On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:23:02 GMT, "Trevor Wilson"
wrote:

anyone can easily understand that
comparing 12AWG cable to 24 AWG over long runs is not a reasonable
test. OTOH, I have already compared fifteen feet of Naim NACA5,
probably the most inductive speaker cable you can buy, to an ultra-low
inductance design into my own 3-ohm speakers. There was a *measured*
difference of more than 1dB at 20kHz, but no *audible* difference
whatever.

You're just whining and crying for no apparent reason. What, do *you*
think that Kimber 'Black Pearl' has any value ina domestic hi-fi
system? If so, why?

**I can't find Black Pearl amongst their speaker cable listing. Is it a very
old, or a very new product? What is the inductance of the cable?

It's been around for 4 or 5 years, costs £1,000 a foot (yes, a grand a
foot!), and has very low inductance. If you're about to suggest that
fifty feet of it would sound different from fifty feet of 12 AWG
zipcord when driving Quads, I wouldn't necessairily argue - but that's
hardly the point.

As often noted, any fool can come up with an unrealistic cable to
'cheat' the test, which is why the level-matching requrement exists.
This isn't about EE 101, it's about the bull**** claims of Kimber,
Transparent, Cardas, MIT et al.

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Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
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On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:23:02 GMT, "Trevor Wilson"
wrote:

anyone can easily understand that
comparing 12AWG cable to 24 AWG over long runs is not a reasonable
test. OTOH, I have already compared fifteen feet of Naim NACA5,
probably the most inductive speaker cable you can buy, to an ultra-low
inductance design into my own 3-ohm speakers. There was a *measured*
difference of more than 1dB at 20kHz, but no *audible* difference
whatever.

You're just whining and crying for no apparent reason. What, do *you*
think that Kimber 'Black Pearl' has any value ina domestic hi-fi
system? If so, why?

**I can't find Black Pearl amongst their speaker cable listing. Is it a
very
old, or a very new product? What is the inductance of the cable?

It's been around for 4 or 5 years, costs £1,000 a foot (yes, a grand a
foot!), and has very low inductance.

**Like I said: I can't find it anywhere in their listing in their site, so I
can't comment further. For a 1,000 Squid a foot, it would seem very
difficult to justify though. However, that is not the issue.

If you're about to suggest that
fifty feet of it would sound different from fifty feet of 12 AWG
zipcord when driving Quads, I wouldn't necessairily argue - but that's
hardly the point.

**Well, yes, it is the point. Speaker cables DO sound different, depending
on the particular system. This fact goes a long way to explaining why many
people hear differences in speaker cables.


As often noted, any fool can come up with an unrealistic cable to
'cheat' the test, which is why the level-matching requrement exists.
This isn't about EE 101, it's about the bull**** claims of Kimber,
Transparent, Cardas, MIT et al.

**T'ain't cheating. It is proving that speaker cables DO sound different,
under certain circumstances.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au