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WHY STEWART PINKERTON IS UNRELIABLE: 2. THE STATISTICS OF MALICE



 
 
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Old March 3rd 06, 04:15 PM posted to rec.audio.tubes,uk.rec.audio,rec.audio.opinion
Sander deWaal
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Default WHY STEWART PINKERTON IS UNRELIABLE: 2. THE STATISTICS OF MALICE

" said:


But against your contention is, and to take your example of the 78s,
what if that same advocate were to state that "ONLY" 78s were fit to
represent music, and all non-believers in 78s were apostates or worse.
And then further, state that only his interpretation of the sound of
78s had any validity.



Mr. Jute never said that SET amps are the only way to go, he himself
prefers a PP EL34 in triode amplifier, if I'm correctly informed.


Were that same person to do as you say, and state "I prefer 78s to all
other media because..... " and then state "But I am writing for myself
and would not presume to dictate to anyone else." I don't think that
anyone here (well, maybe excepting Bret) would have raised a peep.



If one adds the line "In my opinion", or "just speaking for myself" ,
one is almost certain to be attacked for saying that by Arny Krueger.


Oh well, damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Let the fools in this world argue and bitch each other to death, I'll
continue to listen to my music on various amps, both tube and MOSFET.
And, even better, I'll continue to build them myself.

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Old March 3rd 06, 10:47 PM posted to rec.audio.tubes,uk.rec.audio,rec.audio.opinion
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"Sander deWaal" wrote in message
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" said:


But against your contention is, and to take your example of the 78s,
what if that same advocate were to state that "ONLY" 78s were fit to
represent music, and all non-believers in 78s were apostates or worse.
And then further, state that only his interpretation of the sound of
78s had any validity.



Mr. Jute never said that SET amps are the only way to go, he himself
prefers a PP EL34 in triode amplifier, if I'm correctly informed.


Were that same person to do as you say, and state "I prefer 78s to all
other media because..... " and then state "But I am writing for myself
and would not presume to dictate to anyone else." I don't think that
anyone here (well, maybe excepting Bret) would have raised a peep.



If one adds the line "In my opinion", or "just speaking for myself" ,
one is almost certain to be attacked for saying that by Arny Krueger.


Oh well, damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Actually, that's the best way to keep Arny from bothering with you at all.
It's when people say things like SET's are great sounding amps. Or CD
players have gigantic differences in sound quality, that will get his
attention.

I think that you know as well as anybody, that Stewart, while not exactly
shy about expressing his opinions, (as if that were strange around here) is
in fact a well qualified EE.

Mr. McCoy is probably as medicore writer, but has been taken apart by other
qualified people on every group he posts on, simply because he, like Brett
Ludwig, makes sweeping statements that are frequently wrong, and needs
another chair just for his ego.

The diffference is that Ludwig actually seems to do stuff and McCoy just
says he does.

Let the fools in this world argue and bitch each other to death, I'll
continue to listen to my music on various amps, both tube and MOSFET.
And, even better, I'll continue to build them myself.


At least we're reasonably sure that you can. With Mr. McCoy, not so much.


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Old March 3rd 06, 11:06 PM posted to rec.audio.tubes,uk.rec.audio,rec.audio.opinion
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Mickey McMickey said:

It's when people say things like SET's are great sounding amps.
Or CD players have gigantic differences in sound quality, that
will get [the Krooborg's] attention.


The sad thing, Mickey, is that you're entirely serious. You really and truly
believe that for somebody to like the sound of certain amps (the ones you
hate), or to prefer one CD player over another, is "wrong".

If Noah were loading up his ark today, he'd look at you and Arnii and say,
"No, boys, you can stay here and drown. We don't need any walking, talking
turds."





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Old March 4th 06, 08:32 PM posted to rec.audio.tubes,uk.rec.audio,rec.audio.opinion
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"George M. Middius" cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net wrote
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Mickey McMickey said:

It's when people say things like SET's are great sounding amps.
Or CD players have gigantic differences in sound quality, that
will get [the Krooborg's] attention.


The sad thing, Mickey, is that you're entirely serious. You really and
truly
believe that for somebody to like the sound of certain amps (the ones you
hate), or to prefer one CD player over another, is "wrong".

Wrong is a moral concept, there is nothing "wrong" with preferring the sound
of distortion, it just doesn't make good sense for them to claim it's more
"musical."


If Noah were loading up his ark today, he'd look at you and Arnii and say,
"No, boys, you can stay here and drown. We don't need any walking, talking
turds."


And then he'd flush your cloven footed ****ty self.


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Old March 4th 06, 08:35 PM posted to rec.audio.tubes,uk.rec.audio,rec.audio.opinion
Sander deWaal
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Default WHY STEWART PINKERTON IS UNRELIABLE: 2. THE STATISTICS OF MALICE

said:

If one adds the line "In my opinion", or "just speaking for myself" ,
one is almost certain to be attacked for saying that by Arny Krueger.


Oh well, damned if you do, damned if you don't.



Actually, that's the best way to keep Arny from bothering with you at all.
It's when people say things like SET's are great sounding amps. Or CD
players have gigantic differences in sound quality, that will get his
attention.



See:
http://groups.google.nl/group/rec.au...5cb7e03aa27c90

Quote:
__________________________________________________ ____________

Me:

However, those are just my observations.



Arny:

Which you'll repeat early and often in the hope that they will
convince...
__________________________________________________ ____________

End Quote



I think that you know as well as anybody, that Stewart, while not exactly
shy about expressing his opinions, (as if that were strange around here) is
in fact a well qualified EE.




Quote:
__________________________________________________ ____________

Me:

Pinkerton gets not nearly as much attacked as Arny, and
to be honest, I think that Pinkerton is a lot better
versed in electronics on a component level.



Arny:

I don't think you're qualified to judge either of us, Sander.


Me:

That, and he has a kind of humour that I can appreciate.



Arny:

You obviously tolerate racist comments well.
__________________________________________________ ____________

End Quote



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- Never argue with idiots, they drag you down their level and beat you with experience. -
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Old March 6th 06, 07:24 AM posted to rec.audio.tubes,uk.rec.audio,rec.audio.opinion
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"Sander deWaal" wrote in message
...
said:

If one adds the line "In my opinion", or "just speaking for myself" ,
one is almost certain to be attacked for saying that by Arny Krueger.


Oh well, damned if you do, damned if you don't.



Actually, that's the best way to keep Arny from bothering with you at all.
It's when people say things like SET's are great sounding amps. Or CD
players have gigantic differences in sound quality, that will get his
attention.



See:
http://groups.google.nl/group/rec.au...5cb7e03aa27c90

Quote:
__________________________________________________ ____________

Me:

However, those are just my observations.



Arny:

Which you'll repeat early and often in the hope that they will
convince...
__________________________________________________ ____________

End Quote



I think that you know as well as anybody, that Stewart, while not exactly
shy about expressing his opinions, (as if that were strange around here)
is
in fact a well qualified EE.




Quote:
__________________________________________________ ____________

Me:

Pinkerton gets not nearly as much attacked as Arny, and
to be honest, I think that Pinkerton is a lot better
versed in electronics on a component level.



Arny:

I don't think you're qualified to judge either of us, Sander.


Me:

That, and he has a kind of humour that I can appreciate.



Arny:

You obviously tolerate racist comments well.
__________________________________________________ ____________

End Quote



I was thinking of people without quite so much history as the 2 of you have,
plus you were not discussing audio in that post.


 




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