WAV's into a Squeezebox. You obviously
haven't even read the original post, and are only interested in
irrelevant rebuttal to which you know nothing about.

Do us all a favor and redo your amateurish website, take your ADHD
medication, and find a forum for vinyl and cassette relics.


--
dadiOH
____________________________

dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico


This site really is a joke!!!. I can't stop laughing.


Joel October 26th 05 09:08 AM

WMA DRM and MP3 questions
 
"audiohead" wrote:
dadiOH wrote:

You have to convert to CDA (CD audio track)


aka "wave"


"aka wave"?? CDA (CD audio track) is not even a file format until
it's encoded to WAV. CDA is used for encoding music on commercial
CD's. You're converting CDA files to another format when storing on a
PC's hard drive. You obviously don't know the difference.


The only difference is in the formatting. The data is exactly the
same.

before encoding to WAV format.


One does not "encode" wave...it is what was on the CD, no change other
than a header.
IOW, "CDA" WAVE.


Again, for storage on a windows PC an encoding from CDA to WAV is
necessary, which now contains chunks of information, including PCM,
that the original CDA didn't have.


Not.

Besides converting a lossy
DRM WMA to WAV is not a good suggestion.


Why not? That is exactly what is done everytime it is played. However,
there is no "conversion", merely decoding.


It's not a good suggestion because Malcolm is using a Squeezebox. You
can't "squeeze" too many WAV's into a Squeezebox. You obviously
haven't even read the original post, and are only interested in
irrelevant rebuttal to which you know nothing about.


Nice try.

Do us all a favor and redo your amateurish website, take your ADHD
medication, and find a forum for vinyl and cassette relics.


Take your schizophrenia medication.

--
Joel Crump

"Of course, it is ironic that a media company [Fox News Channel] that
should be seeking to protect the First Amendment is seeking to
undermine it by claiming a monopoly on the phrase 'fair and balanced.'"
- Judge Denny Chin, referring to Fox News accusing Al Franken of
trademark infringement.

audiohead October 26th 05 09:37 AM

WMA DRM and MP3 questions
 
Joel wrote:
"audiohead" wrote:
dadiOH wrote:

You have to convert to CDA (CD audio track)

aka "wave"


"aka wave"?? CDA (CD audio track) is not even a file format until
it's encoded to WAV. CDA is used for encoding music on commercial
CD's. You're converting CDA files to another format when storing on a
PC's hard drive. You obviously don't know the difference.


The only difference is in the formatting. The data is exactly the
same.



You need a file extension for playback moron.



before encoding to WAV format.

One does not "encode" wave...it is what was on the CD, no change other
than a header.
IOW, "CDA" WAVE.


Again, for storage on a windows PC an encoding from CDA to WAV is
necessary, which now contains chunks of information, including PCM,
that the original CDA didn't have.


Not.


For playback asswipe.


Besides converting a lossy
DRM WMA to WAV is not a good suggestion.

Why not? That is exactly what is done everytime it is played. However,
there is no "conversion", merely decoding.


It's not a good suggestion because Malcolm is using a Squeezebox. You
can't "squeeze" too many WAV's into a Squeezebox. You obviously
haven't even read the original post, and are only interested in
irrelevant rebuttal to which you know nothing about.


Nice try.

Do us all a favor and redo your amateurish website, take your ADHD
medication, and find a forum for vinyl and cassette relics.


Take your schizophrenia medication.


Have you ordered you new teeth yet Hillbilly? I see you're playing it
safe and keeping your responses down to one or two words. Seriously,
take a remedial English class so you can actually response in complete
sentences.

--
Joel Crump

"Of course, it is ironic that a media company [Fox News Channel] that
should be seeking to protect the First Amendment is seeking to
undermine it by claiming a monopoly on the phrase 'fair and balanced.'"
- Judge Denny Chin, referring to Fox News accusing Al Franken of
trademark infringement.



audiohead October 26th 05 09:42 AM

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Are you still up Hillbilly? Put your banjo away and stop playing with
yourself.

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audiohead October 26th 05 10:16 AM

WMA DRM and MP3 questions
 
dadiOH wrote:
audiohead wrote:

And, yes..double encoding, as DadiOn also suggested, is nothing short
of imbecilic.


Me? Not me. I suggested nothing...I merely pointed out that - as
usual - you haven't a clue about what you are saying.

You really should spend a little time trying to learn the terms and what
is actually happening when you rip/encode/"play"-decode. I don't think
an understanding of same is beyond even your demonstrated, meager
intelligence.


That says a lot from someone who doesn't even know that files can be
edited in Nero. Oh, I forgot you pretended that you had actually used
this program before.






dadiOH October 26th 05 12:25 PM

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audiohead wrote:
dadiOH wrote:
You really should spend a little time trying to learn the terms and
what is actually happening when you rip/encode/"play"-decode. I
don't think an understanding of same is beyond even your
demonstrated, meager intelligence.


That says a lot from someone who doesn't even know that files can be
edited in Nero.


Your memory is worse than your "advice".

You advised someone to edit MP3s using the Nero WAVE editor. I pointed
out that the Nero WAVE editor doesn't edit MP3s, it edits waves. Like
any other WAVE editor. Any WAVE editor first decodes the MP3 to WAVE
then re-encodes that WAVE to MP3 when one has finished editing. Since
the OP was wanting to chop off silence a wave editor was a poor choice
as there are programs that can do it directly to the MP3 without the
necessity of decoding/encoding.

Try to comprehend the forgoing, it is a simple concept. Read it
multiple times as needed to understand.

--
dadiOH
____________________________

dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico



Paul Hill October 26th 05 12:42 PM

WMA DRM and MP3 questions
 
Why are you replying to your own messages?

"audiohead" wrote in message
oups.com...
Are you still up Hillbilly? Put your banjo away and stop playing with
yourself.


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Have you figured it out yet? Keep working on it you stupid Hillbilly.




Keith G October 26th 05 12:52 PM

WMA DRM and MP3 questions
 

"Paul Hill" wrote in message
...
Why are you replying to your own messages?

"audiohead" wrote in message
oups.com...
Are you still up Hillbilly? Put your banjo away and stop playing with
yourself.


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kjgkljglkglkglkglkglkglkg

Have you figured it out yet? Keep working on it you stupid Hillbilly.




Would you silly little boys do us a favour and take the ukra crossposting
off this thread?

(Left in this one time just in case one of the clowns is posting from
ukra....)






CQ October 26th 05 01:49 PM

WMA DRM and MP3 questions
 
In article , Keith G said...

Would you silly little boys do us a favour and take the ukra crossposting
off this thread?


Yes, that always works.

How many of the people in the thread do you really think are "silly
little boys" you arrogant fool? Why do you think the only one
(audiohead) that is actually silly or a little boy would care whether or
not he bothers you and your group? The ONLY reason he posts to the amm
group is to bother the people here.

Nice job though. You have called his attention to the fact that he is
now bothering those in another group and he may well take to bothering
you and have less time in his, err, busy life for bothering the
contributors to this group.

Thank you.
--
CQ


Keith G October 26th 05 02:35 PM

WMA DRM and MP3 questions
 

"CQ" wrote in message
. ..
In article , Keith G said...

Would you silly little boys do us a favour and take the ukra crossposting
off this thread?


Yes, that always works.

How many of the people in the thread do you really think are "silly
little boys" you arrogant fool?



Three, counting you, but I haven't really been paying close attention...


Why do you think the only one
(audiohead) that is actually silly or a little boy would care whether or
not he bothers you and your group?



No, beats me - you'll have to tell me....


The ONLY reason he posts to the amm
group is to bother the people here.



That much is obvious, as is the fact that there seem to be plenty of people
in amm who are equally silly enough to respond to him....


Nice job though. You have called his attention to the fact that he is
now bothering those in another group and he may well take to bothering
you and have less time in his, err, busy life for bothering the
contributors to this group.



Or I have called his attention to the fact that he is also making himself
look a tit to people not subscribing to his 'own' group...???



Thank you.



My pleasure... :-)

(Crossposting left in intentionally...)





Joel October 26th 05 05:14 PM

WMA DRM and MP3 questions
 
"Keith G" wrote:
"CQ" wrote in message
...

Would you silly little boys do us a favour and take the ukra crossposting
off this thread?


Yes, that always works.

How many of the people in the thread do you really think are "silly
little boys" you arrogant fool?


Three, counting you, but I haven't really been paying close attention...


Then you're at least as "silly" as anyone else who replied. What's
good for the goose is good for the gander. What figure in your life
convinced you that you're so special?

Why do you think the only one
(audiohead) that is actually silly or a little boy would care whether or
not he bothers you and your group?


No, beats me - you'll have to tell me....


Oh, so now you're just an innocent, outside observer. When you first
replied, though, you sure sounded like you knew what you were talking
about.

The ONLY reason he posts to the amm
group is to bother the people here.


That much is obvious, as is the fact that there seem to be plenty of people
in amm who are equally silly enough to respond to him....


Which is what you, yourself, did. Why would you respond in this
situation, rather than just ignoring the messages?

Nice job though. You have called his attention to the fact that he is
now bothering those in another group and he may well take to bothering
you and have less time in his, err, busy life for bothering the
contributors to this group.


Or I have called his attention to the fact that he is also making himself
look a tit to people not subscribing to his 'own' group...???


Which is his goal to begin with. By obsessing over unwanted
crossposted messages to the newsgroup you're reading, you become the
silliest little boy of all. Perhaps it gives you some fleeting
feeling of power, but if so, you really need to get out more.

--
Joel Crump

"Of course, it is ironic that a media company [Fox News Channel] that
should be seeking to protect the First Amendment is seeking to
undermine it by claiming a monopoly on the phrase 'fair and balanced.'"
- Judge Denny Chin, referring to Fox News accusing Al Franken of
trademark infringement.

Keith G October 26th 05 05:57 PM

WMA DRM and MP3 questions
 

"Joel" wrote


more silly **** snipped


Which is his goal to begin with. By obsessing over unwanted
crossposted messages to the newsgroup you're reading, you become the
silliest little boy of all. Perhaps it gives you some fleeting
feeling of power, but if so, you really need to get out more.



Nice strong start, straight in with the acerbic, incisive polemic which I
would have though would be worth 7/10 (couldn't make it more than that -
strange punctuation) then you spoil it with the above paragraph, which is
too cliched to make it more than, say, 6/10...

Then comes the funny name...


--
Joel Crump



So that's a five....

(If that's your real name I'd sue me parents, if I were you.. ;-)


And then this crap....


"Of course, it is ironic that a media company [Fox News Channel] that
should be seeking to protect the First Amendment is seeking to
undermine it by claiming a monopoly on the phrase 'fair and balanced.'"
- Judge Denny Chin, referring to Fox News accusing Al Franken of
trademark infringement.



....knocks it all the way down to a 4!! (Sorry, but I'm being generous here!!
:-)

Care to try again..?? :-)

(Why do these pumped-up, self-important clowns *always* have these ****ing
stupid *sigs*...??)





CQ October 27th 05 11:24 AM

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In article , Keith G said...

Three, counting you,


I regret the "arrogant fool" comment. I should have left it "arrogant
asshole" as I originally wrote it.

but I haven't really been paying close attention...


No. That seems to be a problem for you. Too self involved, perhaps?

Why do you think the only one
(audiohead) that is actually silly or a little boy would care whether or
not he bothers you and your group?



No, beats me -


No? You can't answer that question with a yes or no. Without a comma
after the "why" its answer requires an opinion. Is that sort of thing as
much trouble for you as paying close attention is?

you'll have to tell me....


I asked you about what you think. Do you often have to ask others to
tell you what it is you think and why you think those things?

The ONLY reason he posts to the amm
group is to bother the people here.



That much is obvious,


Yet you seemed to have missed it until it was pointed out to you. More
of that "not paying close attention" problem?

as is the fact that there seem to be plenty of people
in amm who are equally silly enough to respond to him....


Actually there only seem to be two people here who bother with him
anymore. Why they do is beyond me but neither of them are silly little
boys, no matter what an attention deprived self involved pompous little
pedant like yourself has to say. A simple "please remove the xpost"
would have had much more chance of success with them than your gratuitous
and condescending attempts at insult.

Nice job though. You have called his attention to the fact that he is
now bothering those in another group and he may well take to bothering
you and have less time in his, err, busy life for bothering the
contributors to this group.



Or I have called his attention to the fact that he is also making himself
look a tit to people not subscribing to his 'own' group...???


Oh yes. And the two people who are answering him here, what exactly do
you think THEY are doing when they answer him? Inviting him over for a
beer? The guy isn't going to be any more impressed by you calling him a
"tit" than he is by anyone else pointing out what an ass he is, no matter
what you think of your ability to apply withering insult at whim.

He is actually so stupid that he will not understand that the word "tit"
as you use it is different from the American slang that he knows which is
the only thing his limited range of intelligence allows him awareness of.

He'll think you are saying he looks like a woman's breast.

Thank you.


My pleasure... :-)

(Crossposting left in intentionally...)


Well at least you were paying attention to something.

You came here whining about crossposting of a silly thread and slinging
gratuitous insults at people you do not know, even descending to the
amazingly puerile tactic of making fun of a person's name, yet now, when
you have been replied to in kind, you feel it is alright for you to
crosspost and perpetuate the same thread. We can add hypocrite to the
short list of attributes you have demonstrated in your short time in the
amm group.

--
CQ


Keith G October 27th 05 12:23 PM

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"CQ" wrote in message
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In article , Keith G said...

Three, counting you,


I regret the "arrogant fool" comment. I should have left it "arrogant
asshole" as I originally wrote it.



OK, it's lunchtime, I'll play.... :-)

Btw, that'd be *arsehole* in ukra....


but I haven't really been paying close attention...


No. That seems to be a problem for you. Too self involved, perhaps?



Possibly. Who knows/cares/gives a ****...???


Why do you think the only one
(audiohead) that is actually silly or a little boy would care whether
or
not he bothers you and your group?



No, beats me -


No? You can't answer that question with a yes or no.



Correct, it's difficult to answer a 'why' question with either one, I
find....


Without a comma
after the "why" its answer requires an opinion.



Requires? Like I'm *obliged* to provide you with one or summat??

(Do I get to invoice you if I do??)


Is that sort of thing as
much trouble for you as paying close attention is?



I don't pay any attention to cross-posted threads normally, it's just that
yours had gone on and on and on....


you'll have to tell me....



So I do get to invoice you then? Simple yes or no will do - seeing as you
are so fond of yes or no answers...



I asked you about what you think. Do you often have to ask others to
tell you what it is you think and why you think those things?



All the time - and why I've gone into certain rooms at times and WTF it was
that I was looking for when I had gone into those rooms...

I also lose teaspoons...



The ONLY reason he posts to the amm
group is to bother the people here.



That much is obvious,


Yet you seemed to have missed it until it was pointed out to you. More
of that "not paying close attention" problem?




I guess....

shrug


as is the fact that there seem to be plenty of people
in amm who are equally silly enough to respond to him....


Actually there only seem to be two people here who bother with him
anymore.



Did I ask?


Why they do is beyond me but neither of them are silly little
boys,



Do I care?


no matter what an attention deprived self involved pompous little
pedant like yourself has to say.



Your punctuation has gone to **** as well - are you an American?


A simple "please remove the xpost"


"Yes, that always works."


would have had much more chance of success with them than your gratuitous
and condescending attempts at insult.



Yebbut, where's the fun in that? :-)



Nice job though. You have called his attention to the fact that he is
now bothering those in another group and he may well take to bothering
you and have less time in his, err, busy life for bothering the
contributors to this group.



Or I have called his attention to the fact that he is also making himself
look a tit to people not subscribing to his 'own' group...???


Oh yes. And the two people who are answering him here, what exactly do
you think THEY are doing when they answer him? Inviting him over for a
beer? The guy isn't going to be any more impressed by you calling him a
"tit" than he is by anyone else pointing out what an ass he is, no matter
what you think of your ability to apply withering insult at whim.

He is actually so stupid that he will not understand that the word "tit"



You've said 'tit' twice now - do you like that word?


as you use it is different from the American slang that he knows which is
the only thing his limited range of intelligence allows him awareness of.



If Yanks leak into UK newgroups they get UK currency - it's hard, but it's
the way of the world....



He'll think you are saying he looks like a woman's breast.



There you go again!

(I think you're enjoying this! :-)



Thank you.


My pleasure... :-)

(Crossposting left in intentionally...)


Well at least you were paying attention to something.



Go on, what was that then?



You came here whining



I think you're the one doing the *whining* moi beauty... ;-)


about crossposting of a silly thread and slinging
gratuitous insults at people you do not know, even descending to the
amazingly puerile tactic of making fun of a person's name,



It's a terrible name - sounds like a low-speed traffic accident.

OTOH, if it is his real name, it shows he's got gut and doesn't hide behind
summay tossy like 'CQ'....


yet now, when
you have been replied to in kind, you feel it is alright for you to
crosspost and perpetuate the same thread.



****in' terrible ain't I?? ;-)


We can add hypocrite to the
short list of attributes you have demonstrated in your short time in the
amm group.


Go on then, why not if it makes you happy...?? :-)

You'll have to excuse me now - me tea's cooled down a bit!

Ciao...





Joel October 27th 05 03:15 PM

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"Keith G" wrote:

It's a terrible name - sounds like a low-speed traffic accident.


But the funny thing is that I could kick your fruity "arse" all over
the floor. For proof, one only needs read your born-with-silver-
spoon-up-arse, pansy posts. I have rarely seen someone quite so
antisocially bourgeois on Usenet as yourself. Enjoy driving home in
your Jaguar to your boring family, so that you can wank on with the
lie you've been told that you're smart and special.

Or, as I'd say in American English, you's a ho.

--
Joel Crump

"Of course, it is ironic that a media company [Fox News Channel] that
should be seeking to protect the First Amendment is seeking to
undermine it by claiming a monopoly on the phrase 'fair and balanced.'"
- Judge Denny Chin, referring to Fox News accusing Al Franken of
trademark infringement.

Nick Gorham October 27th 05 03:35 PM

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Joel wrote:
"Keith G" wrote:


It's a terrible name - sounds like a low-speed traffic accident.



But the funny thing is that I could kick your fruity "arse" all over
the floor. For proof, one only needs read your born-with-silver-
spoon-up-arse, pansy posts. I have rarely seen someone quite so
antisocially bourgeois on Usenet as yourself. Enjoy driving home in
your Jaguar to your boring family, so that you can wank on with the
lie you've been told that you're smart and special.

Or, as I'd say in American English, you's a ho.


Always interesting to see how our colonial cousins see us.

Never mind Keith, you may not have a Jaguar, but at least you know how
to pronounce the name correctly :-).

--
Nick

CQ October 27th 05 03:46 PM

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In article , Keith G said...

OK, it's lunchtime, I'll play.... :-)


Been let out to the playground, have you?

Btw, that'd be *arsehole* in ukra....


Ah, but there is so much more to the world than your little rec.audio
group.

but I haven't really been paying close attention...


No. That seems to be a problem for you. Too self involved, perhaps?



Possibly. Who knows/cares/gives a ****...???


I don't know for sure, it was a guess, hence the "perhaps". I don't care
much, it was more in the way of a musing. Nobody around here gives a
**** but you do insist on inserting yourself in places where nobody cares
about your opinions so you are going to have to accept those of others in
return.

Optionally, you could just have the maturity to not read that which you
supposedly don't care/give a **** about, let alone respond to it.

Why do you think the only one
(audiohead) that is actually silly or a little boy would care whether
or
not he bothers you and your group?


No, beats me -


No? You can't answer that question with a yes or no.


Correct, it's difficult to answer a 'why' question with either one, I
find....


Yet you attempted to above? You are in such a hurry to demean you miss
the point and are demeaning yourself. Laughable.

Without a comma
after the "why" its answer requires an opinion.



Requires? Like I'm *obliged* to provide you with one or summat??


No, nobody said anything about you being obliged. Are you comprehension
challenged as well as attention deprived? The fact is you chose to
attempt to answer the original question. I merely pointed out that to do
so required an opinion, not a simple yes or no.

Note: "its answer requires". Clear enough for you?

Seems you have a bit of a problem addressing the subject matter at hand
and want to resort to silly deflection. No surprise.

So I do get to invoice you then? Simple yes or no will do - seeing as you
are so fond of yes or no answers...


No, I think not. You have yet to deliver anything of value.

I asked you about what you think. Do you often have to ask others to
tell you what it is you think and why you think those things?


All the time - and why I've gone into certain rooms at times and WTF it was
that I was looking for when I had gone into those rooms...


I also lose teaspoons...


Yes, but of everything you've lost I'm sure you miss your manners the
most, no? At least those strangers unlucky enough to encounter you in
public places certainly must miss your manners.

I guess....

shrug


Shrug? Is that meant to convey some sort of aloof lack of interest in
the point made? If that is the case then why respond at all?

How odd.

as is the fact that there seem to be plenty of people
in amm who are equally silly enough to respond to him....


Actually there only seem to be two people here who bother with him
anymore.



Did I ask?


You made an observation and an assumption that was in error. I corrected
your erroneous observation. Nobody can prevent a person such as you from
making assumptions, though.

Simple enough for you?

no matter what an attention deprived self involved pompous little
pedant like yourself has to say.



Your punctuation has gone to **** as well


Ah, 'twas a matter of style. Forgive me if I don't always conform, in my
writing in a relaxed and informal forum, to the pedantic and narrow
minded view you seem to hold of what is and what is not correct.

- are you an American?


Is this meant to imply that only Americans are capable of misusing
punctuation? Are you so incredibly closed minded as to believe this?

Have you never heard of James Joyce?

would have had much more chance of success with them than your gratuitous
and condescending attempts at insult.



Yebbut, where's the fun in that? :-)


Ah, so you are simply attempting to stir up **** because you find it to
be fun. I suspected as much.

Nice job though. You have called his attention to the fact that he is
now bothering those in another group and he may well take to bothering
you and have less time in his, err, busy life for bothering the
contributors to this group.


Or I have called his attention to the fact that he is also making himself
look a tit to people not subscribing to his 'own' group...???


Oh yes. And the two people who are answering him here, what exactly do
you think THEY are doing when they answer him? Inviting him over for a
beer? The guy isn't going to be any more impressed by you calling him a
"tit" than he is by anyone else pointing out what an ass he is, no matter
what you think of your ability to apply withering insult at whim.

He is actually so stupid that he will not understand that the word "tit"



You've said 'tit' twice now - do you like that word?


Not particularly, no. That would be why I included the quotation marks
to make it clear that it was your word choice that I was quoting.

Apparently you like the word.

as you use it is different from the American slang that he knows which is
the only thing his limited range of intelligence allows him awareness of.



If Yanks leak into UK newgroups they get UK currency - it's hard, but it's
the way of the world....


"Leak into UK newgroups"? Is your group new? Is your spelling going to
****e?

Also, since you want to be the grammar police, what's up with all these
groups of four periods? Are they supposed to be ellipses? That's all
botched up, Keith.

An ellipsis is done like so: " . . . "


He'll think you are saying he looks like a woman's breast.


There you go again!


In order to "go again" I would have had to have repeated something I'd
said or done previously.

What exactly was that?

(I think you're enjoying this! :-)


Watching you make an idiot and more than a bit of an ass out of yourself
while you are trying to be clever yet showing yourself to be nothing more
than an insufferable little pedant and a self-important fool has been
mildly amusing, yes.

However, you are quickly becoming quite boring.

snip

You came here whining


I think you're the one doing the *whining*


Howzat again? Whining? Where would that be?

moi beauty... ;-)


Well, the "moi" is misplaced but the other is the first thing you've
gotten even close to correct.

about crossposting of a silly thread and slinging
gratuitous insults at people you do not know, even descending to the
amazingly puerile tactic of making fun of a person's name,


It's a terrible name - sounds like a low-speed traffic accident.


Everyone can't be blessed with such mundane cognomens as yours, Mr.
Garratt.

Rather conjures up an image of someone being unsuccessfully strangled in
an attic, don't you think, Keith?

OTOH, if it is his real name, it shows he's got gut and doesn't hide behind
summay tossy like 'CQ'....


Hide behind? You seem to enjoy attempting insult where none exists. I'm
not hiding behind anything. I'm using, as is the usenet convention, a
"nym" or "nickname" to post. Many folks who regularly read this
newsgroup know exactly who I am, where I live, what I do, etc. Hard to
be hiding when I'm in such plain site.

yet now, when
you have been replied to in kind, you feel it is alright for you to
crosspost and perpetuate the same thread.



****in' terrible ain't I?? ;-)


Perhaps you would like to think so, but no. You are simply a typical
usenet pest with an overblown opinion of yourself.

We can add hypocrite to the
short list of attributes you have demonstrated in your short time in the
amm group.


Go on then, why not if it makes you happy...?? :-)


Excuse me, but what sort of punctuation is that, exactly? Gone right
down the toilet again, haven't you, Keith? You certainly do provide
ample proof that even the British can butcher the English language, even
while you continue to try and nitpick the usage of others and make broad
and inapt generalizations about people you do not know.

Yes, hypocrite it is then.

You'll have to excuse me now - me tea's cooled down a bit!


I can't see how that concerns me or causes me to "have to excuse" you.
Perhaps you meant "please excuse me now" but we already know you have
****-all for manners, right Keith old boy?

--
CQ


Keith G October 27th 05 04:21 PM

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"Nick Gorham" wrote in message
...
Joel wrote:
"Keith G" wrote:


It's a terrible name - sounds like a low-speed traffic accident.



But the funny thing is that I could kick your fruity "arse" all over
the floor. For proof, one only needs read your born-with-silver-
spoon-up-arse, pansy posts. I have rarely seen someone quite so
antisocially bourgeois on Usenet as yourself. Enjoy driving home in
your Jaguar to your boring family, so that you can wank on with the
lie you've been told that you're smart and special.

Or, as I'd say in American English, you's a ho.


Always interesting to see how our colonial cousins see us.

Never mind Keith, you may not have a Jaguar, but at least you know how to
pronounce the name correctly :-).



Should do - I've had two of 'em!! :-)





Keith G October 27th 05 05:13 PM

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"CQ" wrote in message
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In article , Keith G said...

OK, it's lunchtime, I'll play.... :-)


Been let out to the playground, have you?



Hmm, weak start...



Btw, that'd be *arsehole* in ukra....


Ah, but there is so much more to the world than your little rec.audio
group.



Yes there's ukrav still alive and well apparently...??


I don't know for sure, it was a guess, hence the "perhaps". I don't care
much, it was more in the way of a musing. Nobody around here gives a
****



Doesn't look that way to me... :-)


but you do insist on inserting yourself in places where nobody cares
about your opinions so you are going to have to accept those of others in
return.



No sweetie, it's you MP3ers who are crossposting into ukra as far as I'm
concerned...



Optionally, you could just have the maturity to not read that which you
supposedly don't care/give a **** about, let alone respond to it.



What and pass up the chance to have a bit of fun with a prick like you??

Let me quote you the bit that sparked my response after the thread had been
running for nearly a week:

"
kkhkhkhkkgkgkkkkhkgkggkkkkhkjhlkuglkglkhglkhgklhgl khglkglkhgglkhgggggggggggg
gggggggggggggglkjhgljkhglkhglhglkhglkhglkhglkjhglk hglkhglkhglkhglkhglkhglkhg
lkhglkhglkhglkhglkhglkhglkhglkhglkhglkhglkhglkhglk hglkhglkhglkhglkhglkhglkhg
lkhglkhglkhglkhglkhglkhglkhglkhglkhglkhlkhglkhlkgl klkhlkglkglkhglklkgklhglkg
kljglkglkgklglkglkglkglkglkjglkjlkgklglkglkjgklglk lkglklkglklkglkglkjglklkgl
kjgkljglkglkglkglkglkglkg

Have you figured it out yet? Keep working on it you stupid Hillbilly."



Indefensible really, isn't it?

But he wanks on regardless....


Yet you attempted to above? You are in such a hurry to demean you miss
the point and are demeaning yourself. Laughable.



I bet even you haven't got a clue what that nonsense means...??



No, nobody said anything about you being obliged.



Oh, does that mean I don't get to invoice you then?


Are you comprehension
challenged as well as attention deprived?



**** Nose. You tell me...


The fact is you chose to
attempt to answer the original question. I merely pointed out that to do
so required an opinion, not a simple yes or no.

Note: "its answer requires". Clear enough for you?

Seems you have a bit of a problem addressing the subject matter at hand
and want to resort to silly deflection. No surprise.



No, I'm sorry, my attention wandered - what was that again?


So I do get to invoice you then? Simple yes or no will do - seeing as you
are so fond of yes or no answers...


No, I think not. You have yet to deliver anything of value.



Really? Why are you queueing up for it then? Do you lack the maturity to
ignore something of no value?



Yes, but of everything you've lost I'm sure you miss your manners the
most, no? At least those strangers unlucky enough to encounter you in
public places certainly must miss your manners.



I must be slipping, I thought I was being quite polite - I haven't used the
phrase '******' yet, have I?



I guess....

shrug


Shrug? Is that meant to convey some sort of aloof lack of interest in
the point made? If that is the case then why respond at all?



shrug


You made an observation and an assumption that was in error. I corrected
your erroneous observation. Nobody can prevent a person such as you from
making assumptions, though.



Bummer, ain't it...?? ;-)



Simple enough for you?



Oh yes, you certainly are!


Ah, 'twas a matter of style. Forgive me if I don't always conform, in my
writing in a relaxed and informal forum, to the pedantic and narrow
minded view you seem to hold of what is and what is not correct.

- are you an American?


Is this meant to imply that only Americans are capable of misusing
punctuation?



It was a straightforward question. You read what imlications into you
like...


Are you so incredibly closed minded as to believe this?


Define 'incredibly'...


Have you never heard of James Joyce?



What are you going to do when you leave school?


Ah, so you are simply attempting to stir up **** because you find it to
be fun. I suspected as much.



Bravo!!

(Even thickies like you catch on in the end!! :-)



You've said 'tit' twice now - do you like that word?


Not particularly, no.



I do - it's succinct and comprehesive.



"Leak into UK newgroups"? Is your group new? Is your spelling going to
****e?



Still very weak....


Also, since you want to be the grammar police, what's up with all these
groups of four periods? Are they supposed to be ellipses? That's all
botched up, Keith.

An ellipsis is done like so: " . . . "




Don't fret too much about it - 'tis only a matter of style....



He'll think you are saying he looks like a woman's breast.


There you go again!


In order to "go again" I would have had to have repeated something I'd
said or done previously.

What exactly was that?

(I think you're enjoying this! :-)


Watching you make an idiot and more than a bit of an ass out of yourself



Doesn't 'flow' - brackets would have helped there, I think - no?


while you are trying to be clever yet showing yourself to be nothing more
than an insufferable little pedant and a self-important fool has been
mildly amusing, yes.

However, you are quickly becoming quite boring.



Oh good, does that mean I won't have to deal with another of your pathetic,
pompous, pricky posts then?



snip

You came here whining


I think you're the one doing the *whining*


Howzat again? Whining? Where would that be?



It's all one long whine...



moi beauty... ;-)


Well, the "moi" is misplaced but the other is the first thing you've
gotten even close to correct.



Oops, delusions of pulchritude here I suspect...

:-)



Everyone can't be blessed with such mundane cognomens as yours, Mr.
Garratt.



What do you suggest I change it to, Mr Q...???



Rather conjures up an image of someone being unsuccessfully strangled in
an attic, don't you think, Keith?



Hoo boy...

You tell me, C....



OTOH, if it is his real name, it shows he's got gut and doesn't hide
behind
summay tossy like 'CQ'....


Hide behind? You seem to enjoy attempting insult where none exists. I'm
not hiding behind anything. I'm using, as is the usenet convention, a
"nym" or "nickname" to post. Many folks who regularly read this
newsgroup know exactly who I am, where I live, what I do, etc. Hard to
be hiding when I'm in such plain site.



Site?

I think *you* are the one whose spelling's going to ****e, muchacho.. :-)




****in' terrible ain't I?? ;-)


Perhaps you would like to think so, but no. You are simply a typical
usenet pest with an overblown opinion of yourself.



Your the one who's dribbling **** all over the carpet in ukra - why should
anyone give a toss (I use the word deliberately) what you think??



We can add hypocrite to the
short list of attributes you have demonstrated in your short time in
the
amm group.


Go on then, why not if it makes you happy...?? :-)


Excuse me, but what sort of punctuation is that, exactly? Gone right
down the toilet again, haven't you, Keith? You certainly do provide
ample proof that even the British can butcher the English language, even
while you continue to try and nitpick the usage of others and make broad
and inapt generalizations about people you do not know.

Yes, hypocrite it is then.



Pot/kettle as they say... :-)

(Fekkin' priceless this ole boy!!)



You'll have to excuse me now - me tea's cooled down a bit!


I can't see how that concerns me or causes me to "have to excuse" you.
Perhaps you meant "please excuse me now"



No, I was telling you, not asking your permission.


but we already know you have
****-all for manners, right Keith old boy?



And you have the brass arse to try and pick me up on "Go on then, why not if
it makes you happy...??" :-)

Asitappens, I save my manners for people I like, respect and/or admire -
guess what, dip****....???

LOL!!

:-))




dadiOH October 27th 05 05:37 PM

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Nick Gorham wrote:

Always interesting to see how our colonial cousins see us.

Never mind Keith, you may not have a Jaguar, but at least you know how
to pronounce the name correctly :-).


You mean JAG-u-ar rather than JAG-war? Sorry, incorrect. The *correct*
way is ha-gu-AR.

--
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Joel October 27th 05 05:52 PM

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Nick Gorham wrote:

Never mind Keith, you may not have a Jaguar, but at least you know how
to pronounce the name correctly :-).


At least I don't hallucinate that I can hear someone's voice through
their writing, goofball. The truth about the U.K. for you bumbling,
self-congratulatory BritNerds is quite amusing, really, since your
country is not much less redneck and working class than the U.S. Maybe
you should leave your comfy urban flat once in a while. ****in' geek.

Fortunately, it's only in your own deluded minds that most other U.K.
citizens would support your juvenile anti-Americanism.

--
Joel Crump

"Of course, it is ironic that a media company [Fox News Channel] that
should be seeking to protect the First Amendment is seeking to
undermine it by claiming a monopoly on the phrase 'fair and balanced.'"
- Judge Denny Chin, referring to Fox News accusing Al Franken of
trademark infringement.

CQ October 27th 05 06:25 PM

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In article , Keith G said...

Let me quote you the bit that sparked my response after the thread had been
running for nearly a week:

Snip the village idiot's drunken stupidity which Mr. Garratt feels the
need to repost for some strange reason.

Indefensible really, isn't it?


Ah, okay. So your response was in reality, according to you, aimed at
the one who wrote that. I see.

But then, after I told you that most folks here ignore that idiot, you
said:

"there seem to be plenty of people
in amm who are equally silly enough to respond to him...."

So, in reality, you are amongst those silly enough to respond to the
idiocy you have now quoted above and, in fact, your rude and obnoxious
response and further attempts to insult and demean those you do not know
have now carried on the thread for a number of posts. Is that about
right?

Hypocrite it is, then.

insert clever "takes one to know one" sort of comment here

oh, go on. . . you know you want to

Later in your post you go on to say:

I think *you* are the one whose spelling's going to ****e, muchacho.. :-)


and then . . .

Your the one who's dribbling **** all over the carpet in ukra - why should
anyone give a toss (I use the word deliberately) what you think??


Like so much of what you write this simply underscores what an idiot you
are. While your spell-checker can help you out with the simple parts it
apparently can't do a thing about your inability to distinguish between
"your" and "you're".

As far as dribbling and drooling go, you would be the one who came into
the amm group gratuitously insulting any and all who took offense at your
offensive nature and behavior, something you are apparently helpless to
control.

All cross posted and off-topic in the name of putting a stop to cross
posting of off-topic threads, too.

Remarkably hypocritical, donchathink?

Asitappens, I save my manners for people I like, respect and/or admire -


Ah, okay. So you don't really lack manners; what you lack is grace and
decency? Got it.

guess what, dip****....???


Oh dear. A man whom I have already called a pompous ass, a buffoon, a
rude and arrogant fool as well as an asshole has taken it upon himself to
attempt to now make it clear that he doesn't like me. How odd.

How very strange that he would now think I would give a **** one way or
another how he feels.

No sense in making sense at this point, eh Keith?
--
CQ


Keith G October 27th 05 07:03 PM

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"CQ" wrote in message
news:1130433510.5b5a2b2a03fb832842535c72f62ffc81@b ubbanews...
In article , Keith G said...

Let me quote you the bit that sparked my response after the thread had
been
running for nearly a week:

Snip the village idiot's drunken stupidity which Mr. Garratt feels the
need to repost for some strange reason.



Oh dear, the veneer of respectability and pseudo-sophistication is starting
to slip a bit isn't it...??

Do you mean this:

"
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kljglkglkgklglkglkglkglkglkjglkjlkgklglkglkjgklglk lkglklkglklkglkglkjglklkgl
kjgkljglkglkglkglkglkglkg

Have you figured it out yet? Keep working on it you stupid Hillbilly."



:-)


LOL!!


Indefensible really, isn't it?


Ah, okay. So your response was in reality, according to you, aimed at
the one who wrote that. I see.

But then, after I told you that most folks here ignore that idiot, you
said:

"there seem to be plenty of people
in amm who are equally silly enough to respond to him...."



As they do - where's the lie?



So, in reality, you are amongst those silly enough to respond to the
idiocy you have now quoted above and, in fact, your rude and obnoxious
response and further attempts to insult and demean those you do not know



If I were you I would check my 'colleagues' posts before I made a fatuous
remark like that...


have now carried on the thread for a number of posts. Is that about
right?



Oh dear, more silly questions....

Tell you what sunshine, you have a nice quiet little wank all on your
ownsome, I've gotta go out now.


rest of the silly **** snipped


Any further replies (on and offlist) will have to wait until I get back. -
That's not you Quentin, you're all out of Brownie Points. (I've been more
than patient with you, as any ukranian will tell you.) Next time you think
to come galloping up like amm's very own No. 1 Vigilante and start plucking
at your stubby little dick to try and scare some crusty old git like me, I
suggest you take time out to properly assess your prospective opponent -
this one, this time, you'll be relieved to hear, is all done with teaching
you the finer arts of 'lively Usenet debate'... :-)

LOL!!

:-))




Don M. October 27th 05 10:54 PM

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"Keith G" wrote in message ...

snip

:-)

LOL!!

snip 'lively Usenet debate'... :-)

LOL!!

:-))

============

What's with the nervous laughter in all your posts?


Don



Loco Jones October 28th 05 01:25 AM

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"Keith G" wrote in message
...
"Nick Gorham" wrote...
Always interesting to see how our colonial cousins see us.

Never mind Keith, you may not have a Jaguar, but at least you
know how to pronounce the name correctly :-).


Should do - I've had two of 'em!! :-)


No doubt.
Something like this, I'd wager:
http://tinyurl.com/d5dlt

- Loco -
(Now Playing: Drive - The Cars)



audiohead October 28th 05 03:01 AM

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dadiOH wrote:
audiohead wrote:
dadiOH wrote:
You really should spend a little time trying to learn the terms and
what is actually happening when you rip/encode/"play"-decode. I
don't think an understanding of same is beyond even your
demonstrated, meager intelligence.


That says a lot from someone who doesn't even know that files can be
edited in Nero.


Your memory is worse than your "advice".


You must really enjoy making a fool out of yourself. Are all UK bloats
as ignoble as you or are you just one of those special cases? You
lost this one a long time ago. I guess your UK Ego bruises easier than
most of your other fellow bloats. Too bad.

You advised someone to edit MP3s using the Nero WAVE editor. I pointed
out that the Nero WAVE editor doesn't edit MP3s, it edits waves.


Audio files, WAV and MP3 alike, are edited in "Nero Wave Editor," which
is only a part of an entire product suite. Obviously, you lied about
using Nero and are still trying to redeem yourself. This is really
pathetic. I would have expected more from a UK bloat. You should be
ashamed of yourself for your fellow compatriots!!

Like any other WAVE editor. Any WAVE editor first decodes the MP3 to WAVE
then re-encodes that WAVE to MP3 when one has finished editing.


You don't "re-encode" a WAV to MP3. It's either decode a MP3 or encode
to MP3. Besides this has nothing to do with the OP. Perhaps you need
to study your own so called informative website more often, and try to
learn something instead of spouting pure gibberish.


Since the OP was wanting to chop off silence a wave editor was a poor choice
as there are programs that can do it directly to the MP3 without the
necessity of decoding/encoding.



The OP was only trying to split tracks. Go back to the OP and look at
it again...and again....and again. You really have become senile.


Try to comprehend the forgoing, it is a simple concept. Read it
multiple times as needed to understand.


Learn from you own advice. This is especially true for "Inattentive
Types" like you. Apparently, re-reading hasn't and likely won't work.


You really need to get away from this forum once in awhile and actually
have a life. I'm actually starting to feel sorry for you. Seriously,
when's the last time you even got laid?


--
daddickiOH



Nick Gorham October 28th 05 06:44 AM

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Joel wrote:
Nick Gorham wrote:


Never mind Keith, you may not have a Jaguar, but at least you know how
to pronounce the name correctly :-).



At least I don't hallucinate that I can hear someone's voice through
their writing, goofball. The truth about the U.K. for you bumbling,
self-congratulatory BritNerds is quite amusing, really, since your
country is not much less redneck and working class than the U.S. Maybe
you should leave your comfy urban flat once in a while. ****in' geek.


And I don't assume that I can guess where someone lives through their
posting either.


Fortunately, it's only in your own deluded minds that most other U.K.
citizens would support your juvenile anti-Americanism.


Ahh, and you know what "most other" UK *subjects* believe, must be a
hell of a internet connection you have there.

--
Nick

dadiOH October 28th 05 12:12 PM

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audiohead wrote:

You must really enjoy making a fool out of yourself. Are all UK
bloats as ignoble as you or are you just one of those special cases?
You lost this one a long time ago. I guess your UK Ego bruises
easier than most of your other fellow bloats. Too bad.


Speaking of making a fool of oneself...

I was born in Indiana, lived most of my life in Honolulu, then Veracruz,
Mexico, then Florida.

I have been all over the Pacific basin, North/Central/South America and
the Carribean but I have never set foot in either England or the UK.
_____________________

You advised someone to edit MP3s using the Nero WAVE editor. I
pointed out that the Nero WAVE editor doesn't edit MP3s, it edits
waves.


Audio files, WAV and MP3 alike, are edited in "Nero Wave Editor,"


And before the ****ing MP3s are edited in the WAVE editor they are
decoded to *wave*, you freakin', dense idiot.
_________________

which is only a part of an entire product suite. Obviously, you
lied about using Nero and are still trying to redeem yourself. This
is really pathetic.



Obviously, you don't have a clue about the relationship between MP3s and
waves. And you are too stupid to learn.

____________________

Like any other WAVE editor. Any WAVE editor first decodes the MP3
to WAVE then re-encodes that WAVE to MP3 when one has finished
editing.


You don't "re-encode" a WAV to MP3. It's either decode a MP3 or

encode
to MP3.


See? I told you...too stupid to learn.

____________________

Since the OP was wanting to chop off silence a wave editor was a
poor choice as there are programs that can do it directly to the MP3
without the necessity of decoding/encoding.



The OP was only trying to split tracks. .


No matter, a wave editor wasn't the best choice for what he needed.
Better to use something that would do it directly to the MP3 rather than
something that would decode it to wave then re-encode to MP3. Too
stupid to learn...


--
dadiOH
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