Marc Baumann wrote:
hello!
i'd like to bring the following devices in one installation, need
however help for it:
dvd player, vhs player, sat receiver and fm tuner will supply the
signals. i don't want to predefine a brand here but would prefer all
devices from the same one.
the output should happen on 3 groups at the same time with seperate and
independant volume control:
group 1: TV (no audio) and 5.1 surround system
group 2: 6 car loudspeakers in wall mounted
group 3: TV in another room (audio and video signal)
for the output devices applies the same as for the signal giving
devices.

any ideas on how i should do the installation (a/v receiver plus
seperate amplifier?) and which equipment can be used?

The first thing I'll say is that I've never done anything like the
above. Is this for a home? A bar or restaurant? Where do you need this
system?

You might want to find a local professional who specializes in
multiroom systems, has done this before, and can give you references
and a demonstration.

I'll add that some makers (such as Bose) sell AV equipment that's
designed to be extended into several different rooms or "zones." So you
may need to look for gear like that. I think some of the fancier AV
receivers may allow connections to several different zones. I think
some of the fancier Denon, Onkyo, Yamaha, or other AV receivers might
be useful.

If possible, you might want to stick within one brand, at least for the
electronics (not necessary to stick with one speaker brand). For
example, big brands such as JVC (with AV Compu Link), Sony (with
S-Link), Pioneer, Denon, Onkyo, and others offer connectiing systems
within each brand that will allow the connected gear to "talk" to each
other. For example, with JVC gear with JVC's AV Compu Link feature, if
you put a DVD or a VHS tape into a JVC player, all the connected JVC
gear will "talk" to the other JVC gear and go to all the correct
settings, power up the JVC TV, set the JVC receiver correctly, etc. But
I don't know if that will work across several zones.

I think you'll need to start off with one big AV receiver that has
video outputs and line-level audio outputs. Then you could connect your
DVD, VHS, and satellite hardware to that receiver. (The receiver will
have an FM tuner).

Next, from the big AV receiver, you could connect that downstream to:

group 2: 6 car loudspeakers in wall mounted (Powered by an amp or
receiver connected to the big AV receiver.)

and

group 3: TV in another room (audio and video signal)

But I've never done this, so I suggest you bring in an experienced
professional.

Also try asking in:

alt.home-theater.misc

And search the web and newsgroups via Google.com and other search tools
to look for advice.

Maybe somebody's written a book on this?

thanks and regards,
marc

Neilnewsgroup is on the right lines with a multroom set-up, but the
sort of switching and control functionality that Marc wants won't come
cheap.

Since there's no budget specified, and Marc is talking about using car
speakers instead of proper inwall speakers, then I'm guessing there's
not going to be a lot of cash flying around. Getting signals to the
different zones is going to be pretty easy. The hard bit is how you
control the sources when they're in another room in the house. You then
have to think about who has priority, The last thing you need is to be
recording off Sky and someone in a different zone changes the channel.

Marc, there are too many unknowns here for anyone to give you a
sensible answer. If you are looking at anything less that £5K for the
kit then my advice would be buy three separate systems.