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The Pinkerton Pathology, part 1: beyond anti-social tendency into disease



 
 
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Old February 21st 06, 12:06 AM posted to uk.rec.audio,rec.audio.opinion,rec.audio.tubes
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Default A public apology to Andre Jute.


wrote in message
oups.com...
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/K...0T68MZ417A.jpg

Right-click on the image.

Funny thing. The "properties" show that this image was both created and
modified on February 18, 2006. No images (so far) or links to images
with a date prior to the 18th of this month. Just words.

Mr. McCoy does pride himself on his words....

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

Don't the "properties", derived as a right click off of any web based photo,
show the creation and mod dates to be today's date ?

Arfa


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Old February 21st 06, 12:12 AM posted to uk.rec.audio,rec.audio.opinion,rec.audio.tubes
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Default A public apology to Andre Jute.

The "MZamp.jpg" picture has been on my web pages since January 1, 2004.

Please kindly show how one gets from your home page to the link noted.

Does look a lot like he lies, and you swear to it.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

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Old February 21st 06, 01:22 AM posted to uk.rec.audio,rec.audio.opinion,rec.audio.tubes
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Default The Pinkerton Pathology, part 1: beyond anti-social tendency into disease

Whoops.... I forgot to note that your soldering also appeared to be
quite elegant as I remember, with no lethal voltages exposed above the
chassis. Not the mare's nest of miscellaneous higglety-pigglety that
Mr. McCoy displays in his Magnum Opus.

Just an observation.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

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Old February 21st 06, 04:23 AM posted to uk.rec.audio,rec.audio.opinion,rec.audio.tubes
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Default Jute lies like a cheap rug



Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

Jute, .............you are such a proven pathological liar
that if you posted that grass is green, we'd have to look out of the
window to check.


And he'd reserve his right to change his position to the " grass is blue " too without as much as a blush.

Graham

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Old February 21st 06, 04:57 AM posted to uk.rec.audio,rec.audio.opinion,rec.audio.tubes
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Default The Pinkerton Pathology, part 1: beyond anti-social tendency into disease

In article .com,
" wrote:

John:

As I remember, you isolated the input and the output from the mains
power via appropriate transformers. Why would I think this is
dangerous?


Well for one it might be dangerous if the transformers aren't as you say
"appropriate". That is my one misgiving, that the input transformer
really isn't designed for this job. But this was a junk box effort, which
was good enough satisfy me and to prove that "Danger Dave" didn't know
what he was talking about when he made his original statement that this
sort of amplifier couldn't be built without serious hum. The hum was
better than 80 dB below 1 Watt out, which is better than a good number of
commercial tube amplifiers with power transformers.

But that was not where I was going in my previous post, what I was
wondering about was if you were around "rec.audio.tubes" at the time of
the "Power Amplifier Without Power Transformer" flame wars? I hadn't
checked Google before posting and now that I have checked I am not sure
what to make of the results. It appears that you made a number of posts
to "rec.audio.tubes" in late 1997 and early 1998, but none after March
1998, so it is not clear if you weren't following the group at the time,
or if you were reading but not posting to the group?

Regards,

John Byrns


Surf my web pages at, http://users.rcn.com/jbyrns/
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Old February 21st 06, 04:58 AM posted to uk.rec.audio,rec.audio.opinion,rec.audio.tubes
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Default The Pinkerton Pathology, part 1: beyond anti-social tendency into disease

In article .com,
" wrote:

Whoops.... I forgot to note that your soldering also appeared to be
quite elegant as I remember, with no lethal voltages exposed above the
chassis. Not the mare's nest of miscellaneous higglety-pigglety that
Mr. McCoy displays in his Magnum Opus.

Just an observation.


I wouldn't call the wiring a "mare's nest", and in any case we may be
jumping to invalid conclusions about "lethal voltages exposed above the
chassis." If the amplifier in question was intended purely as a
breadboard to be used to develop the circuits, then it is perfectly normal
and reasonable for there to be "lethal voltages exposed above the
chassis." But I suspect that the real situation here is somewhat
different. It looks to me like Andre has built the amplifier circuits on
a metal panel which ultimately forms one side, or the top, of an enclosure
which isolates the lethal voltages from contact with stray human or animal
body parts. I am only guessing at this, perhaps Andre could comment on my
speculation.


Regards,

John Byrns


Surf my web pages at, http://users.rcn.com/jbyrns/
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Old February 21st 06, 05:00 AM posted to uk.rec.audio,rec.audio.opinion,rec.audio.tubes
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Default A public apology to Andre Jute.

In article .com,
" wrote:

The "MZamp.jpg" picture has been on my web pages since January 1, 2004.


Please kindly show how one gets from your home page to the link noted.

Does look a lot like he lies, and you swear to it.


I am not sure that I understand your question, there is no link to Andre's
pictures from my home page, you must know they are there and enter the
direct URL that Andre provided. If it would somehow help I could
temporarily modify the HTML for my home page to include references to
Andre's pictures, although it is not obvious to me how that would help
given that the URL's have been posted. I haven't done it, but the issue
might be somewhat settled by checking the Google archives of
"rec.audio.tubes" around January 1, 2004, as I suspect there are
references to these pictures and the URL's on my web pages where they are
located.


Regards,

John Byrns


Surf my web pages at, http://users.rcn.com/jbyrns/
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Old February 21st 06, 06:29 AM posted to uk.rec.audio,rec.audio.opinion,rec.audio.tubes
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Default A public apology to Andre Jute.

On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 00:00:50 -0600, (John Byrns) wrote:

In article .com,
" wrote:

The "MZamp.jpg" picture has been on my web pages since January 1, 2004.


Please kindly show how one gets from your home page to the link noted.

Does look a lot like he lies, and you swear to it.


I am not sure that I understand your question, there is no link to Andre's
pictures from my home page, you must know they are there and enter the
direct URL that Andre provided. If it would somehow help I could
temporarily modify the HTML for my home page to include references to
Andre's pictures, although it is not obvious to me how that would help
given that the URL's have been posted. I haven't done it, but the issue
might be somewhat settled by checking the Google archives of
"rec.audio.tubes" around January 1, 2004, as I suspect there are
references to these pictures and the URL's on my web pages where they are
located.


Fair enough, I'll take your word on *that* picture having been around
for a while, but please note that this is not the photograph in
question, since it is *not* a photo of a KISS amp, just of what Jute
himself describes as a 'development mule for the KISS driver stage'. I
already acknowledged the existence of *that* amplifier around April
last year. The KISS photo mysteriously appeared last week out of thin
air, and has never been seen before. It's also not clear that the KISS
portrayed is a working amplifier.

Basically, Jute tells so many obvious and ludicrous lies that his
credibility is totally shot. Having been called on KISS as vapourware
for more than a year, he *now* claims that it's been around for years?
I don't think so........
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering
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Old February 21st 06, 10:45 AM posted to uk.rec.audio,rec.audio.opinion,rec.audio.tubes
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Default The Pinkerton Pathology, part 1: beyond anti-social tendency into disease

Reading, but not posting.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

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Old February 21st 06, 11:35 AM posted to uk.rec.audio,rec.audio.opinion,rec.audio.tubes
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Default The Pinkerton Pathology, part 1: beyond anti-social tendency into disease

But this was a junk box effort, which
was good enough satisfy me and to prove that "Danger Dave" didn't know
what he was talking about when he made his original statement that this
sort of amplifier couldn't be built without serious hum. The hum was
better than 80 dB below 1 Watt out, which is better than a good number of
commercial tube amplifiers with power transformers.


Well, Dayuumm... One of the things being a 'repair person' teaches is
that hum-free (very low hum) circuits without mains transformers and
without massive electronics are pretty common, pretty simple and can be
pretty good performers. And the (HFV)L6 series of tubes are
particularly suited to that use. Add such niceties as not using the
chassis as the common rail, input and output transformers and they are
about as safe as anything else out there of a similar general class,
certainly more-so than any AA5.

As to the input transformer being 'designed for the job', that is a
moving target. Imagine the most catastrophic cascade-failure on the
system that would _NOT_ blow the fuse, how much voltage & current that
would deliver to the secondary side of that transformer, and whether it
could take it or not without shorting to the case or to the primary
side. I have not examined your schematic in detail (nor do I know the
specifications to the transformers)... I seem to remember a hand-drawn
sketch. In any case, you are not intending to put this thing into
production, nor are you (apparently) holding it up as an avatar of
all-things-amplifier.

Keep in mind, John, that no one here is 'picking' on Mr. McCoy. Were he
to confine himself to 'being useful' as he seems to believe is the
purpose of other people's lives (at least), he would be mostly welcome
and mostly treated with the respect he deserves. However, he insists in
creating his useless little alliterative fantasies, mostly out of whole
cloth, and is then surprised when he is not so welcome and also treated
with exactly the respect he deserves. With due respect, his magnum-opus
looks like a cook-book recipe assembled with very limited skills under
marginal conditions and no real understanding of the expected results.
For all his pontificating, one would expect Mr. McCoy to be at a
minimum a better mechanic. See, there is something to be said for
'craft'. It makes understanding what one has done infinitely easier, it
sure does help prevent mistakes during the process, and it helps anyone
confronted with the work in the future. It falls back to the
carpenter's motto: Measure twice, cut once. There may never be quite
enough time to do it right... until one is faced with the need to do it
over. Platitudes, perhaps. But they got that way for clear reasons.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

 




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