The Pinkerton Pathology, part 1: beyond anti-social tendency into disease
 

Here's a bit of usenet history that now has been running more than a
year:

Stewart Pinkerton claims that Andre Jute didn't build an amp.

Andre Jute repeatedly tells PinkoStinko the amp is built.

Still the scumball PinkoStinko calls Andre Jute a liar.

Andre Jute directs PinkoStinko to a photograph of the amp.
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg

PinkoStinko refuses to accept the proof, claiming, "No such proof has
been offered, just another of your smoke and mirror deceptions."

In his own post, only a few lines below PinkoStinko's mindless denial
of reality and truth, we find the URL for the photograph of the amp
which PinkoStinko claims has not been built:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg

This stubborn, heated denial is all of a piece with what I have come to
think of as the Pinkerton Pathology, in which truth bears no relation
to the facts, anyone who tells Pinkerton the truth is abused as a liar
(another blatant example is in the quoted text below), anyone who holds
Pinkerton to his own statements is abused as liar, anyone who proves
from Pinkerton's own mouth that yesterday (or sometimes only minutes
ago) he said the opposite of what he now claims is abused as a liar.

Such a disconnection from objective reality is symptomatic of
psychopathology, an extreme form of the disassociation from congenial
society that Andy Evans already demonstrated goes with Pinkerton's
observable personality type.

Such a rejection of objective reality is well beyond jokes about
phrenology; it is very likely a disease and should be treated.

It of course also makes any opinion PinkoStinko offers on the objective
business of audio evaluation perfectly untrustworthy, as PinkoStinko
practises zero objectivity. Perhaps, in a moment of lucidity
PinkoStinko realized that he is lost to objectivity, which might
account for the squirming, hangdog way he tried to join me in the KISS
300B project on RAT late in 2004.

Andre Jute

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
On 16 Feb 2006 03:08:50 -0800, "Andre Jute" wrote:

Anyone with a shred decency, publicly faced with photographic proof
that for over a year he has falsely been calling someone a liar, would
apologize. Stewart Pinkerton instead launches into further unproven,
unprovable allegations. Stewart Pinkerton is lying scum beyond
redemption.

No such proof has been offered, just another of your smoke and mirror
deceptions.

Pinkerton's despicable "designs" don't get built.

Sure they do - just not KISASS.

He twisted this way
and that way as he tried not to publish a schematic for his wretched
KISASS "design", and -- seeing the way its incompetence was savaged
merely from the description -- who can blame him?

More lies from Jute - but what else can one expect?

My designs get built. And are used and enjoyed. Here for your enjoyment
is The KISS Amp 300B "Ultrafi" proto again, the one the lying scumbag
Pinkerton claims was never built:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg

So when will you be building your KISASS, Pinkerton? Go on, sport, we
can do with a good laugh.

I won't be. Why would I? It's nearly as crippled as KISS.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

The Pinkerton Pathology, part 1: beyond anti-social tendency into disease
 

Stewart Pinkerton claims that Andre Jute didn't build an amp.

Mr. McCoy:

With all due respect.

Given your pontificating on all things Tubes ('scuse, Valves), Amps &
SET. Given your opining on the relative qualities of capacitors, tubes
(there I go again, VALVES), circuits, "fast" and "slow" amps and
whatever else.... If

http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg

is your offering for "having built" an amp, Stewart may be wrong in the
absolute, but he sure is correct in application. Either that is a
breadboard experiment in concept testing, or it is Dr.
VonFrankenstein's worst nightmare. Can you not afford decent tools?
Interconnect wire? Have you ever soldered before? Do you understand the
concept of "looming" wire? Twisting for shielding? And that is at a
glance without seeing the pretzel from all sides. I would be ashamed to
display that work if it were mine.

So, if you really want to put Mr. Pinkerton's assertions away for
good-and-all, show us an amp that you built _and_ is *finished* and
working.

Oh, one last question. Define "Build". Does it mean 'assemble from a
prepared list of parts to someone else's circuit design'? Or does it
mean designed-from-scratch? If the former, then Stewart is correct in
his assertions even with your picture. If the latter, how does it work?
Be honest now. And, it is enough that you like it, no need to
exaggerate.

You did not have to start this thread, I am sure that your acolytes
believe whatever you might suggest anyway. The skeptics amongst us only
groan at this so-called evidence and those of us with some
fellow-feeling remaining towards you just worry that you are
well-and-truly losing it.

I really did think you had finally gotten your medication adjusted
properly when you made your recent post on film caps. Not only was what
you had to say true, but even reasonably accurate for a non-tech. But
this thread... YIKES... right back off the sand-bar and out of your
depth.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

The Pinkerton Pathology, part 1: beyond anti-social tendency into disease
 

" said:

Mr. McCoy:

With all due respect.

Given your pontificating on all things Tubes ('scuse, Valves), Amps &
SET. Given your opining on the relative qualities of capacitors, tubes
(there I go again, VALVES), circuits, "fast" and "slow" amps and
whatever else.... If

http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg

is your offering for "having built" an amp, Stewart may be wrong in the
absolute, but he sure is correct in application. Either that is a
breadboard experiment in concept testing, or it is Dr.
VonFrankenstein's worst nightmare. Can you not afford decent tools?
Interconnect wire? Have you ever soldered before? Do you understand the
concept of "looming" wire? Twisting for shielding? And that is at a
glance without seeing the pretzel from all sides. I would be ashamed to
display that work if it were mine.


Are you sure you're not jealous because Andre can afford real Western
Electric 300Bs (or just the boxes thereof)? ;-)

--

- Never argue with idiots, they drag you down their level and beat you with experience. -

The Pinkerton Pathology, part 1: beyond anti-social tendency into disease
 

Are you sure you're not jealous because Andre can afford real Western
Electric 300Bs (or just the boxes thereof)? ;-)

Pennsylvania is an interesting state in an intersesting country as it
applies to electronics.

Once, some 8 years ago, or so, my wife and I were driving back from our
summer house and passed through Tamaqua, PA. We passed a garage-sale,
the seller being a former WE tech. One box-lot followed me home for $5
consisting of two WE300b, two RCA 2A3, and two RCA 10. Such is life.

They are long gone... given to friends who had actual vintage equipment
that actually used them. And who still have them.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

The Pinkerton Pathology, part 1: beyond anti-social tendency into disease
 

Sander deWaal wrote:
" said:

Mr. McCoy:

(snip)

One wonders who this Mr McCoy is that Useless Wiecky keeps stalking.
His imaginary friend, perhaps, because he doesn't have any real
friends?

Are you sure you're not jealous because Andre can afford real Western
Electric 300Bs (or just the boxes thereof)? ;-)

Hey! Dinya see the cherrywood box? That's not only real WE 300B, that's
a *matched pair* of real 300B.

- Never argue with idiots, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. -

Yeah, right. Poor old Useless Wiecky; doesn't have a tube amp,
certainly never built one -- but of course he knows better than I do
how it should be built. More macarooneys from the boonies; this poor
johnniecomelately appears completely unaware that he can buy back
copies of Glass Audio and other hobbyist magazines and perve over
piccies of other amps and test gear I've built. Rather reminds me of
the Magnequest Scum abusing me for a photo of my T113 I built on the
proto boards when they came from the licensee in Japan. Those boards
were so beautiful, I took my time soldering, making each joint a work
of beauty, and then couldn't resist writing a little article about the
pooftah flick of the wrist required for such beautiful soldering. The
usual scum went ballistic and, true to form, for the wrong reason:
because my soldering was *too* beautiful, not for my political
incorrectness.

Andre Jute

Here's my original post in this thread, about Pinkerton's unfitness for
passing judgement on anything but especially audio until he recovers
his objectivity (if he ever had it, of course: I've only known him for
ten years or so, during which time he displayed none).

********

Here's a bit of usenet history that now has been running more than a
year:

Stewart Pinkerton claims that Andre Jute didn't build an amp.

Andre Jute repeatedly tells PinkoStinko the amp is built.

Still the scumball PinkoStinko calls Andre Jute a liar.

Andre Jute directs PinkoStinko to a photograph of the amp.

http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg

PinkoStinko refuses to accept the proof, claiming, "No such proof has
been offered, just another of your smoke and mirror deceptions."

In his own post, only a few lines below PinkoStinko's mindless denial
of reality and truth, we find the URL for the photograph of the amp
which PinkoStinko claims has not been built:

http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg

This stubborn, heated denial is all of a piece with what I have come to

think of as the Pinkerton Pathology, in which truth bears no relation
to the facts, anyone who tells Pinkerton the truth is abused as a liar
(another blatant example is in the quoted text below), anyone who holds

Pinkerton to his own statements is abused as liar, anyone who proves
from Pinkerton's own mouth that yesterday (or sometimes only minutes
ago) he said the opposite of what he now claims is abused as a liar.

Such a disconnection from objective reality is symptomatic of
psychopathology, an extreme form of the disassociation from congenial
society that Andy Evans already demonstrated goes with Pinkerton's
observable personality type.

Such a rejection of objective reality is well beyond jokes about
phrenology; it is very likely a disease and should be treated.

It of course also makes any opinion PinkoStinko offers on the objective

business of audio evaluation perfectly untrustworthy, as PinkoStinko
practises zero objectivity. Perhaps, in a moment of lucidity
PinkoStinko realized that he is lost to objectivity, which might
account for the squirming, hangdog way he tried to join me in the KISS
300B project on RAT late in 2004.


Andre Jute

The Pinkerton Pathology, part 1: beyond anti-social tendencyinto disease
 

The problem, Andre, is that you claim the picture has been around for over a year:

Here's a photo that has been sitting there since
around a fortnight before you thought of your wretched KISASS travesty,
say 15 months:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg
None so blind as those who don't want to see, eh, Pinko?

Unfortunately there is no reference to that image on the internet before last
Wednesday
so you can't prove to the cynical Mr. Pinkerton that it was there a year ago.
Even more unfortunately, anyone can download the jpeg, check its properties and
see when you took the photograph.

--
Eiron

There's something scary about stupidity made coherent - Tom Stoppard.

The Pinkerton Pathology, part 1: beyond anti-social tendency into disease
 

Eiron wrote:
The problem, Andre, is that you claim the picture has been around for over a year:

Here's a photo that has been sitting there since
around a fortnight before you thought of your wretched KISASS travesty,
say 15 months:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg
None so blind as those who don't want to see, eh, Pinko?

Unfortunately there is no reference to that image on the internet before last
Wednesday
so you can't prove to the cynical Mr. Pinkerton that it was there a year ago.
Even more unfortunately, anyone can download the jpeg, check its properties and
see when you took the photograph.

--
Eiron

There's something scary about stupidity made coherent - Tom Stoppard.

Thanks, Eiron. You've just won me another 800 Euro in bets that some
sockpuppet would be dumb enough to claim I took the photos of the amp
recently.

Okay, you want a net reference as proof. Just for you, here is a photo
of the same amp:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/K...0T68MZ417A.jpg
on the net on 7 December 2004 at this reference:
http://www.allaudios.org/detail-9461307.html
And here is a description of how I made the potato amp by removing the
two 300B, just so clowns like you and Pinkerton can't claim it isn't
the same amp because the two 300B aren't sitting on it.
http://www.dvd-software.info/forums/ftopic27097.html
Read down a bit in this reference and you will find Pinkerton
commenting on 23 April 2005 on the photograph of an amp that he has
claimed many times since was not built. Pinkerton knew he was lying
when he repeatedly told his lie. Stewart Pinkerton is convicted out of
his own mouth of being lying scum.

We know Pinkerton owes me an apology, though of course he's such
uncivilized slime, I'm not holding my breath.

So, let's see your apology, Eiron. In its absence I shall class you as
lying scum, the same way I do PinkoStinko.

I reprint my original letter in this thread below. Thanks for helping
me prove my case point by point, Eiron, and of course for helping me
win a few bucks in bets! Come again, sport.

Andre Jute
Bring on the clowns. I like clowns. They crunch loudly when one steps
on them.


My original:

******
Here's a bit of usenet history that now has been running more than a
year:

Stewart Pinkerton claims that Andre Jute didn't build an amp.

Andre Jute repeatedly tells PinkoStinko the amp is built.

Still the scumball PinkoStinko calls Andre Jute a liar.

Andre Jute directs PinkoStinko to a photograph of the amp.
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg

PinkoStinko refuses to accept the proof, claiming, "No such proof has
been offered, just another of your smoke and mirror deceptions."

In his own post, only a few lines below PinkoStinko's mindless denial
of reality and truth, we find the URL for the photograph of the amp
which PinkoStinko claims has not been built:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg

This stubborn, heated denial is all of a piece with what I have come to

think of as the Pinkerton Pathology, in which truth bears no relation
to the facts, anyone who tells Pinkerton the truth is abused as a liar
(another blatant example is in the quoted text below), anyone who holds

Pinkerton to his own statements is abused as liar, anyone who proves
from Pinkerton's own mouth that yesterday (or sometimes only minutes
ago) he said the opposite of what he now claims is abused as a liar.

Such a disconnection from objective reality is symptomatic of
psychopathology, an extreme form of the disassociation from congenial
society that Andy Evans already demonstrated goes with Pinkerton's
observable personality type.

Such a rejection of objective reality is well beyond jokes about
phrenology; it is very likely a disease and should be treated.

It of course also makes any opinion PinkoStinko offers on the objective

business of audio evaluation perfectly untrustworthy, as PinkoStinko
practises zero objectivity. Perhaps, in a moment of lucidity
PinkoStinko realized that he is lost to objectivity, which might
account for the squirming, hangdog way he tried to join me in the KISS
300B project on RAT late in 2004.

Andre Jute

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
On 16 Feb 2006 03:08:50 -0800, "Andre Jute" wrote:

Anyone with a shred decency, publicly faced with photographic proof
that for over a year he has falsely been calling someone a liar, would
apologize. Stewart Pinkerton instead launches into further unproven,
unprovable allegations. Stewart Pinkerton is lying scum beyond
redemption.

No such proof has been offered, just another of your smoke and mirror
deceptions.

Pinkerton's despicable "designs" don't get built.

Sure they do - just not KISASS.

He twisted this way
and that way as he tried not to publish a schematic for his wretched
KISASS "design", and -- seeing the way its incompetence was savaged
merely from the description -- who can blame him?

More lies from Jute - but what else can one expect?

My designs get built. And are used and enjoyed. Here for your enjoyment
is The KISS Amp 300B "Ultrafi" proto again, the one the lying scumbag
Pinkerton claims was never built:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg

So when will you be building your KISASS, Pinkerton? Go on, sport, we
can do with a good laugh.

I won't be. Why would I? It's nearly as crippled as KISS.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

The Pinkerton Pathology, part 1: beyond anti-social tendency intodisease
 

Andre Jute wrote:

Here's a bit of usenet history that now has been running more than a
year:

Stewart Pinkerton claims that Andre Jute didn't build an amp.

Andre Jute repeatedly tells PinkoStinko the amp is built.

Still the scumball PinkoStinko calls Andre Jute a liar.

Andre Jute directs PinkoStinko to a photograph of the amp.
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg

PinkoStinko refuses to accept the proof, claiming, "No such proof has
been offered, just another of your smoke and mirror deceptions."

In his own post, only a few lines below PinkoStinko's mindless denial
of reality and truth, we find the URL for the photograph of the amp
which PinkoStinko claims has not been built:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg

This stubborn, heated denial is all of a piece with what I have come to
think of as the Pinkerton Pathology, in which truth bears no relation
to the facts, anyone who tells Pinkerton the truth is abused as a liar
(another blatant example is in the quoted text below), anyone who holds
Pinkerton to his own statements is abused as liar, anyone who proves
from Pinkerton's own mouth that yesterday (or sometimes only minutes
ago) he said the opposite of what he now claims is abused as a liar.

Such a disconnection from objective reality is symptomatic of
psychopathology, an extreme form of the disassociation from congenial
society that Andy Evans already demonstrated goes with Pinkerton's
observable personality type.

Such a rejection of objective reality is well beyond jokes about
phrenology; it is very likely a disease and should be treated.

It of course also makes any opinion PinkoStinko offers on the objective
business of audio evaluation perfectly untrustworthy, as PinkoStinko
practises zero objectivity. Perhaps, in a moment of lucidity
PinkoStinko realized that he is lost to objectivity, which might
account for the squirming, hangdog way he tried to join me in the KISS
300B project on RAT late in 2004.

Andre Jute

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
On 16 Feb 2006 03:08:50 -0800, "Andre Jute" wrote:

Anyone with a shred decency, publicly faced with photographic proof
that for over a year he has falsely been calling someone a liar, would
apologize. Stewart Pinkerton instead launches into further unproven,
unprovable allegations. Stewart Pinkerton is lying scum beyond
redemption.

No such proof has been offered, just another of your smoke and mirror
deceptions.

Pinkerton's despicable "designs" don't get built.

Sure they do - just not KISASS.

He twisted this way
and that way as he tried not to publish a schematic for his wretched
KISASS "design", and -- seeing the way its incompetence was savaged
merely from the description -- who can blame him?

More lies from Jute - but what else can one expect?

My designs get built. And are used and enjoyed. Here for your enjoyment
is The KISS Amp 300B "Ultrafi" proto again, the one the lying scumbag
Pinkerton claims was never built:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg

So when will you be building your KISASS, Pinkerton? Go on, sport, we
can do with a good laugh.

I won't be. Why would I? It's nearly as crippled as KISS.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Excuse me, but is that the soft coal burning, steam driven model or the
standard version? Even the download got stuck!

Yours, Confused

The Pinkerton Pathology, part 1: beyond anti-social tendency into disease
 

John Stewart wrote:
Andre Jute wrote:

Here's a bit of usenet history that now has been running more than a
year:

Stewart Pinkerton claims that Andre Jute didn't build an amp.

Andre Jute repeatedly tells PinkoStinko the amp is built.

Still the scumball PinkoStinko calls Andre Jute a liar.

Andre Jute directs PinkoStinko to a photograph of the amp.
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg

PinkoStinko refuses to accept the proof, claiming, "No such proof has
been offered, just another of your smoke and mirror deceptions."

In his own post, only a few lines below PinkoStinko's mindless denial
of reality and truth, we find the URL for the photograph of the amp
which PinkoStinko claims has not been built:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg

This stubborn, heated denial is all of a piece with what I have come to
think of as the Pinkerton Pathology, in which truth bears no relation
to the facts, anyone who tells Pinkerton the truth is abused as a liar
(another blatant example is in the quoted text below), anyone who holds
Pinkerton to his own statements is abused as liar, anyone who proves
from Pinkerton's own mouth that yesterday (or sometimes only minutes
ago) he said the opposite of what he now claims is abused as a liar.

Such a disconnection from objective reality is symptomatic of
psychopathology, an extreme form of the disassociation from congenial
society that Andy Evans already demonstrated goes with Pinkerton's
observable personality type.

Such a rejection of objective reality is well beyond jokes about
phrenology; it is very likely a disease and should be treated.

It of course also makes any opinion PinkoStinko offers on the objective
business of audio evaluation perfectly untrustworthy, as PinkoStinko
practises zero objectivity. Perhaps, in a moment of lucidity
PinkoStinko realized that he is lost to objectivity, which might
account for the squirming, hangdog way he tried to join me in the KISS
300B project on RAT late in 2004.

Andre Jute

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
On 16 Feb 2006 03:08:50 -0800, "Andre Jute" wrote:

Anyone with a shred decency, publicly faced with photographic proof
that for over a year he has falsely been calling someone a liar, would
apologize. Stewart Pinkerton instead launches into further unproven,
unprovable allegations. Stewart Pinkerton is lying scum beyond
redemption.

No such proof has been offered, just another of your smoke and mirror
deceptions.

Pinkerton's despicable "designs" don't get built.

Sure they do - just not KISASS.

He twisted this way
and that way as he tried not to publish a schematic for his wretched
KISASS "design", and -- seeing the way its incompetence was savaged
merely from the description -- who can blame him?

More lies from Jute - but what else can one expect?

My designs get built. And are used and enjoyed. Here for your enjoyment
is The KISS Amp 300B "Ultrafi" proto again, the one the lying scumbag
Pinkerton claims was never built:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg

So when will you be building your KISASS, Pinkerton? Go on, sport, we
can do with a good laugh.

I won't be. Why would I? It's nearly as crippled as KISS.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Excuse me, but is that the soft coal burning, steam driven model or the
standard version? Even the download got stuck!

Yours, Confused

Nah, you're not confused, John. The whole point of this thread is that
it is an amp you saw many times if you clicked the link each time I
referenced it -- the same amp that Pinkerton saw many times, even as he
lied and lied and lied that I hadn't built it.

But, if you insist, I'll be happy to send the piccie referenced to your
e-mail. Say the word. It'll have to be tomorrow because now I'm off to
read a new James Lee Burke in my bath.

Andre Jute

The Pinkerton Pathology, part 1: beyond anti-social tendency into disease
 

You are so sad...

Your reference above:

http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/K...0T68MZ417A.jpg

Post-dates your first reference... Scramble as you will, the breadboard
junker you refer to as your Magnum Opus seems to be a rather recent
phenomenon... and of dubious veracity.

Do you understand what "properties" means?

As to:

One wonders who this Mr McCoy is that Useless Wiecky keeps stalking.
His imaginary friend, perhaps, because he doesn't have any real
friends?

As it follows from your own pages:

McCOY, ANDREW; pseudonym of André Jute, (1945- )
* *The Meyeresco Helix (Grafton 0-586-07292-7, Sep '88 [Oct '88],
£3.50, 416pp, pb) Near-future thriller about a superhuman being. [Not
seen]

I earn my daily dry crust as a writer. Here you will find a list of my
books, extracts from work in progress, sometimes sections from my books
for other writers or new articles for other writers, and general
reflections on life, literature and the universe. Also home to guest
writers Andrew McCoy and Martin Maria Mahon.

Would Martin Mahon be another alter-ego? Seems likely given your
history.

Real McCoy Audio - Tube Amplifier Design Info. formerly Jute on Amps
....
only this page is mysteriously gone... What happened?

Smoke, mirrors and posturing. Substance? Not hardly.

You really do need your medication adjusted. As I stated earlier, you
had no reason to start this thread, but on your own head be it.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA