Arny Krueger wrote:
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Dear Mr. Slick, you'll never convince our ABX inventor that his "test"
is meaningless in the real world of millions of individual audio
consumers of different age, gender, musical preferences (from car-boom
superwoofer to chamber music), experience and training.

Good think. Reality really bites for dreamers like Art.

He "removes sighted bias"- . In the process he introduces a supposedly
universally
applicable method

"Universally applicable method"??? Where did I say that? Oh, I didn't - but
Mirabel did.

which he never bothered to properly research

Lofty-sounding words, but totally empty since they lack even a hint of how
that might be properly done.

and validate in the proper scientific experimental way, the glory of
Western science, described centuries ago by such as Roger Bacon.

Lofty-sounding words, but totally empty since they lack even a hint of how
that might be properly done.

And
we know why- it could never be validated because it is an inappropriate
caricature of the legitimate medical therapy research method of DBT.

IOW, Mirabel is exactly guilty of what he falsly accuses me of, since
there's no evidence that he has any support for these claims at all.


DBT works in medicine because the effects of proposed treatment or lack
of effect can be *seen* and *measured*.

Oh, I get it - amplifiers and their technical performance cannot be seen or
heard.LOL!

The ABX/DBT routines depend on yes/no questionnaire.

Mirabel finally gets his first fact right. Huzzah!

Since a few will always have more discernment
than most the outcome is always bound to be "I hear no difference"-
null, negative.

Absolutely and totally untrue.

Krueger would not have an inkling of what we're talking about.

I'm doing a pretty fair job of deconstructing it, regardless! ;-)

He said once that "prolonged listening is a waste of time".

Under some circumstances it is. Sue me for knowing when it is, and when it
isn't.

His "music" is "castanets",

Actually, a wide range of music and musical sounds, depending on what works
best for hearing differences.

FM station on his car radio

Shows how out-to-lunch and inobservant Mirabel is. Hint: most of what I
listen to in my car is recordings of live perforamnces that I recorded.

and the wallpaper noise in his local supermarket.

wallpaper noise????

Is Mirabel talking about "elevator music"??? Here's a much-needed hint
Mirabel - my supermarket has only one floor a ground floor and therefore
there is no elevator! ;-)

And he is not alone.

Mirabel ought to educate Middius who keeps saying that I have a lonely life.
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I said:
Dear Mr. Slick, you'll never convince our ABX inventor that his "test"
is meaningless in the real world of millions of individual audio
consumers of different age, gender, musical preferences (from car-boom superwoofer to chamber music), experience and .training.

Arny answered:
""Good think. Reality really bites for dreamers like Art.

He "removes sighted bias"- . In the process he introduces a supposedly universally applicable method

""Universally applicable method"??? Where did I say that? Oh, I
didn't - but Mirabel did.