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Practical advice on speaker cables please ?



 
 
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Old March 8th 06, 10:37 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Glenn Richards
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Default Practical advice on speaker cables please ?

Jo wrote:

I just need an idea of cross-sectional area and where I can get some
suitable cable. I'm not convinced by the talk of OFC and so on.
Multistranded copper of sufficient thickness is fine by me. Suggestions
please ?


Gale XL-105, 69p/metre at Richer Sounds. Or if you need lots, you can
get the same stuff at CPC for about £20 for a 100m roll (different name
on it, same cable as far as I can tell).

Nice and flexible, doesn't sound bad either.

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Old March 8th 06, 12:48 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Jo
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Default Practical advice on speaker cables please ?

In . uk,
Glenn Richards typed:
Jo wrote:

I just need an idea of cross-sectional area and where I can get some
suitable cable. I'm not convinced by the talk of OFC and so on.
Multistranded copper of sufficient thickness is fine by me.
Suggestions please ?


Gale XL-105, 69p/metre at Richer Sounds. Or if you need lots, you can
get the same stuff at CPC for about £20 for a 100m roll (different
name on it, same cable as far as I can tell).

Nice and flexible, doesn't sound bad either.


I googled on Gale XL-105 and one of the web sites said this:
------------------
However, it does have a rather raw quality with some programme material,
and there is a sense akin to stasis at times.
Music simply goes through the motions, but somehow nothing much seems to
happen, and imagery stays firmly locked into the speaker enclosures. It also
sounds rather grainy at times.
---------------------
Which was rather typical of most websites I visited, even Gales themselves.
Significantly, among all of the lurid prose few of the websites mention the
most important parameter, ohms/meter. And even if this is somewhat high on a
long wiring run, how could anybody possibly hear the "raw quality" described
?

I'm wondering if I should set up a business selling gold plated mains cables
with 13A plugs to the more gullible members of the hifi fraternity for
£99.99 a throw? Obviously, I would need to do a course on creative writing
first :-)

Jo








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Old March 8th 06, 02:01 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Serge Auckland
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Default Practical advice on speaker cables please ?


"Jo" wrote in message
...
In . uk,
Glenn Richards typed:
Jo wrote:

I just need an idea of cross-sectional area and where I can get some
suitable cable. I'm not convinced by the talk of OFC and so on.
Multistranded copper of sufficient thickness is fine by me.
Suggestions please ?


Gale XL-105, 69p/metre at Richer Sounds. Or if you need lots, you can
get the same stuff at CPC for about £20 for a 100m roll (different
name on it, same cable as far as I can tell).

Nice and flexible, doesn't sound bad either.


I googled on Gale XL-105 and one of the web sites said this:
------------------
However, it does have a rather raw quality with some programme material,
and there is a sense akin to stasis at times.
Music simply goes through the motions, but somehow nothing much seems to
happen, and imagery stays firmly locked into the speaker enclosures. It
also sounds rather grainy at times.
---------------------
Which was rather typical of most websites I visited, even Gales
themselves. Significantly, among all of the lurid prose few of the
websites mention the most important parameter, ohms/meter. And even if
this is somewhat high on a long wiring run, how could anybody possibly
hear the "raw quality" described ?

I'm wondering if I should set up a business selling gold plated mains
cables with 13A plugs to the more gullible members of the hifi fraternity
for £99.99 a throw? Obviously, I would need to do a course on creative
writing first :-)

Jo

Incatech already did that!

S.


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Old March 8th 06, 03:09 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Jo
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Serge Auckland typed:

I'm wondering if I should set up a business selling gold plated mains
cables with 13A plugs to the more gullible members of the hifi
fraternity for £99.99 a throw? Obviously, I would need to do a
course on creative writing first :-)

Jo

Incatech already did that!

How about this then:
"Merlin powerblock....4-way power extension block...fitted with noise
absorbing system...elimination of stray emissions and prevent the degrading
of your hi-fi sound."

A snip at £145 each, P18, Wilmslow Audio catalogue.

Bummer, there goes my get rich quick plan.

Unless somebody wants to buy some extension power blocks from me, complete
with surge suppression and noise filtering. I can do them for £99.99 and
this isn't a wind-up, I really can offer these items.

Jo



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Old March 8th 06, 05:11 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Nick Gorham
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Default Practical advice on speaker cables please ?

Jo wrote:
In ,
Serge Auckland typed:

I'm wondering if I should set up a business selling gold plated mains
cables with 13A plugs to the more gullible members of the hifi
fraternity for £99.99 a throw? Obviously, I would need to do a
course on creative writing first :-)

Jo


Incatech already did that!


How about this then:
"Merlin powerblock....4-way power extension block...fitted with noise
absorbing system...elimination of stray emissions and prevent the degrading
of your hi-fi sound."

A snip at £145 each, P18, Wilmslow Audio catalogue.

Bummer, there goes my get rich quick plan.

Unless somebody wants to buy some extension power blocks from me, complete
with surge suppression and noise filtering. I can do them for £99.99 and
this isn't a wind-up, I really can offer these items.


You are setting your sights far too low

2 Metre Valhalla Power Cable £1749.95 each

http://hiddenwires.co.uk/resourcesne...040927-05.html

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Old March 8th 06, 05:29 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Jo
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Default Practical advice on speaker cables please ?

In ,
Nick Gorham typed:

Unless somebody wants to buy some extension power blocks from me,
complete with surge suppression and noise filtering. I can do them
for £99.99 and this isn't a wind-up, I really can offer these items.


You are setting your sights far too low

2 Metre Valhalla Power Cable £1749.95 each

http://hiddenwires.co.uk/resourcesne...040927-05.html

There's some lovely phrases on that website:

"..featuring sophisticated circuitry for dealing with mains noise and
voltage spikes without limiting dynamic headroom."

"Traditional solutions would simply filter the mains supply to the products
attached, by using simple, but dynamically constricting filtration."

"...utilising Shiva, Vishnu, or Valhalla, prioritising the input cable
first; and by attaching Nordost Pulsar Points to the M6 threaded inserts in
the base of the unit to control any unwanted resonances the Thor offers an
unparalleled solution to advanced power distribution."

"Quantum QRT Resonance Technology is also used; this is a proprietary
material treatment system, which by the use of cutting edge technologies
minimises environmental electrical resonance noise."

Wonderful stuff :-)

Jo











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Old March 8th 06, 09:48 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Stewart Pinkerton
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Default Practical advice on speaker cables please ?

On Wed, 8 Mar 2006 15:01:00 -0000, "Serge Auckland"
wrote:


"Jo" wrote in message
...
In . uk,
Glenn Richards typed:
Jo wrote:

I just need an idea of cross-sectional area and where I can get some
suitable cable. I'm not convinced by the talk of OFC and so on.
Multistranded copper of sufficient thickness is fine by me.
Suggestions please ?

Gale XL-105, 69p/metre at Richer Sounds. Or if you need lots, you can
get the same stuff at CPC for about £20 for a 100m roll (different
name on it, same cable as far as I can tell).

Nice and flexible, doesn't sound bad either.


I googled on Gale XL-105 and one of the web sites said this:
------------------
However, it does have a rather raw quality with some programme material,
and there is a sense akin to stasis at times.
Music simply goes through the motions, but somehow nothing much seems to
happen, and imagery stays firmly locked into the speaker enclosures. It
also sounds rather grainy at times.
---------------------
Which was rather typical of most websites I visited, even Gales
themselves. Significantly, among all of the lurid prose few of the
websites mention the most important parameter, ohms/meter. And even if
this is somewhat high on a long wiring run, how could anybody possibly
hear the "raw quality" described ?

I'm wondering if I should set up a business selling gold plated mains
cables with 13A plugs to the more gullible members of the hifi fraternity
for £99.99 a throw? Obviously, I would need to do a course on creative
writing first :-)

Jo

Incatech already did that!


So did Russ Andrews!

Heck, I remember him when he was a simple sales droid in Hi-Fi Corner
in Edinburgh. Who eleveated him to guru status?
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Old March 8th 06, 07:28 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Jan Larsen
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Default Practical advice on speaker cables please ?

Jo wrote:

I'm wondering if I should set up a business selling gold plated mains cables
with 13A plugs to the more gullible members of the hifi fraternity for
£99.99 a throw? Obviously, I would need to do a course on creative writing
first :-)

Jo

I worked in a Hifi Store during a minor setback in my normal path of
employment, the kind of weapons grade BS I heard and I'm afraid to admit
dispensed to the customers myself at times in that place would leave
even the most creative of writers smoking at the starting line I tells
ye. I've done blind testing with £1000+ cable sets and standard 2.5mm^2
flexible cable and never once found an individual who could tell the
difference, but when they could see the exclusively wound cables in
their silk sheaths it was a completely different matter.

On the other hand I've had to dye my hair pink after a bet and a blind
test involving some foam like pads that went between a pair of Grand
Coup`e's (how do you make that apostrophe thingy on a UK keyboard?) and
sand filled Soundstyle stands.

So I guess the pendulum swings both ways and all that business..


// J
 




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