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Andre Jute February 18th 06 04:23 PM

The Pinkerton Pathology, part 1: beyond anti-social tendency into disease
 
Here's a bit of usenet history that now has been running more than a
year:

Stewart Pinkerton claims that Andre Jute didn't build an amp.

Andre Jute repeatedly tells PinkoStinko the amp is built.

Still the scumball PinkoStinko calls Andre Jute a liar.

Andre Jute directs PinkoStinko to a photograph of the amp.
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg


PinkoStinko refuses to accept the proof, claiming, "No such proof has
been offered, just another of your smoke and mirror deceptions."

In his own post, only a few lines below PinkoStinko's mindless denial
of reality and truth, we find the URL for the photograph of the amp
which PinkoStinko claims has not been built:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg


This stubborn, heated denial is all of a piece with what I have come to
think of as the Pinkerton Pathology, in which truth bears no relation
to the facts, anyone who tells Pinkerton the truth is abused as a liar
(another blatant example is in the quoted text below), anyone who holds
Pinkerton to his own statements is abused as liar, anyone who proves
from Pinkerton's own mouth that yesterday (or sometimes only minutes
ago) he said the opposite of what he now claims is abused as a liar.

Such a disconnection from objective reality is symptomatic of
psychopathology, an extreme form of the disassociation from congenial
society that Andy Evans already demonstrated goes with Pinkerton's
observable personality type.

Such a rejection of objective reality is well beyond jokes about
phrenology; it is very likely a disease and should be treated.

It of course also makes any opinion PinkoStinko offers on the objective
business of audio evaluation perfectly untrustworthy, as PinkoStinko
practises zero objectivity. Perhaps, in a moment of lucidity
PinkoStinko realized that he is lost to objectivity, which might
account for the squirming, hangdog way he tried to join me in the KISS
300B project on RAT late in 2004.

Andre Jute

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
On 16 Feb 2006 03:08:50 -0800, "Andre Jute" wrote:

Anyone with a shred decency, publicly faced with photographic proof
that for over a year he has falsely been calling someone a liar, would
apologize. Stewart Pinkerton instead launches into further unproven,
unprovable allegations. Stewart Pinkerton is lying scum beyond
redemption.


No such proof has been offered, just another of your smoke and mirror
deceptions.

Pinkerton's despicable "designs" don't get built.


Sure they do - just not KISASS.

He twisted this way
and that way as he tried not to publish a schematic for his wretched
KISASS "design", and -- seeing the way its incompetence was savaged
merely from the description -- who can blame him?


More lies from Jute - but what else can one expect?

My designs get built. And are used and enjoyed. Here for your enjoyment
is The KISS Amp 300B "Ultrafi" proto again, the one the lying scumbag
Pinkerton claims was never built:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg

So when will you be building your KISASS, Pinkerton? Go on, sport, we
can do with a good laugh.


I won't be. Why would I? It's nearly as crippled as KISS.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering



[email protected] February 18th 06 08:57 PM

The Pinkerton Pathology, part 1: beyond anti-social tendency into disease
 
Stewart Pinkerton claims that Andre Jute didn't build an amp.

Mr. McCoy:

With all due respect.

Given your pontificating on all things Tubes ('scuse, Valves), Amps &
SET. Given your opining on the relative qualities of capacitors, tubes
(there I go again, VALVES), circuits, "fast" and "slow" amps and
whatever else.... If

http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg

is your offering for "having built" an amp, Stewart may be wrong in the
absolute, but he sure is correct in application. Either that is a
breadboard experiment in concept testing, or it is Dr.
VonFrankenstein's worst nightmare. Can you not afford decent tools?
Interconnect wire? Have you ever soldered before? Do you understand the
concept of "looming" wire? Twisting for shielding? And that is at a
glance without seeing the pretzel from all sides. I would be ashamed to
display that work if it were mine.

So, if you really want to put Mr. Pinkerton's assertions away for
good-and-all, show us an amp that you built _and_ is *finished* and
working.

Oh, one last question. Define "Build". Does it mean 'assemble from a
prepared list of parts to someone else's circuit design'? Or does it
mean designed-from-scratch? If the former, then Stewart is correct in
his assertions even with your picture. If the latter, how does it work?
Be honest now. And, it is enough that you like it, no need to
exaggerate.

You did not have to start this thread, I am sure that your acolytes
believe whatever you might suggest anyway. The skeptics amongst us only
groan at this so-called evidence and those of us with some
fellow-feeling remaining towards you just worry that you are
well-and-truly losing it.

I really did think you had finally gotten your medication adjusted
properly when you made your recent post on film caps. Not only was what
you had to say true, but even reasonably accurate for a non-tech. But
this thread... YIKES... right back off the sand-bar and out of your
depth.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


Sander deWaal February 18th 06 09:16 PM

The Pinkerton Pathology, part 1: beyond anti-social tendency into disease
 
" said:

Mr. McCoy:


With all due respect.


Given your pontificating on all things Tubes ('scuse, Valves), Amps &
SET. Given your opining on the relative qualities of capacitors, tubes
(there I go again, VALVES), circuits, "fast" and "slow" amps and
whatever else.... If


http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg


is your offering for "having built" an amp, Stewart may be wrong in the
absolute, but he sure is correct in application. Either that is a
breadboard experiment in concept testing, or it is Dr.
VonFrankenstein's worst nightmare. Can you not afford decent tools?
Interconnect wire? Have you ever soldered before? Do you understand the
concept of "looming" wire? Twisting for shielding? And that is at a
glance without seeing the pretzel from all sides. I would be ashamed to
display that work if it were mine.



Are you sure you're not jealous because Andre can afford real Western
Electric 300Bs (or just the boxes thereof)? ;-)

--

- Never argue with idiots, they drag you down their level and beat you with experience. -

[email protected] February 18th 06 10:43 PM

The Pinkerton Pathology, part 1: beyond anti-social tendency into disease
 
Are you sure you're not jealous because Andre can afford real Western
Electric 300Bs (or just the boxes thereof)? ;-)


Pennsylvania is an interesting state in an intersesting country as it
applies to electronics.

Once, some 8 years ago, or so, my wife and I were driving back from our
summer house and passed through Tamaqua, PA. We passed a garage-sale,
the seller being a former WE tech. One box-lot followed me home for $5
consisting of two WE300b, two RCA 2A3, and two RCA 10. Such is life.

They are long gone... given to friends who had actual vintage equipment
that actually used them. And who still have them.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


Andre Jute February 18th 06 11:02 PM

The Pinkerton Pathology, part 1: beyond anti-social tendency into disease
 

Sander deWaal wrote:
" said:

Mr. McCoy:


(snip)

One wonders who this Mr McCoy is that Useless Wiecky keeps stalking.
His imaginary friend, perhaps, because he doesn't have any real
friends?

Are you sure you're not jealous because Andre can afford real Western
Electric 300Bs (or just the boxes thereof)? ;-)


Hey! Dinya see the cherrywood box? That's not only real WE 300B, that's
a *matched pair* of real 300B.

- Never argue with idiots, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. -


Yeah, right. Poor old Useless Wiecky; doesn't have a tube amp,
certainly never built one -- but of course he knows better than I do
how it should be built. More macarooneys from the boonies; this poor
johnniecomelately appears completely unaware that he can buy back
copies of Glass Audio and other hobbyist magazines and perve over
piccies of other amps and test gear I've built. Rather reminds me of
the Magnequest Scum abusing me for a photo of my T113 I built on the
proto boards when they came from the licensee in Japan. Those boards
were so beautiful, I took my time soldering, making each joint a work
of beauty, and then couldn't resist writing a little article about the
pooftah flick of the wrist required for such beautiful soldering. The
usual scum went ballistic and, true to form, for the wrong reason:
because my soldering was *too* beautiful, not for my political
incorrectness.

Andre Jute

Here's my original post in this thread, about Pinkerton's unfitness for
passing judgement on anything but especially audio until he recovers
his objectivity (if he ever had it, of course: I've only known him for
ten years or so, during which time he displayed none).

********

Here's a bit of usenet history that now has been running more than a
year:

Stewart Pinkerton claims that Andre Jute didn't build an amp.

Andre Jute repeatedly tells PinkoStinko the amp is built.

Still the scumball PinkoStinko calls Andre Jute a liar.

Andre Jute directs PinkoStinko to a photograph of the amp.

http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg


PinkoStinko refuses to accept the proof, claiming, "No such proof has
been offered, just another of your smoke and mirror deceptions."

In his own post, only a few lines below PinkoStinko's mindless denial
of reality and truth, we find the URL for the photograph of the amp
which PinkoStinko claims has not been built:

http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg


This stubborn, heated denial is all of a piece with what I have come to

think of as the Pinkerton Pathology, in which truth bears no relation
to the facts, anyone who tells Pinkerton the truth is abused as a liar
(another blatant example is in the quoted text below), anyone who holds

Pinkerton to his own statements is abused as liar, anyone who proves
from Pinkerton's own mouth that yesterday (or sometimes only minutes
ago) he said the opposite of what he now claims is abused as a liar.

Such a disconnection from objective reality is symptomatic of
psychopathology, an extreme form of the disassociation from congenial
society that Andy Evans already demonstrated goes with Pinkerton's
observable personality type.

Such a rejection of objective reality is well beyond jokes about
phrenology; it is very likely a disease and should be treated.

It of course also makes any opinion PinkoStinko offers on the objective

business of audio evaluation perfectly untrustworthy, as PinkoStinko
practises zero objectivity. Perhaps, in a moment of lucidity
PinkoStinko realized that he is lost to objectivity, which might
account for the squirming, hangdog way he tried to join me in the KISS
300B project on RAT late in 2004.


Andre Jute


Eiron February 18th 06 11:34 PM

The Pinkerton Pathology, part 1: beyond anti-social tendencyinto disease
 
The problem, Andre, is that you claim the picture has been around for over a year:

Here's a photo that has been sitting there since
around a fortnight before you thought of your wretched KISASS travesty,
say 15 months:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg
None so blind as those who don't want to see, eh, Pinko?


Unfortunately there is no reference to that image on the internet before last
Wednesday
so you can't prove to the cynical Mr. Pinkerton that it was there a year ago.
Even more unfortunately, anyone can download the jpeg, check its properties and
see when you took the photograph.

--
Eiron

There's something scary about stupidity made coherent - Tom Stoppard.

Andre Jute February 19th 06 12:46 AM

The Pinkerton Pathology, part 1: beyond anti-social tendency into disease
 

Eiron wrote:
The problem, Andre, is that you claim the picture has been around for over a year:

Here's a photo that has been sitting there since
around a fortnight before you thought of your wretched KISASS travesty,
say 15 months:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg
None so blind as those who don't want to see, eh, Pinko?


Unfortunately there is no reference to that image on the internet before last
Wednesday
so you can't prove to the cynical Mr. Pinkerton that it was there a year ago.
Even more unfortunately, anyone can download the jpeg, check its properties and
see when you took the photograph.

--
Eiron

There's something scary about stupidity made coherent - Tom Stoppard.


Thanks, Eiron. You've just won me another 800 Euro in bets that some
sockpuppet would be dumb enough to claim I took the photos of the amp
recently.

Okay, you want a net reference as proof. Just for you, here is a photo
of the same amp:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/K...0T68MZ417A.jpg
on the net on 7 December 2004 at this reference:
http://www.allaudios.org/detail-9461307.html
And here is a description of how I made the potato amp by removing the
two 300B, just so clowns like you and Pinkerton can't claim it isn't
the same amp because the two 300B aren't sitting on it.
http://www.dvd-software.info/forums/ftopic27097.html
Read down a bit in this reference and you will find Pinkerton
commenting on 23 April 2005 on the photograph of an amp that he has
claimed many times since was not built. Pinkerton knew he was lying
when he repeatedly told his lie. Stewart Pinkerton is convicted out of
his own mouth of being lying scum.

We know Pinkerton owes me an apology, though of course he's such
uncivilized slime, I'm not holding my breath.

So, let's see your apology, Eiron. In its absence I shall class you as
lying scum, the same way I do PinkoStinko.

I reprint my original letter in this thread below. Thanks for helping
me prove my case point by point, Eiron, and of course for helping me
win a few bucks in bets! Come again, sport.

Andre Jute
Bring on the clowns. I like clowns. They crunch loudly when one steps
on them.


My original:

******
Here's a bit of usenet history that now has been running more than a
year:

Stewart Pinkerton claims that Andre Jute didn't build an amp.

Andre Jute repeatedly tells PinkoStinko the amp is built.

Still the scumball PinkoStinko calls Andre Jute a liar.

Andre Jute directs PinkoStinko to a photograph of the amp.
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg


PinkoStinko refuses to accept the proof, claiming, "No such proof has
been offered, just another of your smoke and mirror deceptions."

In his own post, only a few lines below PinkoStinko's mindless denial
of reality and truth, we find the URL for the photograph of the amp
which PinkoStinko claims has not been built:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg


This stubborn, heated denial is all of a piece with what I have come to

think of as the Pinkerton Pathology, in which truth bears no relation
to the facts, anyone who tells Pinkerton the truth is abused as a liar
(another blatant example is in the quoted text below), anyone who holds

Pinkerton to his own statements is abused as liar, anyone who proves
from Pinkerton's own mouth that yesterday (or sometimes only minutes
ago) he said the opposite of what he now claims is abused as a liar.

Such a disconnection from objective reality is symptomatic of
psychopathology, an extreme form of the disassociation from congenial
society that Andy Evans already demonstrated goes with Pinkerton's
observable personality type.

Such a rejection of objective reality is well beyond jokes about
phrenology; it is very likely a disease and should be treated.

It of course also makes any opinion PinkoStinko offers on the objective

business of audio evaluation perfectly untrustworthy, as PinkoStinko
practises zero objectivity. Perhaps, in a moment of lucidity
PinkoStinko realized that he is lost to objectivity, which might
account for the squirming, hangdog way he tried to join me in the KISS
300B project on RAT late in 2004.

Andre Jute

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
On 16 Feb 2006 03:08:50 -0800, "Andre Jute" wrote:


Anyone with a shred decency, publicly faced with photographic proof
that for over a year he has falsely been calling someone a liar, would
apologize. Stewart Pinkerton instead launches into further unproven,
unprovable allegations. Stewart Pinkerton is lying scum beyond
redemption.


No such proof has been offered, just another of your smoke and mirror
deceptions.


Pinkerton's despicable "designs" don't get built.


Sure they do - just not KISASS.


He twisted this way
and that way as he tried not to publish a schematic for his wretched
KISASS "design", and -- seeing the way its incompetence was savaged
merely from the description -- who can blame him?


More lies from Jute - but what else can one expect?


My designs get built. And are used and enjoyed. Here for your enjoyment
is The KISS Amp 300B "Ultrafi" proto again, the one the lying scumbag
Pinkerton claims was never built:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg


So when will you be building your KISASS, Pinkerton? Go on, sport, we
can do with a good laugh.


I won't be. Why would I? It's nearly as crippled as KISS.
--


Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering



John Stewart February 19th 06 12:51 AM

The Pinkerton Pathology, part 1: beyond anti-social tendency intodisease
 
Andre Jute wrote:

Here's a bit of usenet history that now has been running more than a
year:

Stewart Pinkerton claims that Andre Jute didn't build an amp.

Andre Jute repeatedly tells PinkoStinko the amp is built.

Still the scumball PinkoStinko calls Andre Jute a liar.

Andre Jute directs PinkoStinko to a photograph of the amp.
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg


PinkoStinko refuses to accept the proof, claiming, "No such proof has
been offered, just another of your smoke and mirror deceptions."

In his own post, only a few lines below PinkoStinko's mindless denial
of reality and truth, we find the URL for the photograph of the amp
which PinkoStinko claims has not been built:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg


This stubborn, heated denial is all of a piece with what I have come to
think of as the Pinkerton Pathology, in which truth bears no relation
to the facts, anyone who tells Pinkerton the truth is abused as a liar
(another blatant example is in the quoted text below), anyone who holds
Pinkerton to his own statements is abused as liar, anyone who proves
from Pinkerton's own mouth that yesterday (or sometimes only minutes
ago) he said the opposite of what he now claims is abused as a liar.

Such a disconnection from objective reality is symptomatic of
psychopathology, an extreme form of the disassociation from congenial
society that Andy Evans already demonstrated goes with Pinkerton's
observable personality type.

Such a rejection of objective reality is well beyond jokes about
phrenology; it is very likely a disease and should be treated.

It of course also makes any opinion PinkoStinko offers on the objective
business of audio evaluation perfectly untrustworthy, as PinkoStinko
practises zero objectivity. Perhaps, in a moment of lucidity
PinkoStinko realized that he is lost to objectivity, which might
account for the squirming, hangdog way he tried to join me in the KISS
300B project on RAT late in 2004.

Andre Jute

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
On 16 Feb 2006 03:08:50 -0800, "Andre Jute" wrote:

Anyone with a shred decency, publicly faced with photographic proof
that for over a year he has falsely been calling someone a liar, would
apologize. Stewart Pinkerton instead launches into further unproven,
unprovable allegations. Stewart Pinkerton is lying scum beyond
redemption.


No such proof has been offered, just another of your smoke and mirror
deceptions.

Pinkerton's despicable "designs" don't get built.


Sure they do - just not KISASS.

He twisted this way
and that way as he tried not to publish a schematic for his wretched
KISASS "design", and -- seeing the way its incompetence was savaged
merely from the description -- who can blame him?


More lies from Jute - but what else can one expect?

My designs get built. And are used and enjoyed. Here for your enjoyment
is The KISS Amp 300B "Ultrafi" proto again, the one the lying scumbag
Pinkerton claims was never built:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg

So when will you be building your KISASS, Pinkerton? Go on, sport, we
can do with a good laugh.


I won't be. Why would I? It's nearly as crippled as KISS.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering


Excuse me, but is that the soft coal burning, steam driven model or the
standard version? Even the download got stuck!

Yours, Confused


Andre Jute February 19th 06 01:29 AM

The Pinkerton Pathology, part 1: beyond anti-social tendency into disease
 

John Stewart wrote:
Andre Jute wrote:

Here's a bit of usenet history that now has been running more than a
year:

Stewart Pinkerton claims that Andre Jute didn't build an amp.

Andre Jute repeatedly tells PinkoStinko the amp is built.

Still the scumball PinkoStinko calls Andre Jute a liar.

Andre Jute directs PinkoStinko to a photograph of the amp.
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg


PinkoStinko refuses to accept the proof, claiming, "No such proof has
been offered, just another of your smoke and mirror deceptions."

In his own post, only a few lines below PinkoStinko's mindless denial
of reality and truth, we find the URL for the photograph of the amp
which PinkoStinko claims has not been built:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg


This stubborn, heated denial is all of a piece with what I have come to
think of as the Pinkerton Pathology, in which truth bears no relation
to the facts, anyone who tells Pinkerton the truth is abused as a liar
(another blatant example is in the quoted text below), anyone who holds
Pinkerton to his own statements is abused as liar, anyone who proves
from Pinkerton's own mouth that yesterday (or sometimes only minutes
ago) he said the opposite of what he now claims is abused as a liar.

Such a disconnection from objective reality is symptomatic of
psychopathology, an extreme form of the disassociation from congenial
society that Andy Evans already demonstrated goes with Pinkerton's
observable personality type.

Such a rejection of objective reality is well beyond jokes about
phrenology; it is very likely a disease and should be treated.

It of course also makes any opinion PinkoStinko offers on the objective
business of audio evaluation perfectly untrustworthy, as PinkoStinko
practises zero objectivity. Perhaps, in a moment of lucidity
PinkoStinko realized that he is lost to objectivity, which might
account for the squirming, hangdog way he tried to join me in the KISS
300B project on RAT late in 2004.

Andre Jute

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
On 16 Feb 2006 03:08:50 -0800, "Andre Jute" wrote:

Anyone with a shred decency, publicly faced with photographic proof
that for over a year he has falsely been calling someone a liar, would
apologize. Stewart Pinkerton instead launches into further unproven,
unprovable allegations. Stewart Pinkerton is lying scum beyond
redemption.

No such proof has been offered, just another of your smoke and mirror
deceptions.

Pinkerton's despicable "designs" don't get built.

Sure they do - just not KISASS.

He twisted this way
and that way as he tried not to publish a schematic for his wretched
KISASS "design", and -- seeing the way its incompetence was savaged
merely from the description -- who can blame him?

More lies from Jute - but what else can one expect?

My designs get built. And are used and enjoyed. Here for your enjoyment
is The KISS Amp 300B "Ultrafi" proto again, the one the lying scumbag
Pinkerton claims was never built:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg

So when will you be building your KISASS, Pinkerton? Go on, sport, we
can do with a good laugh.

I won't be. Why would I? It's nearly as crippled as KISS.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering


Excuse me, but is that the soft coal burning, steam driven model or the
standard version? Even the download got stuck!

Yours, Confused


Nah, you're not confused, John. The whole point of this thread is that
it is an amp you saw many times if you clicked the link each time I
referenced it -- the same amp that Pinkerton saw many times, even as he
lied and lied and lied that I hadn't built it.

But, if you insist, I'll be happy to send the piccie referenced to your
e-mail. Say the word. It'll have to be tomorrow because now I'm off to
read a new James Lee Burke in my bath.

Andre Jute


[email protected] February 19th 06 02:14 AM

The Pinkerton Pathology, part 1: beyond anti-social tendency into disease
 
You are so sad...

Your reference above:

http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/K...0T68MZ417A.jpg

Post-dates your first reference... Scramble as you will, the breadboard
junker you refer to as your Magnum Opus seems to be a rather recent
phenomenon... and of dubious veracity.

Do you understand what "properties" means?

As to:

One wonders who this Mr McCoy is that Useless Wiecky keeps stalking.
His imaginary friend, perhaps, because he doesn't have any real
friends?


As it follows from your own pages:

McCOY, ANDREW; pseudonym of André Jute, (1945- )
* *The Meyeresco Helix (Grafton 0-586-07292-7, Sep '88 [Oct '88],
£3.50, 416pp, pb) Near-future thriller about a superhuman being. [Not
seen]

I earn my daily dry crust as a writer. Here you will find a list of my
books, extracts from work in progress, sometimes sections from my books
for other writers or new articles for other writers, and general
reflections on life, literature and the universe. Also home to guest
writers Andrew McCoy and Martin Maria Mahon.

Would Martin Mahon be another alter-ego? Seems likely given your
history.

Real McCoy Audio - Tube Amplifier Design Info. formerly Jute on Amps
....
only this page is mysteriously gone... What happened?

Smoke, mirrors and posturing. Substance? Not hardly.

You really do need your medication adjusted. As I stated earlier, you
had no reason to start this thread, but on your own head be it.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


Eiron February 19th 06 11:16 AM

A public apology to Andre Jute.
 
Andre Jute wrote:

So, let's see your apology, Eiron. In its absence I shall class you as
lying scum, the same way I do PinkoStinko.


I apologise for doubting that there was a complete circuit diagram available
of your KISS amplifier cum NiCad charger. It was here all the time:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/T...trafi-crct.jpg
How magnificent in its elegant simplicity! Truly a work of genius!
I particularly like the way it keeps four AA cells charged so your
digital camera is always ready in case a cynic doubts its existence.

--
Eiron

There's something scary about stupidity made coherent - Tom Stoppard.

Andre Jute February 19th 06 12:31 PM

A public apology to Andre Jute.
 

Eiron wrote:
Andre Jute wrote:

So, let's see your apology, Eiron. In its absence I shall class you as
lying scum, the same way I do PinkoStinko.


I apologise for doubting that there was a complete circuit diagram available
of your KISS amplifier cum NiCad charger. It was here all the time:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/T...trafi-crct.jpg


And here is a photo of the same amp built:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/K...0T68MZ417A.jpg
and on the net on 7 December 2004 at this reference:
http://www.allaudios.org/detail-9461307.html

How magnificent in its elegant simplicity! Truly a work of genius!


Thank you, Eiron. We can only try.

I particularly like the way it keeps four AA cells charged


Simplification, as you observe, is the hallmark of genius. That amp has
fewer parts than the so-called Gaincard (which sells for more than the
component cost of my KISS Amp 300B "UltraFi" the GainClones. It's
description is he
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/T...mp%20INDEX.htm

so your
digital camera is always ready in case a cynic doubts its existence.


So you too have noticed the fascist tendency of the naysayers on the
Usenet to demand proof of their negatives. That is an abrogation of the
human right to be innocent until proven guilty.

But never mind, I have proven Pinkerton grossly and knowingly guilty of
telling the same lie for a period of nearly fifteen months, while you,
his sockpuppet, have escaped by apologizing. A good outcome all round.
--
Eiron

There's something scary about stupidity made coherent - Tom Stoppard.


Indeed there is. I see it every time some dull clown fancies himself a
polemicist.

Andre Jute

And here, just for reference, is my original to which you are
responding:
****
Thanks, Eiron. You've just won me another 800 Euro in bets that some
sockpuppet would be dumb enough to claim I took the photos of the amp
recently.

Okay, you want a net reference as proof. Just for you, here is a photo
of the same amp:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/K...0T68MZ417A.jpg
on the net on 7 December 2004 at this reference:
http://www.allaudios.org/detail-9461307.html
And here is a description of how I made the potato amp by removing the
two 300B, just so clowns like you and Pinkerton can't claim it isn't
the same amp because the two 300B aren't sitting on it.
http://www.dvd-software.info/forums/ftopic27097.html
Read down a bit in this reference and you will find Pinkerton
commenting on 23 April 2005 on the photograph of an amp that he has
claimed many times since was not built. Pinkerton knew he was lying
when he repeatedly told his lie. Stewart Pinkerton is convicted out of
his own mouth of being lying scum.

We know Pinkerton owes me an apology, though of course he's such
uncivilized slime, I'm not holding my breath.

So, let's see your apology, Eiron. In its absence I shall class you as
lying scum, the same way I do PinkoStinko.

I reprint my original letter in this thread below. Thanks for helping
me prove my case point by point, Eiron, and of course for helping me
win a few bucks in bets! Come again, sport.

Andre Jute
Bring on the clowns. I like clowns. They crunch loudly when one steps
on them.

My original:

******
Here's a bit of usenet history that now has been running more than a
year:

Stewart Pinkerton claims that Andre Jute didn't build an amp.

Andre Jute repeatedly tells PinkoStinko the amp is built.

Still the scumball PinkoStinko calls Andre Jute a liar.

Andre Jute directs PinkoStinko to a photograph of the amp.

http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg


PinkoStinko refuses to accept the proof, claiming, "No such proof has
been offered, just another of your smoke and mirror deceptions." In his
own post, only a few lines below PinkoStinko's mindless denial
of reality and truth, we find the URL for the photograph of the amp
which PinkoStinko claims has not been built:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg


This stubborn, heated denial is all of a piece with what I have come to
think of as the Pinkerton Pathology, in which truth bears no relation
to the facts, anyone who tells Pinkerton the truth is abused as a liar
(another blatant example is in the quoted text below), anyone who holds



Pinkerton to his own statements is abused as liar, anyone who proves
from Pinkerton's own mouth that yesterday (or sometimes only minutes
ago) he said the opposite of what he now claims is abused as a liar.


Such a disconnection from objective reality is symptomatic of
psychopathology, an extreme form of the disassociation from congenial
society that Andy Evans already demonstrated goes with Pinkerton's
observable personality type.

Such a rejection of objective reality is well beyond jokes about
phrenology; it is very likely a disease and should be treated.

It of course also makes any opinion PinkoStinko offers on the objective
business of audio evaluation perfectly untrustworthy, as PinkoStinko
practises zero objectivity. Perhaps, in a moment of lucidity
PinkoStinko realized that he is lost to objectivity, which might
account for the squirming, hangdog way he tried to join me in the KISS
300B project on RAT late in 2004.


Andre Jute


Andre Jute February 19th 06 12:56 PM

The Pinkerton Pathology, part 1: beyond anti-social tendency into disease
 

flipper wrote:
On 18 Feb 2006 17:46:45 -0800, "Andre Jute" wrote:


Eiron wrote:
The problem, Andre, is that you claim the picture has been around for over a year:

Here's a photo that has been sitting there since
around a fortnight before you thought of your wretched KISASS travesty,
say 15 months:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg
None so blind as those who don't want to see, eh, Pinko?

Unfortunately there is no reference to that image on the internet before last
Wednesday
so you can't prove to the cynical Mr. Pinkerton that it was there a year ago.
Even more unfortunately, anyone can download the jpeg, check its properties and
see when you took the photograph.

--
Eiron

There's something scary about stupidity made coherent - Tom Stoppard.


Thanks, Eiron. You've just won me another 800 Euro in bets that some
sockpuppet would be dumb enough to claim I took the photos of the amp
recently.


He's just going by the properties stored in the jpg by, it would seem,
a Cannon Digital IXUS 300 camera when it took the picture at,
according to the properties, 1/60 sec, F/2.7, flash mode. subject
distance 459 mm, and time stamped 2/15/2006 12:21PM.


Thanks, Flipper; I see now. The only thing that was changed was the
resolution of the pic. I wanted to replace the small, netfriendly pic
on the net with a bigger one of the same for the usual creeps to perve
over. The high-res original pic is on a different computer, so I loaded
it from that computer back into the camera, carried the camera to the
computer with the broadband connection, then pasted the highres version
over the low-res version on the net to preserve the name. So a bunch of
date data was confused by being carelessly transferred. Big deal. There
is no difference except resolution: it is the same photo. Furthermore,
that photo is clearly of this amp:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/K...0T68MZ417A.jpg
which is on the net on 7 December 2004 at this reference:
http://www.allaudios.org/detail-9461307.html
and here is a description of how I made the potato amp by removing the
two 300B:
http://www.dvd-software.info/forums/ftopic27097.html
which tells you clearly that the photograph the little loudmouths are
muckraking about was taken first, that is before 7 December 2004!

All this information was in previous posts but the little suckerfish
you find on these conferences don't have any justification for wasting
oxygen except to put the worst possible interpretation on any tiny
little nit they can find.

This thread is about PinkoPsycho lying about the existence of that amp.
Read down a bit in the reference above and you will find Pinkerton
commenting on 23 April 2005 on the photograph of an amp that he has
claimed many times since was not built. Pinkerton knew he was lying
when he repeatedly told his lie. Stewart Pinkerton is convicted out of
his own mouth of being lying scum. Yet his sockpuppets entirely
overlook that unassailable provenance and instead try to convict me of
a mechanical glitch on an earlier photograph taken from a slightly
different angle. It's a smokescreen for the sickness of their hero, and
they know it.

Andre Jute


[email protected] February 19th 06 02:12 PM

The Pinkerton Pathology, part 1: beyond anti-social tendency into disease
 
McCOY, ANDREW; pseudonym of André Jute, (1945- )
* *The Meyeresco Helix (Grafton 0-586-07292-7, Sep '88 [Oct '88],
£3.50, 416pp, pb) Near-future thriller about a superhuman being. [Not
seen]


So, this is NOT you? Because if it is you, all your waffling is just
more fluff and flummery and you just hiding within your carefully
crafted fantasy world. That "pseudonym" note above was linked to your
pages, or I would never have found it. In any case, it is offered as to
why I indulge you by addressing you as "Mr. McCoy".

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


Stewart Pinkerton February 19th 06 02:26 PM

Jute's lies multiply to Infinity - and beyond
 
On 18 Feb 2006 09:23:18 -0800, "Andre Jute" wrote:

Here's a bit of usenet history that now has been running more than a
year:


Indeed it has, so isn't it interesting that this photograph has
magically appeared just this week?

Stewart Pinkerton claims that Andre Jute didn't build an amp.


Correct - and not just me.

Andre Jute repeatedly tells PinkoStinko the amp is built.


Jute makes many fantastic claims - Munchausen Syndrome is like that.
And in fact, your claim above is in itself a lie, since you have
assiduously avoided stating as a fact that KISS existed, until last
week.

Still the scumball PinkoStinko calls Andre Jute a liar.


So does everyone else, because you keep telling obvious lies.

Andre Jute directs PinkoStinko to a photograph of the amp.
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg


Indeed, that is a photograph of an amplifier chassis with some
components visible on the top surface. Aside from the magical
appearance of the 300Bs on the top deck, it is in fact a photograph of
an earlier amplifier which you claimed was a 'development mule for the
KISS driver stage'. This amp does appear in the 'KISS project' pages
of your website, while the photograph above does not. Curious, no?

PinkoStinko refuses to accept the proof, claiming, "No such proof has
been offered, just another of your smoke and mirror deceptions."


It's certainly not proof that any such fully functional amplifier
existed a year ago.

In his own post, only a few lines below PinkoStinko's mindless denial
of reality and truth, we find the URL for the photograph of the amp
which PinkoStinko claims has not been built:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg


My claim predated the magical appearance of this photograph, more than
a *full year* after the event, which photograph is of course not
necessarily one of a fully functional amplifier. With Andrew Jute
McCoy, when he tells you that it's Tuesday, you automatically glance
at the calendar...........
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Stewart Pinkerton February 19th 06 02:52 PM

The Pinkerton Pathology, part 1: beyond anti-social tendency into disease
 
On 18 Feb 2006 16:02:12 -0800, "Andre Jute" wrote:


Sander deWaal wrote:
" said:

Mr. McCoy:


(snip)

One wonders who this Mr McCoy is that Useless Wiecky keeps stalking.
His imaginary friend, perhaps, because he doesn't have any real
friends?


Have you forgotten that your real name is Andrew Jute McCoy, not the
pretentious frenchified abbreviation that you now affect?

--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Stewart Pinkerton February 19th 06 03:01 PM

The Pinkerton Pathology, part 1: beyond anti-social tendency into disease
 
On 19 Feb 2006 05:56:21 -0800, "Andre Jute" wrote:


flipper wrote:
On 18 Feb 2006 17:46:45 -0800, "Andre Jute" wrote:


Eiron wrote:
The problem, Andre, is that you claim the picture has been around for over a year:

Here's a photo that has been sitting there since
around a fortnight before you thought of your wretched KISASS travesty,
say 15 months:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg
None so blind as those who don't want to see, eh, Pinko?

Unfortunately there is no reference to that image on the internet before last
Wednesday
so you can't prove to the cynical Mr. Pinkerton that it was there a year ago.
Even more unfortunately, anyone can download the jpeg, check its properties and
see when you took the photograph.

--
Eiron

There's something scary about stupidity made coherent - Tom Stoppard.

Thanks, Eiron. You've just won me another 800 Euro in bets that some
sockpuppet would be dumb enough to claim I took the photos of the amp
recently.


He's just going by the properties stored in the jpg by, it would seem,
a Cannon Digital IXUS 300 camera when it took the picture at,
according to the properties, 1/60 sec, F/2.7, flash mode. subject
distance 459 mm, and time stamped 2/15/2006 12:21PM.


Thanks, Flipper; I see now. The only thing that was changed was the
resolution of the pic. I wanted to replace the small, netfriendly pic
on the net with a bigger one of the same for the usual creeps to perve
over. The high-res original pic is on a different computer, so I loaded
it from that computer back into the camera, carried the camera to the
computer with the broadband connection, then pasted the highres version
over the low-res version on the net to preserve the name. So a bunch of
date data was confused by being carelessly transferred. Big deal. There
is no difference except resolution: it is the same photo.


And there *are* fairies at the bottom of your garden. If you're going
to lie, at least try to do it convincingly. The date stamp tells when
the photograph was taken, not when (if it ever was) the photo was
edited.

Furthermore,
that photo is clearly of this amp:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/K...0T68MZ417A.jpg
which is on the net on 7 December 2004 at this reference:
http://www.allaudios.org/detail-9461307.html
and here is a description of how I made the potato amp by removing the
two 300B:
http://www.dvd-software.info/forums/ftopic27097.html
which tells you clearly that the photograph the little loudmouths are
muckraking about was taken first, that is before 7 December 2004!


It tells you nothing of the sort.

All this information was in previous posts but the little suckerfish
you find on these conferences don't have any justification for wasting
oxygen except to put the worst possible interpretation on any tiny
little nit they can find.


Interesting that you have never before produced this 'evidence'...

This thread is about PinkoPsycho lying about the existence of that amp.
Read down a bit in the reference above and you will find Pinkerton
commenting on 23 April 2005 on the photograph of an amp that he has
claimed many times since was not built. Pinkerton knew he was lying
when he repeatedly told his lie. Stewart Pinkerton is convicted out of
his own mouth of being lying scum.


Bull****, and you know it, you pathetic psychopath.

Yet his sockpuppets entirely
overlook that unassailable provenance and instead try to convict me of
a mechanical glitch on an earlier photograph taken from a slightly
different angle. It's a smokescreen for the sickness of their hero, and
they know it.


I don't have sockpuppets, that's one of *your* specialties, because no
real person will swallow your constant bull****ting.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

[email protected] February 19th 06 03:12 PM

A public apology to Andre Jute.
 
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/K...0T68MZ417A.jpg

Right-click on the image.

Funny thing. The "properties" show that this image was both created and
modified on February 18, 2006. No images (so far) or links to images
with a date prior to the 18th of this month. Just words.

Mr. McCoy does pride himself on his words....

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


[email protected] February 19th 06 07:53 PM

A public apology to Andre Jute.
 

wrote:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/K...0T68MZ417A.jpg

Right-click on the image.

Funny thing. The "properties" show that this image was both created and
modified on February 18, 2006. No images (so far) or links to images
with a date prior to the 18th of this month. Just words.

Mr. McCoy does pride himself on his words....

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


If he's the genius he claims to be, I'm sure he'll figure out the
way to give any photograph the properties needed to
support any claims.
Perhaps a copy of the newspaper the day it was taken included
in the background of the next series of authentication photos.
How does it charge batteries from AC?
Neat schematic.
True genius.


Andre Jute February 19th 06 08:49 PM

A public apology to Andre Jute.
 

wrote:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/K...0T68MZ417A.jpg

Right-click on the image.

Funny thing. The "properties" show that this image was both created and
modified on February 18, 2006. No images (so far) or links to images
with a date prior to the 18th of this month. Just words.


Let's see. The image you say was created yesterday was referenced on
the net on 7 December 2004 at this reference:
http://www.allaudios.org/detail-9461307.html
and on RAT on 7 and 9 December 2004
http://groups.google.ie/group/rec.au...0 398798b8cfd
and here on 23 April 2005 Stewart Pinkerton himself comments on it:
http://www.dvd-software.info/forums/ftopic27097.html
Everyone on RAT has seen that image for years now (looks from the
copyright information that I made it in 2003...). Copies of it have
been sitting on Mick's site here
http://www.geocities.com/mixtel99/index.html
since 2003 or 2004 or whatever, too long ago to remember, and on John
Byrns's site here
http://users.rcn.com/jbyrns/MZamp.jpg
since 2003 or 2004 or whatever, too long ago to remember.

That picture, so widely distributed, showing the amp under
construction, complete and in use with horns, is all the proof required
that you, Useless Wiecky, are a liar and that Stewart Pinkerton is an
habitual liar.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


Useless Wiecky of Wyncote, PA, which must be very embarrassed to own up
to such a blind, deaf, hypocritical clown who is so easily exposed as a
liar.

Unsigned out of contempt for lying scum


Andre Jute February 19th 06 09:11 PM

A public apology to Andre Jute.
 

wrote:
wrote:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/K...0T68MZ417A.jpg

Right-click on the image.

Funny thing. The "properties" show that this image was both created and
modified on February 18, 2006. No images (so far) or links to images
with a date prior to the 18th of this month. Just words.

Mr. McCoy does pride himself on his words....

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


If he's the genius he claims to be,


I make no such claim. I don't have to. There are always scads of
wannable polemicists willing to make the claim on my behalf.

I'm sure he'll figure out the
way to give any photograph the properties needed to
support any claims.


If I wanted to cheat, I could have doctored the photographs. But, in
addition to all the other URL's already given, those photos have been
standing for years on independent netsites belonging to RATs of
excellent repute, here
http://www.geocities.com/mixtel99/index.html
and here
http://users.rcn.com/jbyrns/MZamp.jpg
These lies Useless Wiecky tells so transparently has nothing to do with
proof but with his envious hatred of me; he'll say anything at all in
his swingeing attempts to damage me; he doesn't care that everyone else
on these conferences can instantly see that he snips maliciously to
keep his lies alive in the face of the evidence, just like his hero,
Pinkerton.

Perhaps a copy of the newspaper the day it was taken included
in the background of the next series of authentication photos.


Oh, I think the that the scum who allege I didn't build an amp of which
the photographs are so widely distributed will now find the onus on
them to prove their dumb allegation... LOL. Watch me dance on this
undereducated trailer park trash.

How does it charge batteries from AC?


The batteries are in a DC circuit. They trickle charge from the current
flowing through the tube's resistance. It doesn't matter where in the
cathode circuit the batteries are placed, the current flows, though
there are arguments for putting the batteries in the grid leak position
ie parallel to the attenuator and very strong arguments for putting the
batteries in series with the grid. All these positions are however "in
the cathode circuit" and do not affect the charging.

Neat schematic.
True genius.


Don't make me blush, man. It's just an amp. Before I took up tube amps
for my hobby I designed and built cars. One certainly met a nicer class
of person among the Bentley drivers.

Just for the record, the scumbag Useless Wiecky is another who now owes
me an apology for his lies, among other instances for his lies about
the image
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/K...0T68MZ417A.jpg

Andre Jute
Visit Jute on Amps at http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/
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for the tube audio constructor"
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Andre Jute February 19th 06 10:07 PM

The Pinkerton Pathology, part 1: beyond anti-social tendency into disease
 

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
On 19 Feb 2006 05:56:21 -0800, "Andre Jute" wrote:

http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/t39kiss001.jpg
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/K...0T68MZ417A.jpg
See also
http://www.allaudios.org/detail-9461307.html date 7 December 2004
and here Pinkerton admits he saw the photograph on 25 April 2005:
http://www.dvd-software.info/forums/ftopic27097.html

*New* evidence to damn Pinkerton's lies is found in independent sites
where the photos have been standing for years:
http://www.geocities.com/mixtel99/index.html
and here
http://users.rcn.com/jbyrns/MZamp.jpg

Interesting that you have never before produced this 'evidence'...

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering


Since when is it my responsibility to stop you making a fool of
yourself for a year by your claim that an amp I built and published
photos of is unbuilt? You, Stewart Pinkerton, knew the amp was built,
(for instance when you commented on the photographs on 25 April 2005),
then repeatedly lied and lied and lied that it wasn't built. Now you
want to blame me, the victim of your vicious lies, for your vicious
lies? Only in the world of the psychopath is the victim to blame for
the violence the psycho practises on him.

An intelligent person would not have gotten himself into such a mess as
you did by lying out of spite for so long after you knew the truth. A
gentleman would have apologized a year ago. Only a psychopath would
have kept on lying for so long the amp was unbuilt when he knew he was
lying.. You do these things to yourself, PinkoStinko, by the
viciousness of your character.

Andre Jute
Everything comes to him who waits -- Gautama Budha


Stewart Pinkerton February 20th 06 03:32 PM

A public apology to Andre Jute.
 
On 19 Feb 2006 14:11:28 -0800, "Andre Jute" wrote:

wrote:
wrote:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/K...0T68MZ417A.jpg

Right-click on the image.

Funny thing. The "properties" show that this image was both created and
modified on February 18, 2006. No images (so far) or links to images
with a date prior to the 18th of this month. Just words.

Mr. McCoy does pride himself on his words....

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


If he's the genius he claims to be,


I make no such claim. I don't have to. There are always scads of
wannable polemicists willing to make the claim on my behalf.

I'm sure he'll figure out the
way to give any photograph the properties needed to
support any claims.


If I wanted to cheat, I could have doctored the photographs. But, in
addition to all the other URL's already given, those photos have been
standing for years on independent netsites belonging to RATs of
excellent repute, here
http://www.geocities.com/mixtel99/index.html
and here
http://users.rcn.com/jbyrns/MZamp.jpg


Isn't it fascinating that both those photographs show properties dated
20 February 2006? You're not even a good liar, let alone technically
competent.

--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Stewart Pinkerton February 20th 06 03:47 PM

Jute lies like a cheap rug
 
On 19 Feb 2006 13:49:11 -0800, "Andre Jute" wrote:


wrote:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/K...0T68MZ417A.jpg

Right-click on the image.

Funny thing. The "properties" show that this image was both created and
modified on February 18, 2006. No images (so far) or links to images
with a date prior to the 18th of this month. Just words.


Let's see. The image you say was created yesterday was referenced on
the net on 7 December 2004 at this reference:
http://www.allaudios.org/detail-9461307.html
and on RAT on 7 and 9 December 2004
http://groups.google.ie/group/rec.au...0 398798b8cfd
and here on 23 April 2005 Stewart Pinkerton himself comments on it:
http://www.dvd-software.info/forums/ftopic27097.html


Indeed yes - and that photograph is *not* of the KISS amp, but of the
'potato amp' which you yourself describe as 'development mule for the
KISS driver stage'. The KISS amp photograph is a very recent addition.

Everyone on RAT has seen that image for years now (looks from the
copyright information that I made it in 2003...). Copies of it have
been sitting on Mick's site here
http://www.geocities.com/mixtel99/index.html
since 2003 or 2004 or whatever, too long ago to remember, and on John
Byrns's site here
http://users.rcn.com/jbyrns/MZamp.jpg
since 2003 or 2004 or whatever, too long ago to remember.

That picture, so widely distributed, showing the amp under
construction, complete and in use with horns, is all the proof required
that you, Useless Wiecky, are a liar and that Stewart Pinkerton is an
habitual liar.


Nope, *none* of those is a photograph of a completed KISS amp. The
only existing photograph of a purportedly complete KISS is the one
which mysteriously appeared a few days ago, and which certainly
doesn't show any wiring.

Jute, your (in)credibility on RAT is such that not one single person
is supporting you here, and you are such a proven pathological liar
that if you posted that grass is green, we'd have to look out of the
window to check.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Andre Jute February 20th 06 04:05 PM

The Pinkerton Pathology, part 1: beyond anti-social tendency into disease
 

paul packer wrote:
On 18 Feb 2006 16:02:12 -0800, "Andre Jute" wrote:

Those boards
were so beautiful, I took my time soldering, making each joint a work
of beauty, and then couldn't resist writing a little article about the
pooftah flick of the wrist required for such beautiful soldering. The
usual scum went ballistic and, true to form, for the wrong reason:
because my soldering was *too* beautiful, not for my political
incorrectness.


What's the usual penalty for excessively beautiful soldering? It's not
an offence I've come across before.


Well may you ask, Paul. But I must admit I don't know. The "usual" scum
is so bizarre in their pathologies, God himself may not know what they
consider the usual penalty for excessively beautiful soldering to be. I
held up the lovely fat target of "pooftah" and they objected to the
beautiful soldering! I concluded that, besides being really bizarre,
the usual scum are also extraordinarily insensitive. But at least
extreme insensitivity fits the known profile of the *ugly engineer* and
wannabes and hangersons of the same class, indeed in the opinion of
many (including their unfortunate families) defines them. Even the
nimble Andy Evans would be hard put to explain such excessive hatred of
beautiful soldering.

Even when faced with such a gulf of ignorance of the human condition
(if they are indeed human, which could be debated), I find comfort in
the tiny insights gained by viewing the alien growths I study from many
angles. Of course, one must ration these insights. Too much
understanding, for instance of a malicious cancer on society like
Pinkerton, can cause uncontrollable weeping fits and seeping skin
rashes.

Take care.

Andre Jute


Stewart Pinkerton February 20th 06 04:32 PM

More Jute pretention
 
On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 11:01:05 GMT, (paul packer)
wrote:

On 18 Feb 2006 16:02:12 -0800, "Andre Jute" wrote:

Those boards
were so beautiful, I took my time soldering, making each joint a work
of beauty, and then couldn't resist writing a little article about the
pooftah flick of the wrist required for such beautiful soldering. The
usual scum went ballistic and, true to form, for the wrong reason:
because my soldering was *too* beautiful, not for my political
incorrectness.


What's the usual penalty for excessively beautiful soldering? It's not
an offence I've come across before.


And it's just about the *only* offence unlikely to have been committed
by Jute..................
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

John Byrns February 20th 06 06:14 PM

The Pinkerton Pathology, part 1: beyond anti-social tendency into disease
 
In article .com, "Andre
Jute" wrote:

Yeah, right. Poor old Useless Wiecky; doesn't have a tube amp,
certainly never built one -- but of course he knows better than I do
how it should be built. More macarooneys from the boonies; this poor
johnniecomelately appears completely unaware that he can buy back
copies of Glass Audio and other hobbyist magazines and perve over
piccies of other amps and test gear I've built. Rather reminds me of
the Magnequest Scum abusing me for a photo of my T113 I built on the
proto boards when they came from the licensee in Japan. Those boards
were so beautiful, I took my time soldering, making each joint a work
of beauty, and then couldn't resist writing a little article about the
pooftah flick of the wrist required for such beautiful soldering. The
usual scum went ballistic and, true to form, for the wrong reason:
because my soldering was *too* beautiful, not for my political
incorrectness.

Andre Jute



Hi Andre,

I don't think "Wiecky" is a builder, he is more into doing repairs, and he
certainly doesn't have a clue when it comes to design, so he is hardly
qualified to critique the design and construction of your prototype
amplifier. I suspect that if he were a builder his style would be the
"Craftsman" style as espoused by Henry Pasternack and most other
contemporary tube audiophiles who value form over function.

It;s too bad "Wiecky" wasn't around during the flame wars over my "Power
Amp Without Power Transformer" back in 1998, he could have lent some moral
support to the self-proclaimed "Danger Dave". It's going on 8 years since
I built that amplifier, and contrary to "Danger Dave's" prediction it
still hasn't burned the house to the ground, while being in daily use, nor
has it even suffered so much as a single component failure.


Regards,

John Byrns


Surf my web pages at, http://users.rcn.com/jbyrns/

John Byrns February 20th 06 06:16 PM

A public apology to Andre Jute.
 
In article , Stewart Pinkerton
wrote:

On 19 Feb 2006 14:11:28 -0800, "Andre Jute" wrote:

If I wanted to cheat, I could have doctored the photographs. But, in
addition to all the other URL's already given, those photos have been
standing for years on independent netsites belonging to RATs of
excellent repute, here
http://www.geocities.com/mixtel99/index.html
and here
http://users.rcn.com/jbyrns/MZamp.jpg


Isn't it fascinating that both those photographs show properties dated
20 February 2006? You're not even a good liar, let alone technically
competent.


With this post Stewart Pinkerton reveals himself as either extraordinarily
computer illiterate, or a lying scum bag. The "MZamp.jpg" picture has
been on my web pages since January 1, 2004. The "Page Info" command on my
old Netscape browser reveals the following information with respect to the
date the picture went up on my web page.

Location:http://users.rcn.com/jbyrns/MZamp.jpg
File MIME Type:image/jpeg
Last Modified:Thu, Jan 1, 2004 10:40:48 PM Local time
Last Modified:Fri, Jan 2, 2004 4:40:48 AM GMT

Andre was clearly up late that night because I had received the picture
from him at 9:13 PM CST that same night, which would be 3:13 AM GMT.

Unlike the photos on Andre's web pages I can't find any camera properties
on this photo, but obviously the picture was taken on or before January 1,
2004.

Regards,

John Byrns


Surf my web pages at, http://users.rcn.com/jbyrns/

Jon Yaeger February 20th 06 08:33 PM

The Pinkerton Pathology, part 1: beyond anti-social tendencyinto disease
 
in article , John Byrns
at
wrote on 2/20/06 2:14 PM:

In article .com, "Andre
Jute" wrote:

Yeah, right. Poor old Useless Wiecky; doesn't have a tube amp,
certainly never built one -- but of course he knows better than I do
how it should be built. More macarooneys from the boonies; this poor
johnniecomelately appears completely unaware that he can buy back
copies of Glass Audio and other hobbyist magazines and perve over
piccies of other amps and test gear I've built. Rather reminds me of
the Magnequest Scum abusing me for a photo of my T113 I built on the
proto boards when they came from the licensee in Japan. Those boards
were so beautiful, I took my time soldering, making each joint a work
of beauty, and then couldn't resist writing a little article about the
pooftah flick of the wrist required for such beautiful soldering. The
usual scum went ballistic and, true to form, for the wrong reason:
because my soldering was *too* beautiful, not for my political
incorrectness.

Andre Jute



Hi Andre,

I don't think "Wiecky" is a builder, he is more into doing repairs, and he
certainly doesn't have a clue when it comes to design, so he is hardly
qualified to critique the design and construction of your prototype
amplifier. I suspect that if he were a builder his style would be the
"Craftsman" style as espoused by Henry Pasternack and most other
contemporary tube audiophiles who value form over function.


*** I've never seen your work, John, but I can vouch for Henry's and it IS
first-rate. He does understand theory, and I don't agree that he puts form
above function.

Asmy grandmother said, anything worth doing is worth doing well. In that
weltanschauung, there is no place for chicken****.

Cheers,

Jon

It;s too bad "Wiecky" wasn't around during the flame wars over my "Power
Amp Without Power Transformer" back in 1998, he could have lent some moral
support to the self-proclaimed "Danger Dave". It's going on 8 years since
I built that amplifier, and contrary to "Danger Dave's" prediction it
still hasn't burned the house to the ground, while being in daily use, nor
has it even suffered so much as a single component failure.


Regards,

John Byrns


Surf my web pages at,
http://users.rcn.com/jbyrns/


[email protected] February 20th 06 09:25 PM

The Pinkerton Pathology, part 1: beyond anti-social tendency into disease
 
John:

As I remember, you isolated the input and the output from the mains
power via appropriate transformers. Why would I think this is
dangerous?

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


Arfa Daily February 21st 06 12:06 AM

A public apology to Andre Jute.
 

wrote in message
oups.com...
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/K...0T68MZ417A.jpg

Right-click on the image.

Funny thing. The "properties" show that this image was both created and
modified on February 18, 2006. No images (so far) or links to images
with a date prior to the 18th of this month. Just words.

Mr. McCoy does pride himself on his words....

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

Don't the "properties", derived as a right click off of any web based photo,
show the creation and mod dates to be today's date ?

Arfa



[email protected] February 21st 06 12:12 AM

A public apology to Andre Jute.
 
The "MZamp.jpg" picture has been on my web pages since January 1, 2004.

Please kindly show how one gets from your home page to the link noted.

Does look a lot like he lies, and you swear to it.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


[email protected] February 21st 06 01:22 AM

The Pinkerton Pathology, part 1: beyond anti-social tendency into disease
 
Whoops.... I forgot to note that your soldering also appeared to be
quite elegant as I remember, with no lethal voltages exposed above the
chassis. Not the mare's nest of miscellaneous higglety-pigglety that
Mr. McCoy displays in his Magnum Opus.

Just an observation.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


Pooh Bear February 21st 06 04:23 AM

Jute lies like a cheap rug
 


Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

Jute, .............you are such a proven pathological liar
that if you posted that grass is green, we'd have to look out of the
window to check.


And he'd reserve his right to change his position to the " grass is blue " too without as much as a blush.

Graham


John Byrns February 21st 06 04:57 AM

The Pinkerton Pathology, part 1: beyond anti-social tendency into disease
 
In article .com,
" wrote:

John:

As I remember, you isolated the input and the output from the mains
power via appropriate transformers. Why would I think this is
dangerous?


Well for one it might be dangerous if the transformers aren't as you say
"appropriate". That is my one misgiving, that the input transformer
really isn't designed for this job. But this was a junk box effort, which
was good enough satisfy me and to prove that "Danger Dave" didn't know
what he was talking about when he made his original statement that this
sort of amplifier couldn't be built without serious hum. The hum was
better than 80 dB below 1 Watt out, which is better than a good number of
commercial tube amplifiers with power transformers.

But that was not where I was going in my previous post, what I was
wondering about was if you were around "rec.audio.tubes" at the time of
the "Power Amplifier Without Power Transformer" flame wars? I hadn't
checked Google before posting and now that I have checked I am not sure
what to make of the results. It appears that you made a number of posts
to "rec.audio.tubes" in late 1997 and early 1998, but none after March
1998, so it is not clear if you weren't following the group at the time,
or if you were reading but not posting to the group?

Regards,

John Byrns


Surf my web pages at, http://users.rcn.com/jbyrns/

John Byrns February 21st 06 04:58 AM

The Pinkerton Pathology, part 1: beyond anti-social tendency into disease
 
In article .com,
" wrote:

Whoops.... I forgot to note that your soldering also appeared to be
quite elegant as I remember, with no lethal voltages exposed above the
chassis. Not the mare's nest of miscellaneous higglety-pigglety that
Mr. McCoy displays in his Magnum Opus.

Just an observation.


I wouldn't call the wiring a "mare's nest", and in any case we may be
jumping to invalid conclusions about "lethal voltages exposed above the
chassis." If the amplifier in question was intended purely as a
breadboard to be used to develop the circuits, then it is perfectly normal
and reasonable for there to be "lethal voltages exposed above the
chassis." But I suspect that the real situation here is somewhat
different. It looks to me like Andre has built the amplifier circuits on
a metal panel which ultimately forms one side, or the top, of an enclosure
which isolates the lethal voltages from contact with stray human or animal
body parts. I am only guessing at this, perhaps Andre could comment on my
speculation.


Regards,

John Byrns


Surf my web pages at, http://users.rcn.com/jbyrns/

John Byrns February 21st 06 05:00 AM

A public apology to Andre Jute.
 
In article .com,
" wrote:

The "MZamp.jpg" picture has been on my web pages since January 1, 2004.


Please kindly show how one gets from your home page to the link noted.

Does look a lot like he lies, and you swear to it.


I am not sure that I understand your question, there is no link to Andre's
pictures from my home page, you must know they are there and enter the
direct URL that Andre provided. If it would somehow help I could
temporarily modify the HTML for my home page to include references to
Andre's pictures, although it is not obvious to me how that would help
given that the URL's have been posted. I haven't done it, but the issue
might be somewhat settled by checking the Google archives of
"rec.audio.tubes" around January 1, 2004, as I suspect there are
references to these pictures and the URL's on my web pages where they are
located.


Regards,

John Byrns


Surf my web pages at, http://users.rcn.com/jbyrns/

Stewart Pinkerton February 21st 06 06:29 AM

A public apology to Andre Jute.
 
On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 00:00:50 -0600, (John Byrns) wrote:

In article .com,
" wrote:

The "MZamp.jpg" picture has been on my web pages since January 1, 2004.


Please kindly show how one gets from your home page to the link noted.

Does look a lot like he lies, and you swear to it.


I am not sure that I understand your question, there is no link to Andre's
pictures from my home page, you must know they are there and enter the
direct URL that Andre provided. If it would somehow help I could
temporarily modify the HTML for my home page to include references to
Andre's pictures, although it is not obvious to me how that would help
given that the URL's have been posted. I haven't done it, but the issue
might be somewhat settled by checking the Google archives of
"rec.audio.tubes" around January 1, 2004, as I suspect there are
references to these pictures and the URL's on my web pages where they are
located.


Fair enough, I'll take your word on *that* picture having been around
for a while, but please note that this is not the photograph in
question, since it is *not* a photo of a KISS amp, just of what Jute
himself describes as a 'development mule for the KISS driver stage'. I
already acknowledged the existence of *that* amplifier around April
last year. The KISS photo mysteriously appeared last week out of thin
air, and has never been seen before. It's also not clear that the KISS
portrayed is a working amplifier.

Basically, Jute tells so many obvious and ludicrous lies that his
credibility is totally shot. Having been called on KISS as vapourware
for more than a year, he *now* claims that it's been around for years?
I don't think so........
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

[email protected] February 21st 06 10:45 AM

The Pinkerton Pathology, part 1: beyond anti-social tendency into disease
 
Reading, but not posting.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


[email protected] February 21st 06 11:35 AM

The Pinkerton Pathology, part 1: beyond anti-social tendency into disease
 
But this was a junk box effort, which
was good enough satisfy me and to prove that "Danger Dave" didn't know
what he was talking about when he made his original statement that this
sort of amplifier couldn't be built without serious hum. The hum was
better than 80 dB below 1 Watt out, which is better than a good number of
commercial tube amplifiers with power transformers.


Well, Dayuumm... One of the things being a 'repair person' teaches is
that hum-free (very low hum) circuits without mains transformers and
without massive electronics are pretty common, pretty simple and can be
pretty good performers. And the (HFV)L6 series of tubes are
particularly suited to that use. Add such niceties as not using the
chassis as the common rail, input and output transformers and they are
about as safe as anything else out there of a similar general class,
certainly more-so than any AA5.

As to the input transformer being 'designed for the job', that is a
moving target. Imagine the most catastrophic cascade-failure on the
system that would _NOT_ blow the fuse, how much voltage & current that
would deliver to the secondary side of that transformer, and whether it
could take it or not without shorting to the case or to the primary
side. I have not examined your schematic in detail (nor do I know the
specifications to the transformers)... I seem to remember a hand-drawn
sketch. In any case, you are not intending to put this thing into
production, nor are you (apparently) holding it up as an avatar of
all-things-amplifier.

Keep in mind, John, that no one here is 'picking' on Mr. McCoy. Were he
to confine himself to 'being useful' as he seems to believe is the
purpose of other people's lives (at least), he would be mostly welcome
and mostly treated with the respect he deserves. However, he insists in
creating his useless little alliterative fantasies, mostly out of whole
cloth, and is then surprised when he is not so welcome and also treated
with exactly the respect he deserves. With due respect, his magnum-opus
looks like a cook-book recipe assembled with very limited skills under
marginal conditions and no real understanding of the expected results.
For all his pontificating, one would expect Mr. McCoy to be at a
minimum a better mechanic. See, there is something to be said for
'craft'. It makes understanding what one has done infinitely easier, it
sure does help prevent mistakes during the process, and it helps anyone
confronted with the work in the future. It falls back to the
carpenter's motto: Measure twice, cut once. There may never be quite
enough time to do it right... until one is faced with the need to do it
over. Platitudes, perhaps. But they got that way for clear reasons.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA



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