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Hello all,

I thinking of venturing into the world of hi-fi seperates and I'm
starting by looking for an amplifier. I don't have a great budget for
this, around £150, therefore I have narrowed my choice down to the
following:

Cambridge Audio AZUR 340A
Sony TA-FE370
Marantz PM4001

I can find a bit on the net about the CA amp but not much about the
others.

So what I was wondering is if there is much to choose from these
models, or at this price range am I likely to find that they are all
much of a muchness?

Thanks in advance and sorry if this sort of question has been asked a
million times before.


Well, What HiFi are currently going mad over the Cambridge Azur 340A ...

runs out door grabbing coat ...


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Cessna172

"Cessna172" wrote in message
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wrote in news:1139320427.344297.223060
@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

Hello all,

I thinking of venturing into the world of hi-fi seperates and I'm
starting by looking for an amplifier. I don't have a great budget for
this, around £150, therefore I have narrowed my choice down to the
following:

Cambridge Audio AZUR 340A
Sony TA-FE370
Marantz PM4001

I can find a bit on the net about the CA amp but not much about the
others.

So what I was wondering is if there is much to choose from these
models, or at this price range am I likely to find that they are all
much of a muchness?

Thanks in advance and sorry if this sort of question has been asked a
million times before.


Well, What HiFi are currently going mad over the Cambridge Azur 340A ...

runs out door grabbing coat ...


--
Cessna172

The cynic in me says that's a good enough reason to avoid it...........

S

On 7 Feb 2006 05:53:47 -0800, wrote:

Hello all,

I thinking of venturing into the world of hi-fi seperates and I'm
starting by looking for an amplifier. I don't have a great budget for
this, around £150, therefore I have narrowed my choice down to the
following:

Cambridge Audio AZUR 340A
Sony TA-FE370
Marantz PM4001

I can find a bit on the net about the CA amp but not much about the
others.

So what I was wondering is if there is much to choose from these
models, or at this price range am I likely to find that they are all
much of a muchness?

Thanks in advance and sorry if this sort of question has been asked a
million times before.

This is definitely in a budget area where corners get cut in power
amplifiers, and I suspect that the Cambridge unit will provide audibly
superior performance - contrary to what many people *claim* the
'objectivists' say.................
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

On 7 Feb 2006 05:53:47 -0800, wrote:


Hello all,

I thinking of venturing into the world of hi-fi seperates and I'm
starting by looking for an amplifier. I don't have a great budget for
this, around £150, therefore I have narrowed my choice down to the
following:

Cambridge Audio AZUR 340A
Sony TA-FE370
Marantz PM4001

I can find a bit on the net about the CA amp but not much about the
others.

So what I was wondering is if there is much to choose from these
models, or at this price range am I likely to find that they are all
much of a muchness?

Thanks in advance and sorry if this sort of question has been asked a
million times before.


This is definitely in a budget area where corners get cut in power
amplifiers, and I suspect that the Cambridge unit will provide audibly
superior performance - contrary to what many people *claim* the
'objectivists' say.................

Mr. Pinkerton on many occasions you have claimed that a 200 euro yamaha
*receiver* would sound the same as any high-end pre-power combo, and you
have added that, quote: "provided that the high end gear are up to the
task" !!

You are a lying, low-life prick, mr pinkerton.

"Fella" wrote in message


Mr. Pinkerton on many occasions you have claimed that a
200 euro yamaha *receiver* would sound the same as any
high-end pre-power combo, and you have added that, quote:
"provided that the high end gear are up to the task" !!

You are a lying, low-life prick, mr pinkerton.

Classic case of shooting the messenger.

On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 11:34:43 +0200, Fella wrote:

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

On 7 Feb 2006 05:53:47 -0800, wrote:


Hello all,

I thinking of venturing into the world of hi-fi seperates and I'm
starting by looking for an amplifier. I don't have a great budget for
this, around £150, therefore I have narrowed my choice down to the
following:

Cambridge Audio AZUR 340A
Sony TA-FE370
Marantz PM4001

I can find a bit on the net about the CA amp but not much about the
others.

So what I was wondering is if there is much to choose from these
models, or at this price range am I likely to find that they are all
much of a muchness?

Thanks in advance and sorry if this sort of question has been asked a
million times before.


This is definitely in a budget area where corners get cut in power
amplifiers, and I suspect that the Cambridge unit will provide audibly
superior performance - contrary to what many people *claim* the
'objectivists' say.................

Mr. Pinkerton on many occasions you have claimed that a 200 euro yamaha
*receiver* would sound the same as any high-end pre-power combo, and you
have added that, quote: "provided that the high end gear are up to the
task" !!

You are a lying, low-life prick, mr pinkerton.

Actually, the lying low-life prick would be you - as usual. I said no
such thing. What I certainly *did* say was that a 100-watt Yamaha
*amplifier* (AX-570 at that time) was indistiguishable from a Krell on
most programme. Into the particularly difficult load of Apogee Duetta
speakers, a very slight trace of brightness was noted in treble-heavy
material such as acoustic jazz with lots of cymbal work.

It's also true that a lot of so-called 'high-end' gear is so poorly
designed as to be effectively broken, despite astronomic price tags.
SET amplifiers in general, and the Audio Note and YBA CD players in
particular, come to mind.

Now, did you actually have a point, aside from the one on top of your
head?
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 11:34:43 +0200, Fella wrote:


Stewart Pinkerton wrote:


On 7 Feb 2006 05:53:47 -0800, wrote:



Hello all,

I thinking of venturing into the world of hi-fi seperates and I'm
starting by looking for an amplifier. I don't have a great budget for
this, around £150, therefore I have narrowed my choice down to the
following:

Cambridge Audio AZUR 340A
Sony TA-FE370
Marantz PM4001

I can find a bit on the net about the CA amp but not much about the
others.

So what I was wondering is if there is much to choose from these
models, or at this price range am I likely to find that they are all
much of a muchness?

Thanks in advance and sorry if this sort of question has been asked a
million times before.


This is definitely in a budget area where corners get cut in power
amplifiers, and I suspect that the Cambridge unit will provide audibly
superior performance - contrary to what many people *claim* the
'objectivists' say.................

Mr. Pinkerton on many occasions you have claimed that a 200 euro yamaha
*receiver* would sound the same as any high-end pre-power combo, and you
have added that, quote: "provided that the high end gear are up to the
task" !!

You are a lying, low-life prick, mr pinkerton.


Actually, the lying low-life prick would be you - as usual. I said no
such thing.

Hmmm.... I wonder who was the lying low life piece of **** that said
these things then:

"That's the fun part of it. Mostly, they *do* sound the same. It takes
a truly outrageously priced 'high end' amp to really **** up the
sound! "

"Advances in active devices and have allowed mid-price amplifiers to
achieve the same standard for much less manufacturing cost. In other
words, in sonic terms, amplifiers have not got better, just cheaper."

On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:25:51 +0200, Fella wrote:

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 11:34:43 +0200, Fella wrote:

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

On 7 Feb 2006 05:53:47 -0800, wrote:

Hello all,

I thinking of venturing into the world of hi-fi seperates and I'm
starting by looking for an amplifier. I don't have a great budget for
this, around £150, therefore I have narrowed my choice down to the
following:

Cambridge Audio AZUR 340A
Sony TA-FE370
Marantz PM4001

I can find a bit on the net about the CA amp but not much about the
others.

So what I was wondering is if there is much to choose from these
models, or at this price range am I likely to find that they are all
much of a muchness?

Thanks in advance and sorry if this sort of question has been asked a
million times before.


This is definitely in a budget area where corners get cut in power
amplifiers, and I suspect that the Cambridge unit will provide audibly
superior performance - contrary to what many people *claim* the
'objectivists' say.................

Mr. Pinkerton on many occasions you have claimed that a 200 euro yamaha
*receiver* would sound the same as any high-end pre-power combo, and you
have added that, quote: "provided that the high end gear are up to the
task" !!

You are a lying, low-life prick, mr pinkerton.

Actually, the lying low-life prick would be you - as usual. I said no
such thing.

Hmmm.... I wonder who was the lying low life piece of **** that said
these things then:

"That's the fun part of it. Mostly, they *do* sound the same. It takes
a truly outrageously priced 'high end' amp to really **** up the
sound! "

That was no 'lying low life piece of ****', that was me - and it
reinforces my own reply to your post above, rather than your gross
exaggerration of what I actually said.

"Advances in active devices and have allowed mid-price amplifiers to
achieve the same standard for much less manufacturing cost. In other
words, in sonic terms, amplifiers have not got better, just cheaper."

That's also correct, and nowhere does it mention a 200 Euro Yamaha
receiver. Note also that £150 is not 'mid-price', that would be more
in the £250-750 range, where sonic transparency up to realistic SPLs
is certainly achievable into the vast majority of speakers. As I also
noted, you need to spend at least ten times that to get something
'high end' that *really* screws up the sound, so that it can be
*different* from the genuinely neutral mainstream stuff.

As ever, Mr Tio, you're just a whining and lying litle creep, with no
real argument.

--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

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Fella wrote:
Mr. Pinkerton on many occasions you have claimed that a 200 euro yamaha
*receiver* would sound the same as any high-end pre-power combo, and you
have added that, quote: "provided that the high end gear are up to the
^^^
task" !!

Are you suggesting Mr P is illiterate?

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*And don't start a sentence with a conjunction *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Pinkerton:
I suspect that the Cambridge unit will provide audibly
superior performance

You know quite well that this is impossible - all amplifiers sound the
same. Or is it faith-based presumption?