wrote in message
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It's an ill woodwind that nobody blows good":-)

Danny Kaye
Secret Life of Walter Mitty


Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


A cigar for that gentleman:-)

On 15 Mar 2006 12:11:23 -0800, in rec.audio.opinion you wrote:

I'm not being snide here - I'm trying to get to the why of why you'd
spend hundreds of dollars more on a somewhat expensive CD player if
you believe what you do about the abilities of CDs.

What do I think I believe Dave and what posts of mine gave you that
conclusion?

This pretty much covers your other questions as well:

"To explain slightly, a CD and decent CD player will give an exact
rendition of the material recorded on that CD".

I can't find this phrase from me or anyone else but you in a google
search. Can you provide a message ID? I don't recall saying this.

Sorry, it looks like it was Dave Plowman who said that. My bad.

You DID seem to support the idea though (as you do below).

The assumption that I take away from this is that you think CD players
are pretty much perfect in terms of representing the CD.

I guess I can agree with that... but if the CD isn't perfect...
perfect recreation of imperfection is kind of silly... don't you think?

Well, that's not something that's fixed by a CD player's
"imperfections", is it (at least for someone who believes that a CD
player should have no bearing on how the CD sounds because the goal is
to simply play back perfectly what's encoded on the disc and that
playback is pretty much fixed by the CD standard)?

In article ,
"Iain Churches" wrote:

wrote in message
ups.com...
It's an ill woodwind that nobody blows good":-)

Danny Kaye
Secret Life of Walter Mitty


Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


A cigar for that gentleman:-)

'xcept it's an oboe nobody blows good. :-)

Stephen

dave weil wrote:
On 15 Mar 2006 12:11:23 -0800, in rec.audio.opinion you wrote:

I'm not being snide here - I'm trying to get to the why of why you'd
spend hundreds of dollars more on a somewhat expensive CD player if
you believe what you do about the abilities of CDs.

What do I think I believe Dave and what posts of mine gave you that
conclusion?

This pretty much covers your other questions as well:

"To explain slightly, a CD and decent CD player will give an exact
rendition of the material recorded on that CD".

I can't find this phrase from me or anyone else but you in a google
search. Can you provide a message ID? I don't recall saying this.

Sorry, it looks like it was Dave Plowman who said that. My bad.

No problem... you owe us one KC review if they ever tour again .


You DID seem to support the idea though (as you do below).

The assumption that I take away from this is that you think CD players
are pretty much perfect in terms of representing the CD.

I guess I can agree with that... but if the CD isn't perfect...
perfect recreation of imperfection is kind of silly... don't you think?

Well, that's not something that's fixed by a CD player's
"imperfections",

Well... maybe. There are also theories that people generally
establish their preferences during their early adult years. So if one
grew up listening to recorded music with a certain type of imperfection
they have grown accustomed too... they might find removal of that
imperfection somewhat troubling without being able to exactly put their
finger on it.

For example I was listening to a new CD I got (American Football,
actually released in '99) that seems to be pretty well recorded...that
kept giving me the feeling to turn it down even at moderate levels. It
had a very upfront in my face soundstage that I never get from vinyl
and.. for a first listen.. it was a little unnerving. The lilting
trumpet on the last track was great though... reminded me a bit of KC
Islands which is why I bought it.

Anyway...this is way off track from my comment about masters which
should produce identical sounding CDs.

is it (at least for someone who believes that a CD
player should have no bearing on how the CD sounds because the goal is
to simply play back perfectly what's encoded on the disc and that
playback is pretty much fixed by the CD standard)?

I guess you need to take that up with Plowman. As I've said many
times... I'm not interested in perfect accuracy.. I'm interested in
what pleases me.

ScottW

'xcept it's an oboe nobody blows good. :-)

Was attributing the comment, not the instrument.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:02:10 +0200, "Iain Churches"
wrote:


wrote in message
oups.com...
It's an ill woodwind that nobody blows good":-)

Danny Kaye
Secret Life of Walter Mitty


Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


A cigar for that gentleman:-)

And how appropriate that such a reference should appear in a Jute
thread..................
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

And how appropriate that such a reference should appear in a Jute thread.

'Cept for Walter Mitty turned out to be a hero, got the girl, defied
his mother, and lived happily ever after.

Mr. McCoy is and has done none of the above.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

In article ,
"Iain Churches" wrote:

"MINe 109" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Iain Churches" wrote:

wrote in message
ups.com...
It's an ill woodwind that nobody blows good":-)

Danny Kaye
Secret Life of Walter Mitty


Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


A cigar for that gentleman:-)

'xcept it's an oboe nobody blows good. :-)

Stephen

Quite correct! Waiter, another cigar!

I couldn't let the opportunity
pass, and was sure that Jenn would accept a little
artistic licence, particularly as the two instruments
are members of the same double-reed family.

She probably appreciates a good racket.

Stephen

In article .com,
" wrote:

'xcept it's an oboe nobody blows good. :-)

Was attributing the comment, not the instrument.

No worries.

Stephen

On 16 Mar 2006 03:54:32 -0800, " wrote:

And how appropriate that such a reference should appear in a Jute thread.

'Cept for Walter Mitty turned out to be a hero, got the girl, defied
his mother, and lived happily ever after.

Mr. McCoy is and has done none of the above.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

He hasn't defied his mother? You have proof?

Maybe he just got confused and deified her instead.